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06/04/2003 AIRPARK ADVISORY BOARD MEETING CITY OF CLEARWATER June 4, 2003 Present: Brenda Harris Nixon Chair J.B. Johnson Board Member Bruce Miller Board Member Absent: Bob Lunt Vice-Chair Donald “Scott” Armstrong Board Member Also Present: William Morris Marine & Aviation Department Director – departed 3:29 p.m. Brenda Moses Board Reporter The Vice-Chair called meeting to order at 2:30 p.m. at City Hall. To provide continuity for research, items are in agenda order although not necessarily discussed in that order. ITEM #2 – Approval of Minutes from May 7, 2003 Member Miller moved to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of May 7, 2003, as motion submitted in written summation to each board member. The was duly seconded and carried unanimously. ITEM #3 – Tenant & Lease Report from FBO (Fixed Base Operator) FBO David King reported the tie downs and hangars are the same as last month. Mr. King said resident Ellen Hess along with another resident developed and distributed fliers informing their neighbors that the AAB (Airpark Advisory Board) has been discussing the use of jets and turbo jets at the Clearwater Airpark. Mr. King said he met with Marine &Aviation Department Director Bill Morris regarding a 20-year lease. In response to a question, Mr. Morris said it would take approximately three to four months to finalize the lease between the FBO and the City and present it to the City Commission for approval. He said the lease would be similar to the one between the City golf course and the City. The lease will provide that instead of borrowing City funds, the FBO would invest in the Airpark property and he would specify what his investment would be in accordance with the new airpark Master Plan. Mr. Morris said a consultant would be required in order to estimate the costs of the new FBO building. He said hopes are the City would have received all necessary SWFWMD (Southwest Florida Water Management District) permits relating to the Master Plan prior to finalizing the lease with the FBO. Mr. Morris said part of the Master Plan could not be fulfilled without impacting the golf course lease, specifically the driving range. Mr. King said he did not know if it was possible to approach the golf course management regarding revenue sharing possibilities. In response to a question, Mr. Morris said the airpark needs a new FBO building. Although the hangars bring the revenue in for the airpark, the new building would be an asset to the overall appearance and amenities at the airpark. Once the SWFWMD permits for the proposed hangars are obtained, construction can begin on the FBO building. In response to a question, Mr. Morris said the FDOT (Florida Airpark Advisory 2003-0604 1 06/04/03 Department of Transportation) would provide grant a 50/50 match of the cost for revenue- generating facilities and an 80/20 match for office space for management staff. The City would not have to invest tax dollars, as Mr. King has agreed to provide the City’s share of the funds to construct the FBO building, and in return the City would forgive his rent on the building until the funds borrowed are reimbursed. The City would be responsible for construction of the building. In response to a question, Mr. Morris said according to PBS&J (Post, Buckley, Schuh, & Jernigan), hopes are to submit the final application for the corporate hangars to SWFWMD sometime in July. It was remarked that some airparks use private money to build hangars, lease them to the City, and the FBO manages the airpark and receives a percentage of the revenue. In response to a question, Mr. Morris said he was not in favor of privately funded hangars on City property, as it would remove some of the City’s operational control. It also could affect how the hangars are used, which could result in inappropriate activity. It was remarked that consideration also is being given to including a restaurant in the FBO building. It was remarked that hopes are the lease between the FBO and the City is more favorable for the City than was the golf course lease. One resident said he was glad to hear that the FBO was willing to provide financing to expedite the construction of hangars. In response to a question, Mr. King said the issues regarding the new fuel farm have been resolved. Currently, fueling requires two employees one hour to fuel a truck. The new system has a feeding system underneath the pavement with automatic shutoff valves and other safety features, and fueling the Airpark storage tanks would take only seven minutes. In response to a question, Mr. King said there are 90 people on the corporate aircraft hangar list. Mr. Morris said the airpark currently has 165 airplane spaces. He said he could not estimate the total number of hangars to be built until the mix of aircraft for them is determined. On a separate issue, Mr. King reviewed the various types of jet engines, which ones use old technology, which are louder than others, etc. He said most insurance companies require a 5,000 foot runway for any aircraft, therefore as the Clearwater Airpark’s runway are shorter, the number of aircraft using the airpark would be limited. In response to a question, Mr. King said he would bring the airpark complaint log to the next meeting. A nearby business owner and tenant in the airpark said his Cheyenne jet is one of the safest turboprops on the market. He said the Cheyenne is powerful and can accelerate rapidly. He said the odds of losing an engine are virtually non-existent, however even the loss of an engine would not affect the aircraft’s maneuverability and safety. Assistant Director of Engineering Glenn Bahnick said Caladesi Construction has won the bid for construction of the new 9,600 square foot corporate hangar buildings, which he estimated could accommodate six Cheyenne twin turbo prop aircraft. He said some of the environmental issues have been addressed. John Atanasio, CAP, (Civil Air Patrol), gave Mr. Morris two leases signed by the CAP to be signed by the City. He requested the City obtain his input prior to construction of the new FBO building. He said if a disaster hits this area, the Clearwater Airpark would probably be the only airport in the area above water. It was remarked that two years ago, the County indicated they look to the Coast Guard for help regarding disaster preparedness. In response to a question, Mr. Atanasio said the CAP has explored the possibility of obtaining funds for Airpark Advisory 2003-0604 2 06/04/03 emergency communications related equipment through the Department of Defense, but it appears highly unlikely. He said once the CAP is in its new offices, they will be tied to all 48 contiguous states. It was remarked that a public meeting space in addition to classroom space would be useful in the new FBO building. Mr. Morris said when the community gets behind the airpark, the FDOT more readily responds to requests regarding funding of office space, etc. at the airpark. ITEM #4 – Other Business A citizen requested that consideration be given to changing the appropriate state statute to permit the FBO to allow selected pre-approved activities outside the normal airpark hours. He said the central time zone runs two to three miles off Clearwater beach. He requested patrons of the airpark be allowed to land at night at the airpark. He suggested the City develop stringent requirements that allow this practice to be done only by the fixed base operators, not transient operators. It was remarked that the airpark’s hours of operation were thoroughly considered. The City would most probably not reconsider approving landings at the airpark after 9:00 p.m. It was suggested that a demonstration of some of the various types of aircraft, such as the Cheyenne turboprop, be given to nearby residents before this topic is considered for discussion. Mr. King said as take-offs and landings are prohibited at the Clearwater Airpark after 9:00 p.m., he plans to offer corporate clients who use the St. Petersburg/Clearwater Airport a courtesy limousine service free of charge. Mr. King said he is not in favor of changing the airpark’s 9:00 p.m. curfew for aircraft, as consideration must be given to the neighbors. One resident said he was against the proposal to permit selected, pre-approved activities at the airpark after 9:00 p.m. He also expressed concern that only select persons would be granted that privilege. ITEM #5 – Agenda for next meeting on July 2, 2003 Member Johnson said he would not be able to attend the July 2, 2003, meeting. Discussion ensued and it was suggested skipping the July meeting. Member Johnson moved the July 2, 2003, Airpark Advisory Board meeting be motioncarried cancelled. The was duly seconded and unanimously. The next meeting is scheduled for August 6, 2003, at 2:30 p.m. Item #6 – Adjournment The meeting adjourned at 3:40 p.m. Airpark Advisory 2003-0604 3 06/04/03 . . , . , ' " ' , , '. , ' " AA. " ' ' Airport, Authority" ' , . MINUTES' " 0., 'Il' . ' , , " , , , . , . , Date> ~L~/03 " " . c ", . , :1 , , , " , " . . '. < . ',' c'. '.'. . , ' . . I.' ':~' " , . . oj , , , , " ' . , " , " , , , , . , .. . ,. , " > '. .' , , , " , ' , ,. ." . ' . 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The motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously. lTEM #3 - Tenant & Lease Report from FBD (Fixed Base Operator) FBD David King reported the tie downs and hangars are the same as last month. Mr. King said resident Ellen Hess along with another resident developed and distributed fliers informing their neighbors that the MB (Airpark Advisory Board) has been discussing the use of jets and turbo jets at the Clearwater Airpark. Mr. King said he met with Marine &Aviation Department Director Bill Morris regarding a 20-year lease. In response to a question. Mr. Morris said it would take approximately three to four months to finalize the lease between the FBD and the City and present it to the City' Commission for approval. He said the lease would be similar to the one between the City golf course and the City. The lease will provide that instead of borrowing City funds, the FBD would invest in the Airpark property and he would specify what his investment would be in accordance with the new airpark Master Plan. Mr. Morris said a consultant would be required in order to , estimate the costs of the new FBO building. He said hopes are the City would have received all necessary SWFWMD (Southwest Florida Water Management District) permits relating to the Master Plan prior to finalizing the lease with the FBD. Mr. Morris said part of the Master Plan could not be fulfilled witho'ut impacting the golf course lease, specifically the driving range. ,Mr. King said he did not know if it was possible to approach the golf course management regarding revenue sharing possibilities. In response to a question. Mr. Morris said the airpark needs a new FBO building. Although the hangars bring the revenue in for the airpark. the new building would be an asset to the overall appearance and amenities at the airpark. Once the SWFWMD permits for the proposed hangars are obtained, construction can begin on the FBD building. In response to a question, Mr. Morris said the FOOT (Florida Department of T'ransportation) would provide grant a 50/50 match of the cost for revenue-generating facilities and an 80/20 match for Airpark Advisory 2003-0604 1 , 06/04/03 . . .' office space for management staff. The City would not have to invest tax dollars, as Mr. King has agreed to provide the City's share of the funds to construct the FBD building, and in return the City would forgive his rent on the building until the funds borrowed are reimbursed. The City would be responsible for construction of the building. In response to a question. Mr. Morris said according to PBS&J (Post, Buckley, Schuh, & Jernigan), hopes are to submit the final application for the corporate hangars to SWFWMD sometime in July. It was remarked that some airparks use private money to build hangars, lease them to the City, and the FBD 'manages the airpark and receives a percentage of the revenue. In response to a question, Mr. Morris said he was not in favor of privately funded hangars on City property, as it would remove some of the City's operational control. It also could affect how the hangars are used, which could result in inappropriate activity. It was remarked that consideration also is being given to including a restaurant in the FBO building. It was remarked that hopes are the lease between the FBO and the City is more favorable for the City than was the golf course lease. One resident said he was glad to hear that the FBG was willing to provide financing to expedite the construction of hangars. In response to a question, Mr. King said the issues regarding the new fuel farm have been resolved. CurrentlYI fueling requires two employees one hour to fuel a truck. The new system has a.-feeding system underneath the pavement with automatic shutoff valves and other safety features, and fueling the Airpark storage tanks would take only seven minutes. . In response to a question, Mr. King said there are 90 people on the corporate aircraft hangar list. Mr. Morris said the airpark currently has 165 airplane spaces. He said he could not estimate the total number of hangars to be buiit until the mix of aircraft for them is determined. On a separate issue, Mr. King reviewed the various types of jet engines, which ones use old technology, which are louder than others, etc. He said most insurance companies require a 5,000 foot runway for any aircraft, therefore as the Clearwater Airpark's runway are shorter, the number of aircraft using the airpark would be limited. In response to a question, Mr. King said he would bring the airpark complaint log to the next meeting. A nearby business owner and tenant in the airpark said his Cheyenne jet is one of the safest turboprops on the market. He said the Cheyenne is powerful and can accelerate rapidly. He said the odds of losing an engine are virtually non.existent, however even the loss of an engine would not affect the aircraft's maneuverability and safety, Assistant Director of Engineering Glenn Bahnick said Caladesi Construction has won the bid for construction of the new 9,600 square foot corporate hangar buildings, which he estimated could accommodate six Cheyenne twin turbo prop aircraft. He said some of the environmental issues have been addressed. John Atanasio, CAP, (Civil Air Patrol), gave Mr. Morris two leases signed by the CAP to be signed by the City. He requested the City obtain his input prior to construction of the new 'FBO building. He said if a 'disaster hits this area, the Clearwater Airpark would probably be the only airport in the area above water. It was remarked that two years ago, the County indicated they look to the Coast Guard for help regarding disaster preparedness. In response to a question, Mr. Atanasio said the CAP has explored the possibility of obtaining funds for emergency communications related equipment through the Department of Defense, but it appears highly unlikely, He said once the CAP is in its new offices, they will be tied to all 48 contiguous states. Airpark, Advisory 2003.0604 2 06/04/03 . . . , . It was remarked that a public meeting space in addition to classroom space would be useful in the new FBO building. Mr. Morris said when the com,munity gets behind the airpark, the FOOT more readily responds to requests regarding funding of office space, etc. at the airpark, ' ITEM #4 - Other Business , A citizen requested that consideration be given to changing ,the appropriate state statute to permit the FBO to allow selected pre-approved activities outside the normal airpark hours. He said the central time zone runs two to three miles off Clearwater beach. He requested patrons of the airpark be allowed to land at night at the airpark. He suggested the City develop stringent requirements that allow this practice to be done only by the fixed base operators, not transient operators. ' It was remarked that the airpark's hours of operation were thoroughly considered. The City would most probably not reconsider approving landings at the airpark after 9:00 p.m. It was suggested that a demonstration of some of the various types of aircraft, such as the Cheyenne turboprop, be given to nearby residents before this topic'is considered for discussion. Mr. King said as take-offs and landings are prohibited at the Clearwater Airpark after 9:00 p.m., he plans to offer corporate clients who use the 51. Petersburg/Clearwater Airport a courtesy limousine service free of charge. Mr. King said he is not in favor of changing the airpark's 9:00 p.m. curfew for aircraft. as consideration must be given to the neighbors. , 'Ofle resident said he was against the proposal to permit selected. pre-approved , activities at the airpark after 9:00 p.m. He also expressed concern that only select persons would be granted that privilege. ITEM #5"": Aqenda for next meetinQ on Julv 2. 2003 Member Johnson said he would not be able to attend the July 2, 2003, meeting. Discussion ensued and it was suggested skipping the July meeting. Member Johnson moved the July 2.2003, Airpark Advisory Board meeting be cancelled. The motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously. The next meeting is scheduled for August 5.2003, at 2:30 p.m. Item #5 - Adiournment The meeting adjourned at 3:40 p.m. Attest: ~J1jUr.dt{ /) I tJ Xc} Board Reporter Airpark Advisory 2003-0604 3 05/04/03