11/04/2014 BUILDING/FLOOD BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS MEETING MINUTES
CITY OF CLEARWATER
November 4, 2014
Present: Chair Pankaj Shah, Vice-Chair Gary R. Richter, Board Member Steven L. Klar, Board
Member Earle Cooper, Board Member Julie A. Daniels, Alternate Board Member Gale Pollack
Also Present: Attorney for the Board - Jay Daigneault, Laura Mahony -Assistant City Attorney,
Michael Delk - Planning & Development Director, Dana Root - Plans Examiner, Patricia O. Sullivan
- Board Reporter
The Chair called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m. at City Hall.
4—Approval of Minutes
4.1. Approve the minutes of the December 3, 2013 Building/Flood Board of Adjustment and
Appeals meeting as submitted in written summation.
Member Cooper moved to approve Item 4.1. The motion was duly seconded and carried
unanimously. Alternate Member Pollack did not vote.
5—Citizens to be Heard re Items Not on the Agenda: None.
6 —Continued Requests: None
7 — New Request: Appeal to the Building Official's Decision
7.1. Case: BAA2014-09001, 1637 Pine Place
Legal Description: Windsor Woods Lot 40
Appellant Name: David Marshall
Basis for Request: was given prior approval to build a tree house without a permit. During
construction, was issued a Stop Work Order and the tree house was deemed a deck with a
structure.
See Exhibit: Staff Report BAA2014-09001 2014-11-04
Appellant David Marshall said in response to his 2013 queries, building department staff Dana
Root and Scott Kurleman and a former code compliance employee told him the Community
Development Code did not address tree houses and a permit was not required. He said after he
began building the tree house, he was issued a Stop Work Order. He said Mr. Root then said he
had not known the type of structure that was planned. Mr. Marshall said when he requested
guidelines and asked what modifications would allow the tree house to remain without a permit,
staff provided him a copy of the Florida Building Code and a list of architects and engineers. He
said a tree house was a small house for children built in the branches of a tree. He said the City did
not have a committee similar to the County to determine if a tree house would be allowed. He said
in response to his submitted photos, County staff said the one problem with the tree house was
that it had footers. He said the footers could be removed.
Mr. Marshall said on August 20, 2014, Planning & Development Director Michael Delk told him staff
had given him bad advice. He said he presented Mr. Delk with 3 books on tree houses written by
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engineers and architects and requested guidelines and specifications for a tree house. He said in
his August 14, 2014 email, Building Official Kevin Garriott said the tree house was an unpermitted
deck. He said he contacted almost every building official in the county and was advised that tree
houses were allowed under playground guidelines. He said Mo Madani with the Florida Building
Commission said tree houses and forts were governed by playground rules and exempt from
permitting. He said he spoke with the City's building department 18 times and no one would
provide him dimension limitations or specifications for a tree house. He said he tried to do his due
diligence and even installed hurricane straps to make the structure safe.
Plans Examiner Dana Root presented property photographs taken on June 27, 2014 of 1637 Pine
Place which showed a structure in the back yard on an elevated deck with a tree going through it
and an enclosed structure on top. He said based on the 2010 Florida Building Code, Mr. Garriott
determined the structure needed a permit before construction began. In response to Mr. Garriott's
emails, Pinellas County Building Official Goldman said the structure would require building plans
and permits after zoning approval. St. Petersburg Building Official Dunn said a permit was required
for a playhouse larger than 100 square-feet. Tampa Construction Services Manager Barrios said a
permit would be required. Clearwater determined the structure could be permitted after stamped
engineer drawings were submitted.
Mr. Delk said playground guidelines did not apply to one- or two-story accessory structures. When
Mr. Marshall inquired about a tree house, staff responded to a proposal for a normal, temporary
tree house in a tree, not a major structure with significant decking and stairs. Staff would have
responded differently had Mr. Marshall provided drawings or indicated he planned to build an 8-
foot elevated deck with an enclosed structure; the City required a permit for a 2-foot high deck in a
back yard. In response to a question, Mr. Delk said he did not know how the structure could be
modified to be a tree house. Neither the City nor State Building Code defined "tree house." He said
the building was an accessory structure. Staff advised Mr. Marshall what was necessary for him to
keep the structure.
In response to questions, Mr. Marshall said he had not submitted drawings or photos to the City;
he would have submitted a drawing had the City requested one. He said based on staff's
responses to his inquiries, he thought his tree house was allowed. He said according to his
referenced books, tree houses could be built in one or numerous trees. He said his photos showed
tree houses had many different designs. He said he could not find an engineer to sign off on the
structure because the tree continued to grow. He said the tree house was bolted to the tree and
supported by concrete pillars. He said the tree house was not in the setbacks; the enclosed area
was 7 feet by 8 feet, the deck was15 feet by 15 feet, and the roofline height was 15 feet. He said
windows were not impact resistant and the Stop Work Order was issued before a door was
installed. He said the entire structure was much smaller than Mr. Garriott's estimates in his emails
to area building officials.
Attorney for the Board Jay Daigneault said the board needed to determine if the City's Building
Code required the structure to be permitted.
In response to Mr. Marshall's questions, Mr. Delk said there were multiple ways to construct a tree
house. The City did not have guidelines for tree houses; he did not provide Mr. Marshall with tree
house dimensions. He said St. Petersburg's Code requirements differ from Clearwater's. The City
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did not regulate the size of playgrounds. He said the subject structure was an accessory structure,
not a playground tree house. The City did not have a committee tasked with reviewing tree houses.
Mr. Marshall said he had tried to be cooperative. He said the City did not provide him guidelines,
dimensions, or guidance re modifications necessary for the tree house to not require a permit. He
said his tree house was attached to a tree and stabilized. He said he was advised that engineer
drawings would cost $2,000 which was too expensive for a children's playground.
Discussion ensued with comments that tree houses were small, built within a tree, and not
permanent structures. It was felt the structure would have to be disassembled to be a tree house. It
was stated if the building was next to a house it would be a structure; placing it next to a tree did
not make it a tree house. It was noted the large structure was attached to a tree rather than being
part of it and the tree was not an integral part of the structure; two pillars could replace the tree. It
was commented that Florida Building Code Section 1.02.2.6 referenced swings and playground
equipment and the subject structure was not playground equipment.
It was commented that Board members were licensed engineers, architects, and contractors who
recognized Mr. Marshall's plight. Understanding was expressed regarding communication
problems with the City, but it was stated that the building department was not responsible for
providing information. It was noted that Mr. Marshall had nothing in writing from the City indicating
the structure he built would not require a permit. It was indicated that builders often faced conflicts
with building staff and having a permit was not a final approval.
It was stated the Building Code was designed to regulate safety and concerns were expressed the
structure appeared to have life safety problems that could pose dangers to children beneath it or to
nearby homes during strong winds and that the structure had a staircase which must meet Code. It
was stated an engineer who signed off on the structure's design would be liable if the structure
failed and an injury occurred. It was suggested an engineer might sign off on the structure if it was
properly fortified.
With regard to the Appeal from the Building Official's decision or interpretation in Case BAA2014-
09001, Member Cooper moved to find action on the request to be within the Board's authority and
to deny the appeal and affirm the Building Official's decision or interpretation based on evidence
and testimony presented in the application, the Staff Report and at today's hearing, and
specifically the following: the building is a structure, not a tree house and hereby issue the
Conclusions of Law that the criteria set forth in Code of Ordinances Section 47.035(1) are not
met. The motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously.
8 — Director /Building Official Comments: None.
9 - Adjourn
The meeting adjourned at 3:03 p.m.
Chair
Attest:/ Building /Flood Board of Adjustment & Appeals
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Meeting Date:
Case Number:
Agenda Item:
Owner /Appellant:
Address:
REOUEST
CITY OF CLEARWATER
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
STAFF REPORT
November 4, 2014
BAA2014 -09001
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Mr. David Marshall
1637 Pine Place, Clearwater, Florida
Request the Board to declare the wooden structure in rear yard of this address to be allowed
without permits, inspections, and engineering design as required by the Florida Building Code
and City Ordinance.
fAC KGROI JND /ANALYSIS
• The structure was constructed in the rear yard without a permit
• ' The structure requires a permit and to be designed by a licensed professional
• The structure is approximately 250 square feet in size; approximately 20' tall
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. • Structure requires a permit and inspections to meet the Florida Building Code.
2. Surrounding communities also require permits to meet the Florida Building Code — City
of Tampa, City of St. Petersburg, and Pinellas County
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. A permit is required to construct this structure.
2. Structure is unlawful and must be removed if permit is not obtained.
RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD
Confirm the Building Official's interpretation requiring construction permit, professional design,
and inspections for this structure.
Meeting Date: November 4, 2014
Case Number: BAA2014 -09001
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