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basketball court citing the "loss of their quality of life" due to its existence. Over the last few years the basketball
court has been used for student's recess activities and church and community pickup games. The church has
always been gracious in allowing our neighborhood children to play ball in their open fields, ride skateboards in
their parking lots, and shoot basketball on their hoops. With the center point of the basketball court being 200 feet
from the nearest neighbor's property, we feel that the court is an addition to the quality of life in our neighborhood
and not a loss. As a homeowner living next to the church, I feel Countryside Christian Center should NOT be
required to remove their basketball court.
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One of our neighbors is requesting that the City of Clearwater force Countryside Christian Center to remove their
basketball court citing the "loss of their quality of life" due to its existence. Over the last few years the basketball
court has been used for student's recess activities and church and community pickup games. The church has
always been gracious in allowing our neighborhood children to play ball in their open fields, ride skateboards in
their parking lots, and shoot basketball on their hoops. With the center point of the basketball court being 200 feet
from the nearest neighbor's property, we feel that the court is an addition to the quality oflife in our neighborhood
and not a loss. As a homeowner living next to the church, I feel Countryside Christian Center should NOT be
required to remove their basketball court.
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Dear Countryside Christian Academy Parents,
By signing this petition, you are in agreement to keep the basketball court. You are
acknowledging the importance of the sports court; and protesting the removal of the
court.
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Ms Mascaro
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1850 N. McMullen Booth Road · Clearwater, FL 33759 · (727)799-1618 · FAX (727) 725-1787
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John A. Lloyd, Senior Pastor
1850 N. McMullen Booth Road · Clearwater, FL 33759 · (727)799-1618 · FAX (727) 725-1787
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Countryside Christian Center Basketball Courts and Related Lighting
To whom it may concern:
We live directly behind the basketball court at 1807 Oak Forest Drive South and most
definitely object to its location and the associated lighting. We can put up with the
screaming, megaphone blaring, whistle blowing and lack of privacy during the day
but come the nighttime we say enough is enough! I think you would too if you were in
our shoes.
At night the constant bouncing of the balls, running, shouting and gathering of all sorts of
people right outside our family room and bedroom windows is more than we could stand.
While you probably would like it to be used only by your students, there is no control
over who uses it for basketball or just a gathering place for who knows what. There
have been two instances where we found someone walking in our backyard late at night.
It is a meeting place for illegal activity, scoping out the houses in the neighborhood and
the lighting that is part of it shines directly in our bedroom through our vertical blinds
after 11 :00 PM when we are trying to sleep. You are truIv takinl! advantal!e ofvour
neil!hbors.
We do not object to the school having a basketball court per se but we object to its
location. Move it indoors like other schools or put it outside in the front of the buildings
Along McMullen Booth Road where it wouldn't infringe on people's privacy.
Gmail- Fwd: RE: Letter of Notification FLS2009-01002
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Fwd: RE: Letter of Notification FLS2009-01002
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To: "johnstalter@gmail.com" <johnstalter@gmail.com>
Dear Sirs:
Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM
I originally sent the attached emailletter in response to your letter of notification referenced. It was my
impression that the church was requesting a permit to add an additional, noisy, basketball facility. Since then
I have learned that the existing one was built WITHOUT the proper approvals and permits and they are now
asking for retroactive approval.
I am vehemently and unaquivocably against this approval action. Had I been informed that the current
basketball facility would have been built as close to residences as it has, I would have asked that it be located
further away. With approximately 20 acres originally at the churches disposal, more consideration should
have been given to locating this facility further away. For instance, why couldn't the basketball court be
located in front, closer to McMullen Booth Road? Oh, I forget, that would not have been aesthetically
pleasing for viewing the church from the road, would it? So, looking at all those cars parked out there
everyday of the week is more aesthetically pleasing?? Give me a break.
In fact, since the church or their contruction representative failed to follow proper permitting procedures, they
should be required to move the basketball facility to the front and put parking in its place. That seems to be a
reasonable compromise to all affected parties.
Sincerely,
David R. White
3017 St. Croix Drive
Clearwater, FL 33759
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RE: Notice of filing of an application for flexible standard development approval at 1850 McMullen
Booth Rd (FLS2009-01002)
Dear Mr. Jackson,
As a surrounding property owner within 500 feet of the aforereferenced property, I am taking this
opportunity to express my OPPOSITION to granting any approval for the addition of a basketball court
and two (2) 35 foot light poles on this property. I have no opposition to adding the 29 grass off-street
parking spaces.
My opposition to the basketball court and light poles is based on the following facts gained from the
experience of living next to this property. This property already contains several basketball courts
located in close proximity to the single family residences to the north, south and to a lesser extent to the
west. These courts are already in use late into the night several nights a week and screams and yells of
the players easily heard several blocks away. The bright lights on the current poles are a constant
annoyance for anyone whose home backs up onto this property. Adding more courts and lights even
closer to these residences is an even further unjust encroachment on those properties and owners who
remember when this property was a farm and McMullen Booth Road was a two lane country road.
We allowed the church, the parking and the courts to be built. We then allowed construction of the new
gigantic cathedral building. And we contend with the huge volume of traffic on Sundays and
Wednesday evenings. But enough is enough.
David White
3017 S1. Croix Drive
Clearwater, FL 33759
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Mr. John and Mrs. Karen Stalter
3016 Saint Croix Drive
Clearwater, FL 33759
February 28,2009
Dear Mr. Jackson,
My husband John and I are writing to you in response to your letter of 1 week ago.
We have several arguments as to why we feel that the proposal of basketball courts and
installation of additional parking encroaching onto a residential backyard are opposed.
We are the homeowners and have lived here for 16 years. When I came to S1. Croix
Drive there was a chicken wire fence in the yard and my pool could have been easily
accessed by children, so I placed a privacy fence then for safety, having to JUSTIFY the
removal of one oak tree by a certified arboris1.
1. Countryside Christian Center was not opposed by us to expand into the new
addition, we researched the information that was provided on their website and
felt it was in the best interest of their congregation to have such needed areas, as
the new nursery, meeting rooms, and small chapel for funeral services, verses
having the large sanctuary. These areas at that time were to be serviced on the
McMullen Booth road entrance. They knew ahead of time that there would not be
enough parking and do not need them backed up to our fence.
2. I did not receive notification that there were going to be PUBLICL Y accessed
basketball courts next to my home. It has bright lights shining through our back
windows and into our yard. It is impossible to sit outside and watch our small fire
pit and talk. I saw them repaving the lot and had no idea that this was in the
planning. Even after the installation of the basketball post we felt it was all right
for the courts if it was for the school children for gym class.
3. Since the inception ofthe grade school now at Countryside Christian there is
constant noise in the yard during recess and gym class hours. The children scream
at the top of their lungs and never are told not to. In fact the coaches and teachers
blow whistles and use a megaphone to YELL over them. I know it's supposed to
be a "fun time" for the children, but seriously we can't even sit on our deck and
eat lunch. I have to put a headphones on and can still hear them.
4. We feel that a church should be just that, a church a place to worship the Lord, to
attend scripture study. Not a place to hang out in the parking lot, or let kids run
screaming. We have seen several fights on the basketball court by neighborhood
kids that do not belong to the church. The one basketball court they have now has
no supervision after the school lets out, and has no way to regulate usage. We do
not wish to have teenagers hanging out behind our house on the court till all
hours, or competitive games with shouting late into the evening. There are several
well-lit city parks and even the Long Center has indoor courts available should
they like to form a league.
5. Should you need proof of the noise level we can easily provide a recording.
Please keep us apprised of this situation.
Thank you,
Mr. and Mrs. John Stalter
727-725-0137 (h)
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PROBLEMS CREATED BY
COUNTRYSIDE CHRISTIAN CENTER
BASKETBALL COURT
Kathy & Fred Cutting
1801 Oak Forest Drive South
Clearwater FI 33759
Home Since 1972
Statement of Problem(s)
· There is no way to control the noise or
illegal activity created by the Basketball
court.
- Near constant yelling and playing until about
midnight
- Illegal drug sales where police can not get
· The area of their property in question is
bordered by the backyards of 21 homes
averaging 1000ft off McMullen-Booth.
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Professional Opinion
· The location of the basketball court
creates noise and auxiliary problems that
can not be controlled.
- Personal note: HPYMCA resolved midnight
basketball problem with six foot chain link
fence encompassing their entire property
· Further more these problems were created
long after these homes were established
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· CCC moved into neighborhood with a
Special Exception to RDP-5 zoning per
Pinellas County Comprehensive Land Use
Plan in 1988
· In 1989, without a permit, CCC put up an
additional nine forty foot light poles with 32
- 400 watt high intensity halogen
luminaries hanging more than thirty five
feet above the ground of our backyards.
History of Problems Created by
CCC Building without Permits con't
· Six poles removed and replaced with five
twelve foot poles with 70 watt sodium
lights
- 70 watt lights removed and replaced with 200
watt high intensity halogens within a year
· Ignored Pinellas County Board of
Adjustment decision on lighting for twenty
years. (letter provided)
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I30.A.~D OF COUNTY COlVllVfISSIONE~9
PINELLAS COUNTY, FLORIDA
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315 COURT STREET
CLEARWATER. FLORIDA 34616
COMMISSlO~EAS
BRuce TYNDALL. CHAIRMAN
CHARLES E. RAINEY . VICE CHAIRMAN
JOHN CHESNUT. JR.
GEORGE GREER
BARBARA SHEEN TODD
June 12. 1989
Countryside Cbristian Center Inc.
1850 IIcllulien Booth load
Clearwater. fL 33515
Ie: Board of Adjusment Case No. BA-18-9-87
Dear Applicant:
Please be addsed tbat by action of tbe Pi1lellas County Board of Adjustae"nt on
June 7. 1989. )'Our r8CJuest to perait a:. clarification of tbe site plaD to
~it li&btin& of tbe parkin& area for tbe prewiously approwed cburcb vas
approwed witb tbe follovin& conditioDs:
1. Li&htin& be li.ited to tbe 15 (9 edstiD&and 6 additional as sbown OD
plan) bir.b int~Dsity 18llp poles .aDd 5 low lewel. low inteBsity 70 watt
sodiaa 18llps at tbe locations as sbown on tbe plans. .
2. Adjus~1It of all lir.bts. as currently focused witb leDses Dot wisible
frOll neir.bborin& properties. not be cban&ed so as to cause direct
illaainati01ls onto neir.bborin& properties.
3. All parkinr. lot lir.hts. except security lir.htin& near the buildin&s. are
to be used only durinr. churcb functions (lir.hts. except for security
near tbe buildin&s. shall be turned off after bours).
4. These conditions sball bec~ conditions of BA-18-9-87 and anI' dewiation
frOll tbeta sball be cause for rewocation of the special exception.
Tbe Applicant is berebynotified that all rir.bts and priwile&es r.ranted berein
shall bec~ woid if and in the ewent said applicant fails to c~nce the
project cont..,lated berein withtp one (1) 7ear fr_ the date of this
decision. An extensioD of ODe (1) year -I' be r.raDted by the Board for r.o~
cause shown. in writin!.. b7 the applicant. An extension reguest. _st be
filed approd_telJ' ODe (1) ~ntb prior to the expiration date to enable the
rec)1lest to be heard bJ' the Board.
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DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING
PlNELLAS COUNTY IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EM~LOYER
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All yariances or special exceptions tranted by the,~oard of Adjustment shall
be deemed to automatically expire in the eyent a structure or use of land
which is the subject of the yariance has been yacated or abandoDed for a
period of 90 consecutiye days.
Please be adyised that any approyal or conditional approval does not eliminate
the necessity of compliance with other local. State or Federal laws and
retulations.
If you have any questions. please don't hesitate to contact this office at
462-3403.
Sincerely.
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cc: Patrick Ra&uire. Esq.
History of Problems Created by
CCC Building without Permits con't
· Built basketball court without permits
- ( it worked before let us try it again)
- Of nine originally installed only six removed
· In 2007 reinstalled two of the six - forty
foot poles removed in 1989. ( no permit)
Summary
· eee administration has a history of violating the
rules - and with some success
· The city professionals and lighting professionals
had told this leader(s) that they do not need to
violate their neighbors quality of life to attain
their objectives.
· We hope this Board will agree with the city
professionals who's job it is to protect the
citizens from other professionals who are being
paid to minimize the consideration of the
neighbors.
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