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Also Present: Bill Morris
Catherine Yellin
Brenda Moses
Marine & Aviation Department Director
Senior Staff Assistant
Board Reporter
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MARINE ADVISORY BOARD
CITY OF CLEARWATER
May 14, 2003
Present:
Tom Horne
Hank Epstein
Paul J. Kelley
Edward O'Brien
Denis Sparks
Chair
Board Member
Board Member
Board Member
Board Member
Absent:
Nick Matsis
Dick Safirstein
Board Member
Board Member
The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m. at the Marina.
To provide continuity for research, items are in agenda order although not
necessarily discussed in that order. '
ITEM #2 - Minutes Approval from April 9. 2003
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Member Epstein moved to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of April 9t
2003, as submitted in writt~n summation to each board member. The motion was duly
seconded and carried unanimously.,
ITEM #3 - Other Business
Docks
The Chair said the possibility of a moratorium on new docks has prompted a
flood of new dock applications in the City and County. The federal government has
decided to let the State handle negotiations with various state, countY, and tocal entities
concerning dock permits. Dock applications will be more c1os~ly scrutinized-in the
future, particularly in areas where manatees frequent.
Belle Harbour
,The Chair said it appears that the Belle Harbor project is going to be approved
and construction would begin in the near future. '
Briahtwater and Bavside Drive
The Chair said ~edevelopment on the north side of Brightwater and Bayside Drive
near Frenchy's is moving forward. '
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Downtown development
Marine & Aviation Department Director Bill Morris said today at 9:30 a.m. he is
meeting with City engineers regarding downtown development. He said he received a
phone call from Dr. Matthews of Saint Pete College who indicated his support of the
development process providing the proper mitigation procedures regarding dredging and
seagrass are addressed. '
DredQina Eauipment
Mr. Morris updated the MAB (Marine Advisory Board) regarding his efforts to
obtain dredging equipment. He reviewed the various types of dredging machines and
how they function. He said he also is researching the cost for pipes and a fusion
machine. He said after evaluating various types of dredging machines, he has
determined that a Rotomite machine is the best value and best suited for the City's
needs. He said once a dredge is purchased it could be used to dredge the marina for'
boat slips. Dredged material could be placed on barges and pumped onto Sand Key,
and spoil islands. In response to a question. Mr. Morris said although there is a potential
, for additional dredging activities for other cities, he does not anticipate that being a major
function of the dredging equipment due to seawall and piling issues. The equipment
would primarily be used for City needs. He said he does not anticipate a need for
additional personnel to operate the dredging equipment. He is compiling information to
present to the City Commission for their approval of the purchase of the dredging
equipment.
. Dock Reauest - Island Way Grill
Mr. Morris said he is meeting with the City Manager and Mr. Ted Bair of Quality
Boats regarding the Island Way Grill docks. Thirty (30) years ago, the City issued a
revocable permit to Ross Yachts, owned by Courtney Ross at the time, for seven
mooring buoys in the basin between the Marine Aquarium, the mangroves, Island Way
Grill, and Ross Yachts. ' Over the years, Mr. Ross basically let the moorings disappear
with respect to the buoys' physical presence. Subsequently, Quality Boats bought Ross
Yachts and has replaced all the permitted buoys. Courtney Ross continues to
particip'ate in the management of Ross Yachts, however the operation is undergoing a
resurgence and new construction. The owner of the Island Way Grill has gone to great
lengths ,to endear himself to the community to lessen the opposition to the docks that
existed when the vacant restaurant was negotiating with Shooters for ownership of the
property and installation of docks. The issue regarding Mr. Bair's complaint is that some
of the buoys must be removed or relocated because of safety reasons before docks
could be built at Island Way Grill. . Mr. Bair is concerned about losing those buoys, as he .
uses them for overflow when' moving boats from lifts and on his site.
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Mr. Morris said he has suggested to Mr. Bair to move the mooring buoys further
out in the channel where it is wider, less congested, and wOlJld eliminate potential safety
hazards. It was remarked that Mr. Morris' suggestion makes sense. as it would
eliminate safety concerns and encourage public use of the docks,to access the
businesses in the area. A comment was made that Mr. Ross is no longer running
Quality Boats, but is in sales., Mr. Bair oversees operations. Mr. Morris said the City
owns the bottom land at Island Way Grill waterfront on the waterside up to the seawall
and, prefers public docks in those types of locations. Mr. Morris said should the Island
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Way Grill dock request be approved by the Commission. it would entail approximately
one year to permit and construct the docks.
Member Epstein moved to recommend to the City Commission that the City
revoke the mooring buoys in the basin betyveen the Marine Aquarium, the mangroves,
Island Way Grill, and Ross Yachts and provide a substitute alternative that has been laid
out and presented by Bill Morris. The motion was duly seconded and carried
unanimously.
One member proposed that the MAB consider rules and regulations with respect
to a no powerboat zone for safety reasons in the area of the Sailing Center. Small
sailboats are greatly affected by large powerboats. He felt as a result of a recent
incident near the Sailing Center, safety issues must be addressed in the area.
The member also proposed implementation of a part"time Clearwater Marine
Patrol Unit on weekends from May 1 through mid"September to present a visible law
enforcement presence. He said the marine police are extremely busy due to overloaded
boats, large wakes, speeding, etc. He said there are new parasail businesses that
appear to be conducting business in vessels that could not withstand strong wind gusts.
He felt consideration should be given to vessel size and construction if such parameters
are not already in place.
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It was remarked that Clearwater Police Chief Sid Klein has indicated his
department does not have the funds or personnel to support a maritime patrol officer at
this time. Mr. Morris said for the last two months, the City fire departmenfs marine unit
has been conducting training at the Sailing Center including water rescue, diving, etc. It
was remarked that the.police de'partment has a specially trained SWAT team to address
land-based issues, however they do not have personnel specially trained in maritime
issues and therefore would be ineffective on an auxiliary boat. In response to a
question, Mr. Morris said Belleair Bluffs and Tampa have weekend maritime persons.
He was unsure if they are police officers.
One member said in addition to the cost of the cruise, he was billed for an armed
Marshal that was present on the ship fQr terrorism and safety purposes. It was remarked
that as Clearwater is a thrivingt vibrant communitYt consideration should be given to
increased taxes ,or surcharges on services, especially for safety needs.
It was suggested that the MAB invite one of the City Commissioners to attend
MAB meetings: The Chair said he would invite Commissioner Hibbard to meetings.
Public Comments
One person suggested the police department deputize a U.S. Power Squadron
'or U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary member to enforce boat safety regulations as a
community service. It was remarked that there could be liability issues involved.
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The Director of the Sailing Center said an incident involving a powerboat's
propeller coming within two feet of a handicapped sailor's 'sailboat was just one example
of the safety problems at the Sailing Center. The powerboat was carrying a parasailer
and did not realize his proximity to the sailboat. It was suggested that witnesses to
those types of incidents record the registration numbers of boaters that violate safety
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and other boating regulations, and report those incidents to the Marine & Aviation
Director and the media in an effort to deter such activity. It was remarked that although
everyone has the right to use the waterways. boaters are responsible to abide by the
rules and regulations in all waterways. It was remarked that some boats are speeding
so quickly that it is often difficult to read their registration numbers to report them. A ,
comment was made that some boaters believe that they actually create a lesser wake at
higher speeds than when driving at a lower rate of speed. It was remarked that there is
regulation that addresses boaters who drive their vessels without consideration to other
boaters and are operating recklessly. Mr. Morris said when informed of alleged boating
. violations, he writes a letter regarding the incident to the boat owner, sends them a copy
of the state boating rules and regulations, includes a definition of a minimum wake zone,
and requests thatthey refrain from future violations. It was remarked that boaters
violating minimum wake zones also adversely affect properties along the shoreline.
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It was remarked that the boating industry is pressuring the federai government
not to restrict boaters. It was remarked that there is law enforcement stationed at the no
wake zone at the mouth of the Sand Key bridge, however officers frequently miss
violations that occur. It was suggested that the Sailing Center Director and other
personnel contact the pertinent agencies such as the Sheriffs marine patrol unit, the
Fish and Wildlife Commission, Coast Guard Auxiliary, etc. regarding their concerns and
incidents that occur in their areas. It would be helpful to those enforcement agencies to ,
know the locations, days. and times of day tha't frequent violations occur and boater
registration numbers whenever possible.
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In response to a question, Mr. Morris said in order to post "caution" or other signs
in the area between the Sailing Center and Belleair, a request !"flust be made to the City
and State for approval. He sai~ that process would involve approximately six months.
In addition to that process, there would be potential legal ramifications, as signs posted
in t,hose areas without lights would pose safety issues. '
ITEM #4 - Aoenda for next meetino on June 11. 2003
This topic was not discuss~d.
ITEM #5 - Adiournmen~
T~e meeting adjourned at 9:05 a.m.
Chair
Marine Advisory Board
Attest:
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Board Reporter
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