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Present:
Commissioner Ed Hart
Commissioner Hoyt Hamilton
Bruce Littler
Arthur Lupien
Dan Moran
Roger Schulman
Carl Wagenfohr
Bob Bickerstaffe
Commissioner Bill Jonson
Facilitator/Non Voting Chair
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Committee Member - arrived 4:09 p.m.
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Alternate - arrived 4:23 p.m.
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Lucile Casey
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Patricia O. Sullivan
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The Chair called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m. at City Hall.
To provide continuity for research, items are in agenda order although not
necessarily discussed in that order.
ITEM # 1 - Aooroval of Minutes
Member Littler moved to approve the minutes of the regular meetings of March 19,
and March 28, 2001, as submitted in written summation to each board member. The
motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously.
ITEM #2 . Old Business
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The Chair said the committee's draft report had been submitted to the City
Commission. The Mayor has requested the final report be submitted by the end of June
2001. The executive summary needs to be updated and alternatives addressed. He
recommended the committee meet weekly until the project is complete. It was stated
committee members are not engineering axperts. It was felt committee recommended
alternatives need staff review and approval.
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It was felt the roundabout works better to move traffic than the previous traffic
design. It was noted all intersections can be dangerous and risky. Enlarging the
roundabout would cause traffic to move faster and endanger pedestrians. It was felt the
Committee's recommendations should be positive.
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Public Works Administrator Mahshid ArBsteh reviewed drawings of Barry Crown's
suggested minor revisions to improve Roundabout safety. She reviewed the Camp Dresser
McKee, Inc. opinion of 'probable costs: 1) $61,537 - adjust curb line to southbound lane
from Mandalay to Coronado - west side only; 2) $9,162 - modify Mandalay splitter island;
3) $21,738 - enlarge curb return into right-of.way for northbound traffic off Coronado; 4)
$23,041 -: modify Coronado splitte'risland; 5) $15,370 - remove Marina splitter island; 6)
$14,400 - remove splitter island at Poinsettia; 7) $15,028 - enlarge curb line between
Marina and eastbound lane on Causeway; 8) $66,294 - remove fountain's top two tiers;
and 9) $5,000 - temporary striping. Additional costs to the $231,569 subtotal Include 5%
for cleanup, 5% for mobilization, and 2% for bonds and insurance, totaling $260,411, plus
a 20% contingency, for a total estimated cost of $313,000.
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The estimate to remove the fountain's top two steps does not cover other needed
modification costs. Ms. Arasteh estimated modifications to the fountain would
cost$160,OOO.
It was stated the proposed modifications to the roundabout can be done in stages.
Traffic Operations Manager Paul Bertels said the projects are independent of each other.
He recommended curb adjustments be constructed in tandem with splitter island
modifications. Staff was requested to compare the cost of completely resurfacing and
restriping the roundabout versus removing and replacing the striping. Mr. Bertels said
inclusion of plastic striping was an oversight. He felt painted stripes would be less
expensive. Public Works Director Gary Johnson estimated work would take several nights.
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Concern was expressed removing the Marina splitter, island may cause problems.
Ms. Arasteh said the splitter islands stop drivers from making left turns onto the
roundabout. Mr. Johnson indicated they also provide a place of refuge for pedestrians. In
response to a question, Mr. Johnson said Mr. Crown had recommended the bollards be
moved back five feet. Vehicles had destroyed three of them. The bollards are necessary
to keep vehicles off the sidewalks. It was recommended the Poinsettia exit be located
before the roundabout. In response to a question, Ms. Arasteh said some costs related to
Mandalay modifications can be absorbed by the streetscape project.
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Member Littler moved to recommend modifications to the roundabout as
recommended by Barry Crown to include # 1 adjust curb line to southbound lane from
Mandalay to Coronado - west side only; #2 modify Mandalay splitter island; #3 enlarge
curb return into right-of.way for northbound traffic off Coronado; #4 modify Coronado
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Causeway. The motion was duly seconded
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It was stated the annual savings from replacing the fountain with landscaping would
cover the cost of these modifications. In response to a concern, it was indicated the new
entrance to ~Vings had been constructed at night and did not affect roundabout traffic.
Ms. Arasteh said the Wings project took four weeks. When working on special in-house
projects, staff cannot complete City planned projects, such as sidewalk installation. ' In
response to a question, Mr. Bertets said traffic counters are on all beach access roads. The
loops are being fine tuned. It was stated the trigger that stops causeway traffic onto the
roundabout to address backups on Mandalay does not resolve traffic backups on Coronado.
It was suggested a loop also address Coronado backups. Mr. Bertels said another traffic
control cabinet has been installed at East Shore. The preemptive control of roundabout
traffic for the beach Fire Station is almost complete. He disagreed with Barry Crown's
recommendation to move the Mandalay pedestrian crossing closer to the roundabout.
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It was ,stated the fact that Coronado has a two-lane exit is not apparent to
roundabout drivers. It was suggested some candlesticks be installed. Discussion ensued
regarding traffic flow problems, including those related to drivers who are afraid to use the
inside lane. Mr. Bertels said staff is reviewing striping and the use of arrows on the
pavement. Ms. Arasteh said signage needs to be improved.
Upon the vote being taken, the motion carried unanimously.
(~) Discussion ensued regarding Barry Crown's recommendations #5 - remove Marina
splitter island and #6 . remove splitter island at Poinsettia. Safety concerns were
expressed regarding the recommendation to replace the splitter islands with striping. It
was suggested mountable bumps be installed to provide a refuge for pedestrians, direction
for traffic, and allow room for truck movement. Mr. Johnson said pavers could be included
in the bid process.
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Member Wagenfohr moved to recommend altering the splitter islands at the Marina
and Poinsettia to make them raised medians in front of the crosswalk and to leave them at
the existing height behind the crosswalk. The motion was duly seconded. Members
Hamilton, Littler, Lupien, Moran, Schulman, and Wagenfohr voted "Aye"; Member
Bickerstaffe voted "Nay." Motion carried.
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Discussion ensued regarding Crown's recommendation #8 ~ remove fountain's top
two tiers. Ms. Arasteh said the result would not be aesthetically pleasing. It was
suggested a reflecting pond, as originally proposed, replace the fountain. It was suggested
bubblers replace the spray to conserve water. It was felt drivers should be able to see
across to the other side of the roundabout. Mr. Johnson said removing the outside two
tiers would cost $160,000. Staff will review the recommendations to remove the top tiers
in the center of the fountain. It was suggested modifications to the fountain could lower
operating costs.
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In response to a question, Mr. Johnson said while the fountain is turned off due to ,
the water shortage. staff will fix the leaks, drain it, steam clean it, sand blast it, then
review the drought situation. In response to a suggestion, Ms. Arasteh said staff has not
found an expert who can solve problems related to the fountain, which has a unique
design. It was requested staff forward copies of Camp Dresser McKee, Inc. suggestions.
Mr. Johnson said until the drought subsides, it will be difficult to determine how ,much
water should be displayed. It was suggested nothing be done regarding this issue until the
drought is over. In response to a question, Mr. Johnson said reducing the fountain's
diameter would be difficult as the drains are on the outside. A report on all fountain
operating c.osts was requested.
In response to suggestions to raise the roundabout roadway several inches to
improve visual sight lines, Ms. Arasteh indicated the roundabout already is higher than the
surrounding roadways. She expressed concern increasing the angle of roundabout access
would increase driver difficulty. That change also would affect drainage. The roundabout
roadway would not be raised sufficiently to improve sight lines. It was felt the fountain
should not be modified as it is a signature feature on Clearwater beach. .
c) Alternatives
The Chair said the final report will need to include Committee recommended
. alternatives. He welcomed input and requested members bring suggestions to the next
meeting.
C:;i~ Concern was expressed future changes to the beach will affect roundabout traffic.
The location of future parking garages and the development of resort properties need to be
considered. It was recommended a parking garage be constructed on north beach to
educate visitors and encourage use of that portion of beach. It was suggested when that
garage is fully used, another garage be constructed by the recreation center, using footers
sufficient to allow future expansion. In response to a question, staff will verify meter use
on the beach. It was suggested visitors be encouraged to exit north beach via Poinsettia to
improve traffic flow.
Discussion ensued regarding difficulties accessing the roundabout off Coronado. It
was suggested a Police Aide be assigned to the roundabout during high traffic times.
Concern was expressed the roundabout needs to be better illuminated. It was stated Code
prohibits businesses from shining light onto surrounding properties. It was felt Wings
violates that requirement. causing the roundabout to appear even darker. It was requested
staff see if the business can lower its light pollution. It was recommended roundabout
lighting be evaluated. It was stated the lighting at the Hilton works well.
ITEM #4 - New Business
Ms. Arasteh said parking on the Causeway may soon be removed. Concern was
expressed a yearly event, advertised in conjuflction with Fun 'n Sun, draws a large crowd
to Clearwater beach. Participants, however, bring their own ice and supplies. The
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