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CITY OF CLEARWATER
December 11,2000
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Present:
Commissioner Ed Hart '
Herb Brown
Hoyt Hamilton
Bruce Littler
Roger Schulman
Carl Wagenfohr
Lucile Casey
Dan Moran'
Vacant Seat
Bob Bickerstaffe
Bill Jonson
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Arthur Lupien
'Also present: ' Mahshid Arasteh
Paul Bertels
Lt. John Slack
Sgt. Mike Waters
Gary Johnson
Cynthia E. Goudeau
Patricia O. Sullivan
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Committee Member - arrived 4:05 p.m.
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Public Works Administrator
Traffic Operations Manager
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Transportation & Drainage Director
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The Chair, called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m. at City Hall.
To provide continuity for research, items are in agenda order although not
necessarily discussed in that order.
ITEM #1 - Review Minutes
Minutes for November 20 and 27, 2000 meetings to be considered for approval on
January 8, 2001.
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Concern was expressed the annomometer, which measures the wind speed and
regulates the fountain's spray, has been moved adjacent to a palm tree, resulting in a wind
shadow. Traffic Operations Manager Paul Bertels said in the process of moving the
pedestrian crossing, the annomometer was moved.
Member Wagenfohr moved that preventing water from the fountain from spraying
on the roundabout is an important safety issue and that the City always should locate the
annomometer outside wind shadows. The motion was duly seconded and carried
unanimously.
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ITEM #3 - Discussion,
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al Cost Breakdown for Each Modification
It was stated the Committee had not slowed the process to upgrade the
roundabout, as cost figures were available too late to complete construction 'prior to Spring
Break. In response to a question; Public Works Administrator Mahshid Arasteh said the
designer of the original project agreed with Barry Crown's modification recommendations,
except he felt the candlesticks on the east side of the roundabout should be relocated and
was concerned about increased speeds.
, Concern was expressed the anticipated cost of almost $1 .54milllon to modify the
roundabout is too expensive. One member submitted a written opinion regarding each
'suggestion. It was 'requested other committee members also submit opinions. Discussion
ensued regarding the committee's opposition to installing sidew-9lks across Causeway
Boulevar~ in front of the Marina and reducing the fountain's height. It was suggested the
estimated costs to widen the entry/exit radii are too high if it only improves truck
. movement; It was stated ,one proposal for beach redevelopment would eliminate the truck
exit to East Shore. Fire trucks are able to navigate the roundabout by riding over curbs. It
, was suggested that movement is unacceptable and should be fixed.
It was felt the roundabout is functioning and residents are now educated to traverse
it successfully. It was stated the new entryway eliminated a dangerous curve where many.
fatalities had occurred previously. It was suggested the City spend money on enforcement
of traffic laws instead of undertaking a large construction project. Lt. Slack said the Police
Department's staff levels on the beach have decreased and may be reduced further. The
roundabout now averages 4.4 fender benders per month compared with 15.8 per month
before the candlesticks were added. It was recommended staff gather vehicular and
pedestrian traffic data this Spring ~reak to compare with last year.
It was suggested the CIty trim the shrubbery and replace some landscaping to lower
maintenance costs. Transportation & Drainage Director Gary Johnson estimated the annual
costs to maintain the entryway are $140,000 for the fountain and $140,000 for the
landscaping. It was recommended the sign clutter at the roundabout entry be eliminated.
It was stated visitors find signage too close together and confusing. Ms. Arasteh reported
FDOT (Florida Department of Transportationl has agreed to allow the City to install
directional signs on the Causeway, 800 feet and 1600 feet west of Island Way. FDOT
requires the City to increase the size of the signs from 36 inches square to 48 inches
square.
Consensus was to improve the signage by the rounciabout by removing extra signs
and installing them on the Causeway. Staff will submit a drawing of the signs to the
committee.
Discussion ensued regarding directional information to be included on the signs. It
was recommended the signs identify exits to north and south beach. It was recommended
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the names of destination streets, including Gulfview, be included if it is not too cluttered
and confusing. Staff will work on proposed language.
Consensus was for new signs to be installed as soon as possible, even if they are to
be replaced when colors and design are finalized. ;
, In response to a question, Ms. Arasteh said it is important for drivers to decide
which lane they need to be in before they enter the roundabout. It was recommended the
City color coordinate signs to north and south beach, as it is done at Tampa Airport.'
It was recommended a sign indicate the speed limit through the roundabout is 1 5
mph. Lt. Slack reported the State must authorize that speed limit if drivers are to be
ticketed for speeding. It was suggested a sign be installed that indicates the speed limit
and reports to drivers of oncoming vehicles how fast they are traveling. It was felt the
success of the sign could be tested during Spring Break. It successful, Lt. Slack suggested
the sign could be enclosed in an aesthetically attractive housing.
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, Support was expressed for the implementation of the Crown Report
recommendations to improve safety and increase the entryway's capacity. It was
suggested committee members respect the opinions of engineers, who have studied this
issue. It was suggested that drivers be encouraged to use their turn signals. It was
recommended illumination of the roundabout be increased. It was noted those costs are
not included in the estimate. It was requested that staff submit estimates on the cost of
lighting the roundabout with floodlights installed on top of nearby buildings. Mr. Bertels
suggested adding 4 or 5 light posts along the entry medium could improve the visual
perception that the area is too dark. He will report on the increase in illumination that
would result. It was stated the color lights look nice. Lt. Slack suggested consideration of
2-foot high lights that illuminate the roadway only. Staff will research the issue.
It was suggested education efforts begin before construction. Concern was
expressed little can be done to stop pedestrians from darting into traffic. It was felt the
proposed Mandalay reconfiguration may be too grandiose. Concern was expressed the
proposed change will required traffic from Mandalay to stop when entering the roundabout,
instead of yielding. It was recommended educational brochures on the roundabout be
distributed at the tourism office on the Courtney Campbell Causeway.
b) Education Model - None.
ITEM #4 - New Business
The Chair reported the City Commission has requested a written report from the
Clearwater Beach Entryway Advisory Committee in March, prioritizing recommended
projects and summarizing the types of inquiries the committee had made.
The Committee congratulated Lt. John Slack regarding his promotion to Captain and
welcomed his replacement, Sgt. Mike Waters, who had been promoted to Lieutenant.
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Former Committee member, David Hemerick, was congratulated for his temporary
appointment to the City Commission. The', City Commission will determine which alternate
will assume Mr. Hemerick's seat.
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In response to an observation, staff will contact Florida Power regarding the light
poles, Which, are out of plumb.
It was' noted beach business owners feel their Input related to this project has not
b~en adequate., It was recommended a meeting to gather Input from the beach community
should be scheduled within the next 60 days.
The meeting adjourned at 5:32 p.m.
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Discussion ensued regarding beach development project pro::lOsals and density
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The next me'eting is scheduled for January 8, 2001, at City Hall, at 4:00 p.m.
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