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CLEARWATER BEACH ENTRVWAY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
. CITY OF CLEARWATER
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Present:
Commissioner Ed Hart
Lucile Casey
I Hoyt Hamilton
David Hemerick
Bruce Littler
Arthur Lupien
Roger Schulman
Cad Wagenfohr
Bill Jonson
Facilitator/Non Voting Chair.
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Dan Moran
Bob Bickerstaffe
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Also present: Mahshid Arasteh
Paul Bertels
. lt, John Slack
Cynthia e, Goudeau
Patricia O. Sullivan
Public Works Administrator
Traffic Operations Manager
Police Department
City Clerk
Board Reporter
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To provide continuity for resoarch, items .ara in agenda order although not
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Chair Hart called the meeting to order at 4:00 p,m. at City Hall.
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ITEM # 1 - Aoproval of Minutes
. Member Hamilton moved to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of
September 25, 2000, as submitted in written summation to each board member. The
motion was duly seconded.
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It was requested copies of the minutes be e-mailed to members when they are
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Upon the vote being taken, the motion carried unanimously.
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ITEM #2 - Old Business
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It was stated the Crown report does not consider long term plans for south beach.
In response to a question, Public Works Administrator Mahshid Arasteh said Barry Crown
had suggested moving the ingress to the Pier 60 parking lot to Coronado to move traffic off
beach roads more quickly. While the plan would move a queue of up to 30 vehicles off the
street and into the parking lot, vehicles trying to depart the lot would be blocked, .
Constructing a parking garage near the beach entrance is a long-term solution. A new
traffic control system planned for Gulf-to~Bay Boulevard will allow staff to communicate
with beach.bound vehicles via message boards and encourage use of ferries and buses. On
.Thursday, the City Commission will consider a grant to study alternative modes of
transportation between the mainland and beach. Jt has been noted this data would be
especially crucial if the Tampa Bay region is chosen as a future Olympic venue.
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It was noted only two members had submitted questions for Mr. Crown during a
planned. conference call. As they are turned in, staff will distribute copies of the questions
to other members. To provide adequate time for member question submittal, the Chair
recommended the conference call be' delayed at least until October 16, 2000, Cost
estimates for proposed changes will not be available until then,
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Traffic Operations Manager Paul Bertels said the Crown Report is a guide, The
I. ~."':~\ designer will make final decisions. It was recommended the designer be required to justify,
\'~d' in writing, each deviation from the report. In response to a question, Ms. Arasteh said
legal staff has indicated the City has no recourse regarding the roundabout's original
design, as that design was based on assumptions and priorities provided by the City: 1)
attractive beach entryway; 2) economic redevelopment; 3) pedestrian traffic movement;
and 4) vehicular traffic movement. Concern was expressed the City Commission seriously
. consider committee input as end users of the interchange. When preparing this report, Mr.
Crown had been directed to consider solutions without relying on preconceived ideas.
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Concern was expressed the current design gives pedestrians and vehicles equal
status, It was felt the roundabout's function had been compromised for aesthetic
purposes. Safety concerns related to the fountain were expressed. It was suggested City
priorities have changed and that pedestrian and vehicular needs are foremost. Ms. Arasteh
said the project's foliage has not grown sufficiently to block pedestrian movement. It was
suggested plants with thorns or a low fence would stop pedestrian crossings where they
are not wanted
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Most roundabout traffic exits onto Coronado and the causeway. Both exits have 2
lanes, Remedial efforts are needed.
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Mr. Bertels indicated report recommendations related to signage had already been
accomplished. FOOT (Florida Department of Transportation) currently will not allow
advanced directional signs to be placed on the causeway. Staff continues to work to
resolve the issue. It was recommended driving instructors be contacted so that they teach
correct roundabout traffic movement, Mr, Bertels said new electrical wiring would have to
be installed before electrical exit signs could be raised sufficiently to' avoid blocking
vehicular sight lines. It was' suggested the signs be moved farther from the exits or placed
in the center island after the turn, It was felt advanced notice related to the next.exit is
needed. Concern was expressed signs in the middle o'f the island would create a hazard, It
was recommended signs remain illuminated to improve their visibility. It was suggested the
signs could be replaced with regular 7-foot City street signs, which feature a hibiscus.
It was stated street names mean little to arriving tourists. Consensus was to
recommend that signs direct traffic to North Beach and South Beach with smaller letters
stating via Mandalay or Poinsettia, or Coronado and Gulfview, Staff was asked to estimate
the cost of changing the signs.
As a tiny' strip of Gulfview remains on north beach, it was recommended staff
rename that portion of the street to avoi'd confusion.
It was recommended the board consider changes to the fountain after all cost
, estimates are available. The Chair reported reducing the fountain's height by 2 tiers is
estimated to cost $1 24,000.
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In response to a question, Ms. Arasteh said striping of the roundabout has not
begun. She felt comfortable the proposed radii are adequate to eliminate difficult right
turns. She reviewed the changes recommended in the report. Staff will report next week
on the measurements of the planned changes and striping. It was stated the tail of the
island at the marina entrance is superfluous and impedes truck access, The importance of
protecting the crosswalks at all exits was stated, Concern was expressed the planned
changes to the Poinsettia exit may not be sufficient. It was stated Roundabouts: An
Informational Guide, published by USDOT and the Federal Highway Administration,
discourages bypass lanes.
It was noted City agreements related to a new project on north beach wi11 prevent
Mandalay from being designated as a one-way street,
It was recommended the City partner with Channel 9 and government agencies with
cable channels to expand education efforts to Pinellas and Hillsborough county residents
regarding use of the roundabout, It was felt current efforts do not reach a large enough
audience.
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Discussion erisued regarding safety issues related to the Coronado and Causeway
. exits, It, was noted strategies to negotiate the roundabout differ depending upon the exit
used. It was stated right lane traffic off Mandalay often backs up. It was recommended
pedes'trian movement be repositioned away from roundabout traffic.
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It was requested that sight distance measurements be redone. Mr. Bertels stated
the consultants had already performed those measurements.
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Members were requested to submit questions for Mr. Crown to address, Once a list
of proposals is prepared, costs can be considered when prioritizing recommendations, It
was requested the City Commission not act on, changes until the committee presents their
input.
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Copies were distributed of the Beach by Design report issued by Charlie Siemon, of
, Siemon and Larsen. It was suggested the City test Mr, Siemon's suggestion for one-way
pairs on south beach. Concern was expressed using Coronado and Harnden as one-way
pairs is impractical, It was felt Coronado and Gulfview would work as one-way pairs, be
an inexpensive experiment, and may improve roundabout traffic. It was noted Mr. Siemon
had recommended closing Gulfview to through traffic and removing the parking. Ms.
Arasteh said City traffic studies continue to consider solutions. ..
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It was stated costs for a beach transit system cannot be justified, except during the
peak 3 months of visitors. To be successful, a transit system from the mainland would
require its own lane, which is not included in the design for the new bridge. A cost benefit
analysis was recommended to consider incentives for those who choose alternative
transportation, It was suggested weekend parking rates could be increased. Concern was
expressed tourists not be impacted. Mr, Bertels estimated constructing a narrow gauge
transport system ",."ould cost $1 O~mimon per mile. The County is considering a public
transportation program. A City system could be linked with the County. It was
recommended private/public funding be considered, In response to a question, Ms. Arasteh
said free ferry service during Spring Break had attracted few riders.
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Concern was expressed bottlenecks at the intersection of Coronado, and Gulfview
back traffic to Shepherds, Lt. John Slack reviewed police efforts during peak times.
Eliminating left turns onto Coronado from Gulfview improves traffic flow off south beach.
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Lt. Slack narrated videotape taken by the Police Department from the top of the
Hilton' Hotel duri~g Spring Break 2000. In response to a questio.n, tv1s. Arasteh s'aid during
that. time, backed up vehicles from the mainland took al1 average of 1 5 minutes to traverse
. the causeway from the large bridge to beach destinations. . During peak times, traffic
backed up as far as Missouri Avenue.
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The tape showed slow vehicles' searching for parking spaces along Gulfview,
.' causing traffic to back-up into the roundabout. Three police officers, stationed at the
roundabout to direct traffic' during high traffic volumes, can clear traffic from the ,
I roundabout when fire engines and emergency vehicles approach, Mr. Bertels said staff wfll
, be' able to activate a signal to stop traffic before the fire truck leaves the beach station.
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ITEM #5 - Next MeetinQ.
The next meeting is scheduled for October 9, 2000, at 4:00 p,m. at City Hall.
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The meeting adjourned at 5:42 p,m.
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