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MAS /',. ~t, ' i .I, " c J' '" . ,,' Marine Advisory Board, MINUTES ii' ,0 ,; ." .. '. ,',., (", ' ;'., ',' , . c""- ", .( ., , "J 'I I " , \ Da'te,., , . '05-10 - &CJ .1 ! " . \." ". ," e. I' '.' ) . " I / '7~ , / " ,I , ",. 'i' ~ "I' , '. + , - ,,': '~. \ '/, ( , '1, . \ :" . .', . ' / '(' ." '1' " , .,1 If' .\'" : i \ . '. , :.', .',J- ,~.",i,:!~ .: \' "\" ;,~',,", 'I' . ~~: .I~ ',.','; . '\\(: , ,<, . ~ I\,i"' 0\ ,'. i.... I I, " ,. ~' ../,~' . j. r,':' ;';< ," >: ~:--' j" I', t':r ,I.,..... ': ,/..,. "' jl t " .,:';:,.:.','>:,./'.... J ".' ,,( '", /"" t. '.,' \' :,",: 'f. ,,','," "':'.' ~I:.' ":",',.:i .'. .',1".'.'. ~'\' , I " ,,!., " . ""'(' ',,"" 0/'" ':'~ ",.:'.\:: '.<'.::','. ,,;..~'"..,;.:;:'~,\ :>'\'"':i,,:,,,<'.::..1i..,': ;:; ,:.:;, ,:'~:,: :<. :' ..,..:.,>' .\ ,>,:, " ".', :', ". '.:,;: <.::' 'j t"<:::;"~'''''~' \, '" ." " \'\,1"" '" , I..'." "J' .. 'J~' /",'. .- ~ I' .( "". '. . 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To provide ,continuity for research, items are in agenda order al.though not necessarily discussed in that order. , " ITEM 2 - April Minutos Approval 'c~ The Chair said as there were no changes or corrections to the minutes of the regular meeting' of April 12, 2000, the minutes stand approved as submitted in written summation to each board member. . ITEM 3 - Tracv Bruch. City of Clearwater ParklnQ Facilities Manager .~~,' Tracy Bruch, Parking Facilities Manager, requested the MAB's [Marine Advisory Board) input regarding a proposal for increased permit parking rates, particularly at the marina. She said the average annual revenue per space for the marina lot over the past five years is $ 500. Parking rates have not been increased at the marina for eight years. The majority of the marina parking lot is used for permit parking. It is proposed that half-day parking rates increase from $1 to $3; full day rates from $2 to $6; monthly rates from $15 to ,$20; annual rates from $120 to $150; and metered parking rates from $ .50 an hour to $ .75 an hour. These increases will help fund City parking garages and cover the increased cost of doing business. Pier 60 parking lot rates are $10 a day or $1.50 an hour. All other meters at Clearwater beaches recently increased from $ .75 to $1 an hour. It was remarked that business owners at the marina will be the most affected b'y the increased parking costs as they generally reimburse their clientele. Ms. Bruch said marina staff surveyed other marinas throughout the State. Results indicated many other marinas do not charge for parking. She said Dunedin's municipal marina charges $50 a year. She was unsure how closely the marinas in Ft. Pierce, Naples, Tarpon, Springs, and St. Petersburg compare to Clearwater, as their marinas are not as close to the beach. It was commented that Clearwater's marina parking lot is frequenfed by beachgoers whereas other cities' marinas are not. In response to a question, Mr. Morris said a police attendant at the marina directs beachgoers to the mmab0500 1 05/10100 I , ' : :' " ,:,' .::, ';:-" :: .': ::,:' : ", ::~, ;'>:,':,;: '., :/,':\ '~, '~( ,:':. ::" I ,~ ,!':., .' :,.'..>: ,j ::-:; \ j ;'/ ~,:..(:,; (:', I.:, ,',:', ,~' :> '~, ?: ;:::.' I'> '<, : :,:>'" ~>, ':< :,' ~'~':':. ',::',:', : '::: ':,~ ~;>.: ""~',>.>, ~'.,'~':',:;: < ,.:", '~. ,;~' ~',:: :~/' '(\ L , '. ".. , "-"": 11 , ':' 'I' . ( I. (I ~. ',.... . l.,. .. .. I.! ' . l t . I . ~ j ., J '.... ',. I \. /- I j . '. . I . ~ .<,l. 'I ~ " /1". I' .1 ',. j . . :';; .:.\;'<,_' ,,", "}':"- ,:,:",'::~',::"'\~'./:~:::,': ':":"',':::~ :'~ ';,:)".',::..":~F::,;:'::::,::':>< :',~\::;':':,:''..''/.~.''~(<,X.'::,'; .:\:,.....,,'I,':"~'.l"'; ..-: ,,: ...,<"},:,,~~:' :::':~':':'/:>,:'~';:,"::;:'~f~i:'</::,'.'''~~' \ \., \'1"'" " 'j" '" .\,}r"r.', ,','.. "I \ ..,', ,t.",\-, ,'. ;,,', "(",,. I' .,', ,\) I.~'.'.~ ":'\.' ,i'.,,:I"" .i",'},',+'~ ~',{""'\.::",~.I.f"'r.<:.>~:~j .;....,.i::.\:I:\.;.:"Ii.~ ';"""~:'II::' ',' "j ~'..'.~ 1"I...j::~. ~',:,~'t;\",.;,/';''':'~'i\'':: , " . I"' \" '". ~:I:>:,.~.. \' .~ II, c'~'. .,1 .. ,",'. ~~ " 1 " \ " . ~.. t. , , , " > ,.' , ' > , " I .", ,~ temporary lot on the Memorial Causeway. It was remarked increased parking rates at the marina will discourage beachgoers parking there. In response to a question~ . Ms. Bruch said revenues raised by parking fees go into the parking fund, which is separate from' the general fund and the marina. The parking system pays for beach sand cleaning, lifeguard programs, maintenance of the marina lot, and other , programs. It was suggested the proposed increases be implemented gradually rather than all at once. It was remarked that businesses, boaters, etc. at the marina have increased their fees, but not 300% as is proposed for parking rates. One member said up to double the current parking rates would be a more palatable increase. It was felt that parking is a function of the marina and revenues should not be used as a "cash cow" to support parking garages. Discussion ensued regarding how parking permits are sold at the marina. Business owners can , purchase parking permits and sell them to patrons. In response to a question, Ms. Bruch said the Engineering Department is performing an economic feasibility study, far the proposed parking garages. It was remarked the proposed parking garages' will not be economically feusible, as they will only be busy during p~ak times. . I I , i ITEM 4 - Other Business I.' . '~.~~ .,.." .!iy' ~"~~ J:, fl.,,,.. ~-' Robert Gorman, Harbour Lights Motel Apartments, submitted information regarding his request for a waverunner rental operation to the guests of Harbour Lights Motel and Apartments at 205 Srightwater Drive. He said safety is the number one priority. Renters must be 18 years or older. Hours of operation will be 9:00 a.m. to one.I1alf hour before sunset. Renters will be shown a wave runner safety video, will be educated on the operation of personal water craft, and taken on a tour to keep them away from commercial lanes of traffic. He referred to a map of the area intended for his patrons. Mr. Gorman said his property is zoned commercial as are other surrounding properties. :).;1 IV '}" " , :j,', Concern was expressed that the ramps at the Clearwater Sailing Center are dangerous. Harbormaster Bill Morris will expedite adding extra sand at the ramps to eliminate safety hazards. He said the ramps were to be completed in February but have been delayed because of requested permits. . ., I', I,' ;\;:.: I',ll '}", 'v A'I ":: \ , ~ '.~ ., , In responSE! to a question, Mr. Morris said the Coast Guard plans to move the 82-foot search and rescue unit at the marina. He has no knowledge of any plans to . close the Coast Guard station on Sand Key. ,~ ii ".{ , '. .' ,1.~l I" 1'\ ..... , \, . " , I '\ .:.. '. /ii, , ,c , I \1 , i. It was requested that the deGuardiola group be invited to a MAS meeting for a redevelopment update, particularly in regard to marina and dockage activities. It was remarked that no details have been defined and may not be until after the referendum. Mr. Morris said the Parks and Recreation Department is redoing some of the seawall landscape and sidewalk area at the swimming pool on the north beach. It was questioned if fenders or other materials can be used to allow boaters to tie boats on the seawall and use the pool. " ", '--- Mr. Morris said he felt it important to allow business owners requesting waterway activities to attend MAB meetings. They can present their plans and obtain input prior to implementing marine activities. In response to a question, Mr. " f,.1, ~i. , "f " \,' ~ mmab0500 2 , 05/10100 , '\ .~' . (. 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'J. ~ "-;1 (' , {~hl:'JJ...'~~~-I\-~'~f:' ~..~i'4('~'~'.'l-"'I)':I''-''~'~'"'l;~ ~'I_.l:'t l;.r"t!~">~.~' ~~( '~j .'" '.0...." ~ I, ".'.: ~1'1-' II ;.., 't' I. .... . ).) . j'l. .", '. ~ , ~::!:z~\~~;r?i~~\~;:\";?~:'~':~\:\~;:';''':';~}:''>'l~;:'',.':{,;,{;",~,),::..,:':;,:,...:,:,:;,/. !<'\,:..',<:..;,':., ':','"., ( '" " ',: ': ," :i;.....;,', ,'. ...'"., ,:' ::. "", i,,'; ,,' I ~,'""I."" I" ...~ ,'.>. ': l ~. .. '\ , . . : ~ Morris said the development proposal for docks on Island Estates .adjacent to Ross Yachts "vas withdrawn by the owner and the County dismissed the request without ,prejudice. Mr. Morris ha'd no information regarding Radisson's request for docks. It was 'questio.ned why a white' police boat was stopping boaters at the edge of. ' Clearwater Pass. It was noted that,the Sheriff's office boats are gray. In response to a question, Mr; Morris said Shephard's Restaurant is building a multilevel parking garage on Gulf Boulevard. ""C)" ," . . I" r' 1, . , .' .," : "fl" > . ., ". ITEM' 6 - AQenda for next meetlno on June 14. 2000 '. ~, No items were submitted. See Item #4. . ITEM 6 -' Adlournment , Tho meeting' adjourned at 9:00 a.m." ," '.' , " I ' ,... ~'~~, Chair '. Marine Advisory Board ~ ( '. t'.t.~.;~~" "'f'1 "-1\:.~ . .~ .. .' , . IA da- m{)/)CO . Board Reporter , r , , , :) ~I '. , \ ' " mrnab0500 . 3 05/10/00 \ ~..? ,." .l: . " \' : ~ ' ,\. , .,. 1,;,'1 ,,,",,. ~ '\".,::", . ,'/,.., '/ '.. v\. ".:".' ""'1. ,. I ..y'.,.. '>;'.\' , \!,~":"J,,:\,\"~:\\';"V '1",''\,',;' 'i,:,.:": .', "i ,~ "1 -\ . ..: ',.: \....l.,.,' '. I" ~/J~'." 'I. ....~..~.. ~ .' f'\:i~..-(..;.)'/,I'.l' ~.;~.,,~. '\,1'.; "\", :.ir':'..J:>"., " :\''.,..,~.:,::.:~:~;'.,..~:,:;\' "',.' /\;v>" ,~:>~.~I': ;.';':/' ': :,>',;" ~:~)-".' ,).::.,"...:.:li2l:~' ~': ,:";:"<~~ :r~""';:':""/~/:' ,,:,~'~/I' :?:.,>~~'::::'g!~',:<,~:.,:'i :,:i,;;'::\ ':::\~;/>:("""~\" . \ /':' ,..';..' " \\. '..' ..) ,'';,. .;.. .'...', '/' ..', .., I ',' '. 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David Hemerick Hank Epstein Nick Matsis Dick Safirstein Tom Horne Bill Wilhelm Chair Board Member Board Member Board Member Board Member Board Member " Absent: Donald McFarland Board Member Also Present: William Morris , , ' Marcia Charlton Harbormaster Administrative Analyst The Chair called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m. atthe Marina. To provide continuity for research, items are in agenda order although not necessarily discussed in that order. ITEM 2 - ADril Minutes ADDroval ' The Chair said as there were no changes or corrections t,o the minutes of the ~::~1.t regular meeting of May 10, 2000, the minutes stand approved as submitted. ITEM 3 - Other Business Mr. Morris stated that the boat that ran up on the south side of the jetty was being pulled off by Sea Tow, supposed to be off by the 11"1, The USCG has remarked the channel with quick flash approximately a Yo. of mile off the jetty. This has been sent out in the Notice to Mariners bulletin. Mr. Hemerick has had requests to write up a letter of support to reclaim the bridge and the footprint for the marina. Letter should be sent to the commission and the Better Clearwater committee. The motion was duly seconded and carried unanimouslv for Mr. Hemerick to write up letter. Noise complaint regarding JJBallistic" and "Adrenalin", Mr. Morris will talk to Mr. Hopper, understands that "Adrenalin" will be leaving and going to John's Pass. ,.-..J Mr. Horne asked if Mr. Tom Cuba was going to come and talk to the MAS regarding slips at the Radisson. Mr. Morris said he had come to the Sailing Center and groups at Sand KeYI he will contact Mr. Cuba and get an update. The problem is that there are grassy areas and the slips cannot be built close to them but further out. Environmental does not want sand being blown back on the grass beds as there are lots of fish even in the deep areas. On the flats south of the channel the grass beds are growing also. mmab0600 1 06/14/00 . 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As a temporary fix sand was brought to fill in, but does 'not last. , 1'. A question was raised as what the city could do to further restrict the wake zone on the open side. Mr. Morris said that the existing city ordinance ISec. 33.072) restricts vessel speed within 50 feet of shore. Markers will not last, they get knocked down unless pilings are put in and if we IMarine Department) enforce . we'll have to raise fees to cover expenses. A m~tion was made to amend the ordinance to say 200 feet of shore and, maybe specific wording about areas involved.. . Mr. Horne suggested that they get Island Estates Assoc. to help back it arid finance it. The motion was duly seconded and carried with one nay for Mr. Wilhelm to draft an amendment to the ordinance. Mr. Horne withdrew his second vote so that more information can be evaluated before Mr. Morris drafts the amondment. My. Morri's will also get a better chart from' Engineering to bring to next me'eting and check OLlt areas mentioned in ordinance. This may also be a way to manage Jet Ski's. " I (), '1' ", ' . \/. ." r.' tI .('. ,\ll .. '" J ~ I. t~, . ~. .. . ::~.; .1 \f.:;' '.-.J' '(.~"",: \';: J . ~ '. -.::' /~>...: ~;~. .'.," \./.{ ~'~~:: ;~(~ 1I!'.'j) ~:" . ~.,. \i'.\ The members asked questions regarding the downtown development plans and Mr. Morris spoke to the need to vote for all three as all11~ree are needed for the entire project to be a success. ", ~ ;.i . '\' ().l.f ;~),~; i:~'; '~ . . l ;:~~. , ITEM 4 - Aaenda for next meetinQ on Julv 12. 2000 '\',' " : .;.:., ,\.,. /..: (.." I",: ~ l,{-' ~( .., ~',. .', '.(t' J ~ , .' Topics will include the above mentioned amendment draft and waterway maintenance areas and parking fee rate issue. ITEM 5 - Adiournment The meeting adjourned at 9:02 a.m. C ir Marine Advisory Board :x' i; .~: I, . 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