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Marino Advisory Board
City of Cloarwater .
Juno 9, 1999
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Present:
David C. Martens
David Hemerlck
Bill Wilhem
Donald McFarland
Hank Epstein
Nick Matsls
Dick Safersteln
Also Present:
William D. Morris
Dave Perkins
Marcia Charlton
Tom Miller
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Chair
Board Member
Board Member
Board Member
Board Member
Board Member
Board Member
Harbormaster/Marlne
Ex-member of board
Staff Assistant III/Marine
Engineering Department
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To provide continuity for research, items are In agenda order although not necessarily
discussed In that order.
ITEM 1 - Call to Order - 8:00 a.m. at the municipal marina
ITEM 2 - Minutes Approval - May 5, 1999
. Minutes approved as submitted.
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ITEM 3 - Manarove Presentation bv Tom Miller
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, Mr. Tom Miller with the City of Clearwater Engineering Department handed out a list of
what the Florida Statue states concerning mangroves. Most of the mangroves are in public
hands not privately owned. or approximately 20% of the total mangroves in the state are
privately owned. The state says no trimming or any alteration of mangroves may be permitted
on uninhabited islands, which are publicly owned or land set aside for conservation
preservation, except where necessary to protect public health. (the causeway mangroves
leading to the beach fall under this designation)
He has looked at public health, safety and welfare and/or to enhance public use. Now
. they are looking at using "with approved management plan" and he is now meeting with the
public and other environmental boards to see if the idea is feasible and we can get permitting.
There is a city comprehensive city plan which says that the city will not trim back the
mangroves or alter them. Mr. Miller stated there are other problems with people wanting to see
the water and another group who do not want to see cars. He Is trying to get permission to do
selective trimming of the mangroves which may serve the city and both groups of citizens. He
also stated that the permitting process alone may take months, because the state doesn't even
want to talk about it.
Along the causeway, there are red, white and black mangroves. The red mangroves or
trees cannot be topped but the lower limbs can be trimmed. If we are able to get this okayed by
the state. we can start a precedence to continue this selective trimming program. Tom stated
.....) that If they were to be trimmed, they would be as low as 3 feet to as high as they would
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normally grow. This would include both sides of the causeway. It would cost approximately
$45,000 to $90,000 a year to maintain the trimming, more if done at an oblique angle.
Mr. Morris asked about the mangroves at the sailing center, Tom Indicated that they
would first be attempting to get permitting and funding to trim the causeway mangroves. The
mangroves help protect the land by their roots and "canopy", water erosion and wind. The
process will take some months to bring this to the commission, including the funding.
Tom stated that he would like to have a letter signed by all the board members that they
support this effort regarding the mangrove trimming but not at this time. Mr. Wilhelm stated that
they should have specific locations and determine how much needs to be cut, and in a few
months put this together to be presented to the city commission. Mr. Miller stated that this
would be done with the feasibly study in a few months and he could bring that to one of their
meetings. The feasibly study would include an overlay of the new bridge. A question was
raised as to the impact of the trimming on the area, exactly where to trim and how much will be
al,lowed and the feasibly study will hopefully answer those questions.
Mr. Miller has put money in the budget for this year but it has not been approved yet.
He invited the board to visit his office at the MSB building (2nd floor) to look at pictures already
taken of the mangrove area on the causeway. Also, the possibly to plant other species and
soften the new causeway bridge.
ITEM 4 ~ Other Business
Mr. Morris stated a new member had been appointed to replace Mr. Martens. His name
is Tom Horne and his first meeting will be at the July meeting on the 14th.
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Mr. Morris had looked in to the other areas regarding speed zones. The county has
pockets of Idle Speed zones and he is pursuing the background on what the county does. He
, will present his findings at a board meeting as soon as has the information. There is a
successful program on Lake Tarpon and he is checking it out.
The city manager has asked Mr. Morris to try to triple the number of dock spaces for the
public use. One of areas is a basin that was a yacht club, the Yacht Basin apartments put in
docks and are in fight with the state because the docks were not built according to the approved
plan. The city Is going to do a seagrass survey, before they can proceed with permitting for
docks. A question was asked regarding the pass around under the short bridge to the beach
that was raised at a commission meeting. It was a proposal to connect up with the Pinellas
trail. There is another location along Coachman Park from the dock to the new bridge which
Mr. Morris is looking at again.
ITEM 5 - Adiournment
The meeting adjourned at 9:05 a.m.
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