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Present:
Bill Horne
Joe Calio
Joe Evich
Rowland Herald
George Kraus
John Lee
Scott Nail
Bill Schwob
William Sherman
Duke Tieman
Doug Williams
Absent:
Russ Kimball
Jean Stuart
Also Present:
Chuck Kearns
Dwaine Booth
Margie Simmons
Tina Wilson
Cyndie Goudeau
Brenda Moses
FIRE TASK FORCE MEETING
CITY OF CLEARWATER
October 12, 1999
Chair (non-voting)
Task Force Member
Task Force Member
Task Force Member
Task Force Member
Task Force Member
Task Force Member
Task Force Member
Task Force Member
Task Force Member
Task Force Alternate
Task Force Member
Task Force Alternate
Pinellas County EMS/ Fire Administration Director
Pinellas County EMS/ Fire Administration Assistant
Financial Services Administrator
Budget Director
City Clerk
Board Reporter
The Chair called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m. at City Hall.
To provide continuity for research, items are in agenda order although not necessarily
discussed in that order.
ITEM 2 - Aonroval of Minutes
Member Evich requested that paragraph 1, sentence 4, page 3 read #Mr. Carino
stated that a cost reduction...". Member Schwob moved to approve the minutes of
October 5 1999, as amended.' The motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously.
Item 3 - County Fire Officials' Persoective on Fire Service Needs
Chuck Kearns, Director of Pinellas County EMS and Fire Administration, said special
legislative acts for fire control and EMS (emergency medical services) authority allow the
County to provide local planning and program coordinationlinformation. In unincorporated
areas, the administration also manages EMS and Fire contracts. Sunstar is the registered
U.S. trade name owned by Pint:!lIas County government and operated by a private
contractor. Sunstar owns the equipment, performs all operations, and is responsible for all
related liability. Pinellas County has 60 fire stations within 200 square miles. To provide
adequate response time coverage, fire stations should be 3 miles apart. Ambulances are
dispatched by flexible deployment depending upon historical call demand. He said Pinellas
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County has a world-class EMS system, with an all-advanced life support system. As an
EMS public utility model design, paramedics on all vehicles provide the highest quality
patient care. Reliability of responses is the second highest priority. The final factor Is
fiscal efficiency. The objective Is to use sound financial business practices. Due to the
,transient population, the County bills users for services rather than taxpayers. The County
has the lowest area paramedic ambulance rates in the area. The overage is returned to the
EMS tax fund for allocation to Fire Departments for first responder paramedics. Mr. Kearns
said first responder paramedics average 4-minute response times countywide. The average
paramedic ambulance response time is 6 minutes and 23 seconds countywide. The first
paramedic to the scene stabilizes the patient and begins the paperwork. Upon arrival of the
ambulance paramedic, the patient and paperwork are turned over to that paramedic who
completes the transport, finishes the paperwork and patient care, and completes
documentation, billing information, etc. Mr. Kearns said Pinellas County has standardized
operations. Pinellas County contracts with municipalities and special districts under a
standardized set of policies and procedures to provide quality service.
Mr. Kearns reviewed emergency services data for Sand Key and Island Estates. He
said Fire Department data does not include Sunstar service. In 1 998, Sand Key had 236
EMS-related calls and 1 70 fire-related calls, one for a working fire. More than 200 medical
calls were received. Island Estates had 237 EMS-related calls, 70 fire-related calls, and
more than 200 medical calls. Assistant Director of Pinellas County EMS and Fire
Administration Dwaine Booth said most of the time, Station 46 units respond to Island
Estates and Sand Key EMS calls faster than other area stations. In response to a question,
Mr. Kearns said he knew of no present data on Station 46's relation to Sand Key and Island
Estates. He did not compare the data to other areas served. Fire Chief Rowland Herald
said he will supply station activity numbers. He said Station 46' s territory is divided into
five areas of coverage: 1) Island Estates; 2) Sand Key; 3) north beach; 4) south beach; and
5) Pier 60. Chief Herald said not to draw conclusions from data related to only two areas
served by Station 46. In response to a question, Mr. Booth said the City is responsible for
providing a first response unit within a certain time frame. The Sunstar ambulance
simultaneously is dispatched to all calls to arrive within a specific time frame. He said
ambulances arrive first to 25 % of the calls due to their strategic locations throughout the
county. In response to a question, he said the EMS agreement indicates 90% of answered
calls must arrive within 7 minutes and 30 seconds. The ambulance contract requires a 10-
minute response time 90% of the time. Increasing response times would require additional
units at higher costs. In response to a question, he said from the time a call is received
until the unit arrives on scene is considered the response time.
Mr. Booth reviewed: 11 how to improve medical emergency survivability; 2) how to
reduce property loss from fire; 3) response time requirements; and 4) options for varied
response times and travel distances. In response to a question, he said today's
presentation provides information and options. A fire or rescue unit is on scene within 7 Y2
minutes nearly 97% of the time in the County and 96.8% of the time in Clearwater, and
93.1 % of the time in Clearwater Beach. Minimum response times for Island Estates are
met 96.6% of the time and for Sand Key are met 70% of the time for a variety of reasons.
The meeting recessed from 4:08 to 4:21 p.m.
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Mr. Booth said the County is not prepared to offer recommendations, but can
provide feedback after reviewing City recommendations. In response to a question, he said
if the County disagrees with a City determination that additional stations are needed, the
City can fund those stations. The County is allowed to review City plans for future fire
stations. The ~ounty funds 15% of the City's fire service budget. He said the current fire
service contract between the County and City recognizes the need for an additional unit.
The County may provide additional funds to enhance service during special events and high
traffic. Traffic patterns, construction projects, station locations, staffing, etc. affect
service levels.
Concern was expressed that a comment made at a City Commission meeting
indicated EMS response times to Sand Key are as high as .12 minutes with Island Estates
response times as high as 1 9 minutes. Oile member had contacted the County regarding
flexible deployment of EMS units during periods of high demand. Mr. Booth said the
County may supply service, during construction periods, etc. if the need is warranted. He
said previously, Sunstar units have not been assigned to a static location to service the
City. According to the fire service agreement, the County can subcontract services, but
the City cannot. In response to a question, he said EMS calls are marginal on Sand Key.
Factors, such as the number of high rise buildings, make it difficult to provide service
within minimum time frames. In response to a question, Mr. Booth said Sunstar fees are
the same in aU areas, but users also are billed for mileage. Compared to national charges,
this service is inexpensive. Fire Chief Herald said the $200,000 from the County to
upgrade a BLS fire engine will not fund an additional unit. He said Sand Key had 406 calls
in 1998;' while the main station answers 400 calls monthly. He said the main station has a
greater need for a backup ALS unit.
ITEM 4 - Discussion of Knoof Reoort/Citv Response - Postponed.
ITEM 5 - Miscellaneous
. Budget Director Tina Wilson said the approved capital budget is not in print. She
will distribute copies when available. She will provide fire capital information at the next
meeting.
Discuss Future Agendas
The Knopf Report will be discussed next week. Mr. Booth said the County will
review County EMS and Fire services on October 26t 1999.
ITEM 6 - Adiourn
The meeting adjourned at 4:59 p.m.
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