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09/20/1995 ..... ;. ' " , . /, , : ' " . , , ,,' . '.' : " ' : " ,~, , " :,:..' , , ' ,,' ' ,.',.~ , ' '~,' .. l'. . ' ': ~ " , ' "., ':, ':', I. : ',., r ' ' , , ' .,,' " , ' , , " ,e , , , .. ',' ,~"1" ," ", . ,~, ,. ~, ~ ..... .. e ), ...~, . k _ e .. , ' , ,'., "~'~:~4-I"';"'''''''''/I'1,~~~n;,1;I~''';~a''~':''''''''''.~,J""..,.'W-~.'~'~'''T'' '"'''': -l" .....'~~ ,L': '..'. ',. .'".,,~,;"f,' ' . ,': BAA BLDG & FLOOD Board of Adjustment & Appeal on Building & Flood Minutes' Date Ser+e~ dfJ} /CfqS /~5 / , " " , .. . \' \; , " , """-,,, .".""",',,". ..,'..", ".".':, ',' .'~,',..',.".," , ,..', , ' ' ' 'I' i':'-', . '~,' ,,' . '.. ' 1'; 'I ' . , , \ I ...- I .- " I ".. ", .. . :.. \ 'l ' ' J " , .. t:a.-.. ,1 ,I...' . ' , 1 " " , ' ',\ .. ~ . ~ BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS BUILDING/FLOOD CONTROL WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1995 Members Present: Edward (Dixie) Walker, Jr. P. J. Shaw Michael Corcoran Members Absent: John Logan, Chairperson Others Present: William Georgilas Hope Georgilas Barry Ulman George Fulmer victor C. Chodora, Assistant Director Central Permitting William (Bill) Wright, Building Construction Inspector I Vern Packer, Housing Inspector II Fred Hinson, Code Technician Mary Wood, Staff Assistant II 4~ The meeting was called to order by Edward (Dixie) Walker, Jr. at ~~? 2:10 P.M. 1) 505 Virginia Lane, Clearwater, Florida, William and Hope Georqilas, Owners. Request to bring building back to safety standards. Located in Hollingsworth Estates, Parcel #13/29/15/00000/320/0500. Mr. Bill Georgilas stated he owned this building for a number of years and had done substantial improvements in the past. He owns a city block including a restaurant. Some of the employees needed apartments, and we put the drywall up. All these things were done about three years ago so anything that the inspector has suggested for us to do, I have no problems with correcting them. As far as structural damage goes, the building has been there for about 35 or 40 years. It is a cement block building, the roof is good so what I think the building needs is aesthetical, it may need the deck torn down in the back. I had an architect come and go through the building and to take notes as to what the inspector would like done and we will include it. tJ Mr. Ulman stated the attic is relatively structurally sound. As per Mr. Wright, some of the things are not up to par and we are prepared to'correct those issues; cleaning up the exterior, moving junk, there are a couple of decks that are in disrepair. They are prepared to remove them almost in their entirety, if needed. We will restructure the stairs to meet the codes. The ceiling joists and rafters are still in the correct location. The air condition , ',~, ':' ,I,. ,I , ." ,;' .': " ~. ,~ '.. ~ . . ~' : .' . '.' ::., :, '. :,:.;, ',". " ~ ~ :.' ',"'. :..~: \',.::, ,; I, ' ,'. '. ',:, ',' ~~: '.. I ' , . j , .: '," ,: . .:'. ' .~ . ':' ,~, i, :',' \, ': ", ;' . ' .. : ." " ',: '. :""".,.",' ';.. .. ' .: .: ': ',~,,:':. ':, :', .-.., , ! ~~ '\;j Board of Adjustment and Appeals Page 2 openings will be blocked up or air conditioners put back in their place to keep out the vermin. Bill Wright stated Mr. Georgilas may have a buyer for the whole block (Mr. Georgilas said 2 or 3). He used to have an auto parts store there. The wall in question is between the kitchen and living room. Mr. Ulman will double check the beam. Mr. Wright said he needs to get permits. On June 19 we made an inspection from an anonymous complaint that they were working without permits. ' Mr. Wright was not let in the building because Mr. Georgilas was not there. He could not get in touch with Mr. Georgilas. Tried again on the 20th and on the 23rd wrote a stop Work Order because the men were still removing walls without permits and that no on~ should be living in the building (2 people were). It was zoned for commercial, motel/hotel. After no response to letters and no work being done on the property, a title search was ordered. The variance was filed by Mr. Georgilas on August 8. Mr. Chodora stated that whatever he wants to use this for he would have to come in to get permits and zoning approval. No permits have been issued nor any requests made. Mr. Shaw wanted to know if the property was occupied, and if it is, what is it being used as. Owner stated the apartment we are speaking about is empty. He has two employees who live on two other sites. Mr. Wright stated there are 3 units. It is all one building which needs to brought up to standards. It was discussed these were not apartments and the primary issue was the safety standards and zoning should be done separately. Mr. Shaw brought up the issue of the zoning, because if they are going to be delayed with the permit because of zoning, they might be back to the Board after the 90 day extension. The structure was also discussed. Mr. Ulman stated it would take a good 30 days to get the drawings put together and then the filing for permits. He stated 30 to 60 days for completion of the job. He also stated Mr. Georgilas is trying to do as little as necessary to bring it up to the present code in the event he does sell the property, not knowing what the future owner will do with the property. They will address the issues to meet the unsafe conditions. Mr. UI~an said they are safe and the main issue is the porch repairs. A motion was made to the effect that request for a variance from the unsafe standard abatement code is within the authority of this Board, we will grant an extension of 90 days to the owner, Mr. Georqilas, qualifying he must apply for permits to bring the structure up to safe conditions. Motion was seconded. All in favor. ":':_'/ .,", .,'.:,'>.',':'.:.',.',.,::'?,'::;.,~'~;:..,':',:,:~:'~" '~, ',,>',',:':,':,~:,'\':'.":<,,' .';', '''...,,',',', ,..:.:", "".,::'. " , . , ' , '.' .::';.,..':..'....,~". ',~ "., ,,;',. 'r-1' " ' 'c:"'" ' .....:..J",. . , ,,', ',' ' " .:' .', ,,' " t ' I" I' .." , , ~' " , '. , ~,' . " ',~ " ~ " \~'," , " :"."'.~"""'."""l' .,":"...l',,'" '~"'" ~", ,',,:; '; ',:.",,':,;.'.1:..'.. I""~."":~ .",'" '\l~", "":'l"~'<" ::' ~'\,:\:,~:, ":,..':'~.', ...'.'..':..". ....,',,';.I:..i '.:,",\ ' Board of Adjustment and Appeals I~ Page 3 i 2) 534-544 South Fort Harrison Avenue, Clearwater, Florida, Jorge and Gladys Parra, owners. Request extension because they do not have the money to do the repairs within this short period of time. Located in A.C. Turners Add. , Parcel #16/29/15/92592/001/0031. Mr. Walker asked if the owners were present. They were not here. No on was here to represent the case. Mr. Packer stated that he had not heard from Mr. and Mrs. Perra since they filed for the appeal. Vern Packer discussed the aspects of this case. The tenants made complaints regarding the unsafe conditions and work being done without permits. The tenants have since moved. only certain particulars on this building were cited, the stairways, landings, and the steel is rusted out. The owners were told about the permit process, due to them having work done without permits. The downstairs commercial offices are a problem. The stairways and landings are unsafe. It was stated that lack of money is not one of the hardships that this comes under. The disrepair of the fire escapes and landings were again discussed. ~,:;,:,~ ,...'u " Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone here to speak regarding the extension? George Fulmer of the property due north came to the meeting to find what was going on at the property. . He has an access at the back that he cannot get to. He stated the roof was done without a permit and the canopy blew off during a storm. Also, the lots were overgrown. He just came to find out what was going on with the property. The extension was discussed and what would be next if it was turned down. vie Chodora recommended to turn down the extension because of their lack of interest in doing anything. The next avenue would be to prepare a case for the Code Enforcement Board and if again nothing is done and the Code Enforcement Board is in our favor, we will go for demolition. We don't want to do anything right now because the conditions are not that bad. Vern Packer thinks the owners are living in the building. He doesn't think the rental units are too bad, but the structural conditions are causing problems. Mr. Shaw stated the Board denies the variance based upon the following: a) b) They have been notified since July and have no s~own any response. They have been negligent not to even be present and plead their case and ask for an extension with hardship reasons. t'>~ ~ "'" \. ;"'j:"'\': ;' '''.:,.'1' .", ~':""'" ,\":: :,.': '+", ;' '/'~,"',,\~ 't'~' :,+ '."" ,I' ".'1'1' ,\""', ,:,' ':',1,',' ,.,i":\ "t,.',\' 11,', .:I....,,~ .:,j" " :,'_' .', " ",' ,)1'.,".".."1""'\'-"'" :""" ',' -,",,'" '" ~,' ',"("~ ,,' ',',' ,:""~,'I\""',,,-,!,,::,,::,,:,,.',,":',".>:' "::, \,~'",.:"". " ", . " ",,' '.,;, 'I " , , I, ...,." ," ' '-', ,,' U . '. . "" , ~ ,. ,t, ..\. .1 ' 1:1... I , . , ' '1 , Mr. Corcoran seconded the motion. Board of Adjustment and Appeals ,"""" Page 4 , , """') .,....., 1"\ o Mr. Walker stated the motion has been made and seconded. All were in favor. 3) 1003 LaSalle Street, Clearwater, Florida, Milton P. Rooks requesting an extension because the property is not deeded to him yet. No representatives of Mr. Rooks were here, but a letter was brought to the office today stating on October 31, 1995 he would make a possible deposition and that he is trying to sell the property. He would like an extension until October 31, 1995 to determine what is going to happen. Vern Packer introduced Fred Hinson of the Community Response Team (CRT). Mr. Hinson works in the North Greenwood area. They are currently surveying some of the properties up there. This case was turned over to Vern Packer by the community Response Team after they did a survey. Fred Hinson of the community Response Team stated he started with this property in May of 1995. According to other inspectors, the property has been a problem for a number of years. The first time he walked into the structure on the property, he fell through the floor. There are 8 vacant units (4 buildings) and you can look right through the roof in some of them. Mr. Rooks is trying to sell the property and get premo dollars. The CRT has tried to help him out by referring him to different agencies that he may be able to sell to and put up low income housing. He hasn't shown any signs of being willing to work with them. It was discussed that these units are beyond rehabilitation. The last tenants were sent notices to evict because of the living conditions. Mr. Packer has photos of the units that were taken in 1993. The demolition was discussed. It would probably cost the same if the city or the builder paid for the demolition. Liens were discussed. It was stated that Mr. Rooks is a real estate agent. All the paperwork has been sent to Mr. Rooks and all the utilities were shut off. A title search has been done by Sexton Title. The only thing Mr. Rooks has indicated was this extension and the fact that the property is for sale. Also, the title has passed to Mr. Rooks. Clearwater Neighborhood Housing is interested in obtaining the property from Mr. Rooks, but he is asking premium dollars for the property. Mr. Shaw denied the variance based upon the City staffs' report and recommendations. Mr. Corcoran seconded. All were in favor. The motion was carried and the request denied. ~ ~ Edward Walker,