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CIVIL SERVICE BOARD
CITY OF CLEARWATER
October 10. 1995
Present:
John Doran
Sydney Snair
Annette Patterson
Mike Laursen
Leslie A. Dougall-Sides
,Gwen Legters
Chair
Board Member
Board Member
Human Resources Director
Assistant City Attorney
Board Reporter
Absent:
Bill Carozza
Mary Drew Kane
Board Member
Board Member
The meeting was called to order by the Chair at 5:00 p.m. in City Hall.
To provide continuity for research, Items are listed in agenda order although not
necessarily discussed In that order.
Approval of Minutes M July 19, 1995
Member Snair moved to approve the minutes of July 19, 1995, according to copies
submitted to each board member in writing. The motion was duly seconded and carried
unanimously.
Public Hearing - Change to Civil Service Rule 13 (Sick Leave and Maternity Leavel
.Mr. Laursen stated, at the direction of the City Manager, a Notice to Interested Parties
was posted concerning the change to Civil Service Rule 13, Section 2 and Section 9. This
amendment is to various provisions of the sick leave policy to provide consistency in sick
leave usage, accrual rate, and sick leave caps and to provide parity between union and non-
union City employees. The amendment will also bring the rule into compliance with the
Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) by removing the distinction between personal and
family sick leave. He distributed copies of an addendum to the proposed amendment.
Mr. Laursen detailed the reductions in sick leave accruals and caps. He stated union
representatives agreed to the changes during negotiations, and the City Manager had effected
similar changes for unclassified managerial employees with employment agreement letters.
He indicated the accruals and caps for non-union employees were based on the same
calculations as those in the comparable bargaining unit.
Sam Willi, Richard Evans. and Gordon Yaudes, District Chiefs in the Clearwater Fire
Department, objected to the amendment. They expressed concern with the effect this
amendment will have on the six people in their position. It was indicated they do not have
union representation or City contracts, and the Civil Service Rules are their only protection.
They stated the ability to accumulate sick leave and be paid for half those days on retirement
were benefits they had as a condition of their employment. They expressed concern that
~ limiting and capping sick leave accrual violates this condition of employment.
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It was indicated instances of sick leave abuse prompted this action. The District Chiefs
strongly objected to capping the number of sick leave hours an employee may accrue and use for
actual sick leave purposes during their employment. As an alternative, they urged the City to
consider establishing a separate limit for the amount of sick leave paid to an employee at
retirement.
Mr. Willi indicated he has worked in the Fire Department for 24 years. He said he
understands that sick leave abuse exists on every level. He did not feel it was appropriate to
penalize the District Chiefs who do a superior job and use very little of their sick leave.
Mr. Evans stated he has worked in the Fire Department more than 22 years and will retire
soon. He indicated he and the other District Chiefs took their jobs with the City because of the
promised benefits. He said they could have made much more money in the private sector over
the last 20 years. He felt they were penalized as a result of doing an outstanding job. He noted
the cap would create a reason to use more sick days. He also pointed out it costs the City more
than just a day's pay for one person when a District Chief calls in sick. He said five percent acting
pay is paid each day to peoples of lesser ranks who are required to move up to fill in for a missing
district chief.
Mr. Laursen responded the conditions of employment are not static and cited various
examples of the generous benefits paid by the City. He stressed that the City attempted to avoid
penalizing long term employees by slowing down the accrual rate over a period of several years
rather than reducing caps on existing employees. The purpose of the amendment is to establish
consistency so all employees can be treated essentially the same, depending on their hire date.
He pointed out the amendment will affect the entire group of 75 to 80 union exempt SAMP
employees, not just six District Chiefs. He disagreed with the assertion that non-union employees
have no voice because a representative of the SAMP group was present during pension
negotiations. In addition, the City Manager or her designees have met with employees and given
them opportunities to offer input over the past few years.
Clarification was requested concerning the Board's role in the teday's hearing. Mr. Laursen
stated the Board is not negotiating benefits, but acting in an advisory capacity, either
recommending modification of the rule amendment, or endorsing implementation as proposed.
The City Manager will decide if to act on the Board's recommendation.
Clarification was requested and discussion ensued regarding the calculations outlined in the
existing Civil Service Rules for caps on sick leave accruals. The District Chiefs expressed surprise
the caps are already in place. They stated they had not been informed and were under the
impression the issue was awaiting action by the City Manager. Mr. Laursen explained the cap on
fire service personnel was changed on February 14, 1994 when the rules were last amended. He
stated a separate matter awaiting action by the City is the SAMP manual for District Chiefs
which will consolidate and summarize a variety of issues, including benefits.
Mr. Yaudes stated he has only taken three sick days in 19 years with the City Fire
Department. He questioned if his accumulated sick leave would be cut if he earned a promotion to
an unclassified position. Mr. Laursen stated it would not be cut, but could be stopped at the point
of the promotion. Mr. Laursen cited examples of other employees having to choose whether to
accept a promotion with fewer benefits. It was not known how Mr. Yaudes' current sick leave
cap compares to the Fire Chief's. .
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In response to a request from Mr. Evans, Mr. Laursen is to provide copies of the new Civil Service
Rules to all six District Chiefs. ' .'
The three District Chiefs left the meeting at 5:55 p.m.
Member Patterson thanked the firefighters for their dedication and the service they perform. General
agreement was expressed the firefighters are great people.
Discussion resumed regarding the information obtained at the meeting, Concern was expressed
that the District Chiefs were not notified or given copies of the February 14, 1994 changes to the
Civil Service Rules. It was indicated the City representative of the SAMP group in union
negotiations or their department director should have informed them.
Member Snair moved to recommend adoption of the proposed amendment to Civil Service Rule 13
Section 2, with the addendum submitted by Mr. Laursen. The motion was duly seconded and
carried unanimously.
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D. Old Business
Member Snair expressed concern with the time it has taken to establish local hearing officers and
questioned the status of the effort. Mr. Laursen said the Legal Department received the names of
ten people interested in serving as local hearing officers in response to advertising in journals. The
City Attorney indicated she was not comfortable recommending all ten applicants to the City
Commission. The City Commission suggested that she conduct interviews to determine if the
applicants meet the qualifications and would be viable as local hearing officers.' Mr. Laursen said
Ms. Akin has conducted many interviews trying to fill two positions on her staff. He felt the hearing
officer interviews would be back on track soon. Staff was requested to relay the Board's concern to
the City Attorney and'provide a time frame for complying with the request.
E. Other Items for Board Discussion
Discussion ensued regarding Board attendance. It was indicated Mr. Carroza is at home recovering
from his recent illness and Ms. Kane has had illness in her family.
F. Employees I Citizens to be Heard - None
G. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 6: 10 p.m.
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