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PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
CITY OF CLEARWATER
September 23, 1996
Present:
Charles Weaver
Donald Harris
William Kirbas
Gary Giordano
Gary Meritt
Larry Lindner
Freda Clayton
Ream Wilson
Art Kader
Steve Miller
Patricia O. Sullivan, for
Gwen Legters
Chair
Vice Chair
Board Member
Board Member
Board Member
Board Member
Board Member
Parks and Recreation Director
Parks and Recreation Assistant Director
Recreation Superintendent
Board Reporter
Board Reporter
The Chair called meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. in City Hall.
To provide continuity, the items Bre listed in agenda order although not necessarily
discussed In that order.
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Minutes Approval ~- August 26, 1996
Member Harris moved to approve the minutes as submitted in writing to each member
by the Board Reporter. The motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously.
Correspondence
Member Weaver read into the record an excerpt of a letter from the Wood Valley
Community Advisory Board, thanking the City for upgrading the Wood Valley Recreation
Center. The residents were pleased with the quality of the work, and individually
acknowledged the involved staff members and the improvements performed.
Presentation -- City Beach Cleaning Program -~ Ozell George, Parks Superintendent
Mr. Wilson introduced Mr. George, stating he has been with the City for 30 years, and
is in charge of the division responsible for grounds maintenance on all City-owned
properties. Mr. George gave a slide presentation profiling the beach cleaning operation,
highlighting what is involved in cleaning up seaweed and debris under extraordinary and
routine conditions. It was indicated property owners sometimes complain when the beach
is not cleaned up quickly, but the timing can be difficult due to the need to schedule
cleanings during low tides, when crowds are light, and after daybreak during turtle nesting
season. When seaweed deposits are very heavy, a Department of Natural Resources
permit is required to bring large equipment onto the beach. Seaweed is raked up, loaded
on flatbed trucks, and dumped on vacant City land to dry, then hauled to the landfill.
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Mr. George explained design and operation of the beach rake and related equipment
used for routine daily cleaning. He illustrated how a farm type tractor tows the rake,
collecting debris that is moved by conveyor belt into collection buckets. With the rake,
one person can clean in an hour, what formerly took ten people four hours to do manually.
The entire beach can be cleaned in a matter of hours when it is not turtle nesting season,
or when seaweed deposits are not too heavy. During turtle nesting season, from May
through October, no equipment is allowed above the high water mark. All the soft sand,
especially along the seawalls, must be cleaned manually. The parking lots and landscaped
islands are cleaned daily. When the beach is not littered, Mr. George said they fluff up the
sand to make it look nice for the day. He displayed a slide of the way he likes for the
beach to look when the crew is finished at 9:00 a.m.
Mr. George displayed and explained slides of solid waste disposal equipment and
procedures, comparing the labor savings of using this equipment versus performing the
operations manually. He explained the equipment enables the work to be done with fewer
personnel, creating a more professional public image.
Mr. George will be responsible for maintenance of the sand and grassy areas when the
new Pier 60 Park pavilions open. He indicated concern because of sand blown by the
northwesterly winds. Mr. Wilson agreed it will be a high maintenance park. He explained
the proposed use of the pavilions by thousands of beach visitors, stating staff will learn
more about what kind of maintenance is involved after the park opens. In response to
questions, Mr. George did not anticipate adding more personnel yet.
One member expressed concern with public nuisance and health concerns associated
with deteriorating seaweed and red tide debris in areas the City does not clean, north of
Sommarset Drive. Concern was expressed with ongoing controversy regarding whether
ultimate responsibility belongs to the adjacent property owners, the City or State.
Mr. Wilson explained the City owns stretches of beach from the Adam's Mark hotel, north
to Sommerset Drive, in the vicinity of the public parking lots and the 60-foot wide public
accessways. The Parks division is charged with cleaning these areas because they are the
primary sites used by tourists. In the commercial and residential areas not cleaned by the
City, he recommended frequent cleaning by the property owners as a means of avoiding
heavy accumulation and the associated smell. The member complained heavy seaweed
deposits as described above are too much for a typical homeowner to handle. Mr. Wilson
acknowledged it was an extremely hard winter in terms of seaweed accretion, but the best
way to handle the problem is to remove and dispose of the debris.
In response to questions, Mr. George stated he has received calls from various
citizens, and one large commercial contractor, interested in obtaining the seaweed for
organic gardening. Systems are available to get rid of the salt. While Mr. Wilson
expressed his willingness to work with anyone interested in using the seaweed, he did not
feel a large market is likely to develop. Mr. George pointed out it is a problem to find
vacant land on which to stack and store the seaweed, because of the odor. Very little
vacant land exists without homes nearby.
Board members thanked Mr. George for an informative presentation.
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Upcoming Recreation Events -- Report by Steve Miller
Mr. Miller distributed handouts highlighting programs and events scheduled for
October. He called attention to: 1) Women's Fall Tennis Classic, October 11-14;
2) Times Turkey Trot Track Team Meets, October 8 and 29; 3) City Expo at Clearwater
Mall, October 19; 4) School's Out camps on October 18; and 5) Halloween festivities at
neighborhood recreation centers. He invited anyone with questions to call him at
562-4800.
National Recreation and Parks Association Video -- Steve Miller
Mr. Miller presented a ten~minute videotape produced by the National Recreation and
Parks Association to kick off their national campaign, IiMarketing the Benefits of Parks and
Recreation. ' In the past, he said the City marketed recreation according to the available
features. The video emphasized how development of balance, social and motor skills
through recreation activities strengthens family ties, combats stress, improves the
community by averting destructive and antisocial behavior, and improves self esteem by
developing individual talents. The video detailed how quality of life is improved through
recreational, fitness, and relaxation activities, parks and open space. Economic statistics
show parks and recreation programs attract small business and jobs, enhance workforce
productivity, save healthcare costs, and attract tourism dollars. Environmental benefits of
parks and open space balance pressures of new growth and expanding urban populations,
protect and enhance the natural environment, create habitats for wildlife, promote air and
water purification and flood control, buffer noise, and make urban communities more
livable. Incorporating parks and recreation into, our lives is essential to preserving natural
resources, living together in harmony, stimulating the economy, and enhancing our health
and vitality.
In response to a question, Mr. Miller said at least 90 percent of the activities illustrated
in the video are available through City participation, A question was raised regarding the
economic impacts of professional, semi-professional, and amateur sports tournaments.
Mr. Miller said he is tracking activities in which the City is involved. The information being
gathered will be summarized at the end of the fiscal year and shared with the board. He
said the numbers are impressive, seeming to indicate t.he money invested in recreation is
balanced by economic return to the City.
Old BusJness
A. Schedule for Public Hearing Reaardina Name for Park on Sand Kev
Mr. Wilson distributed copies of correspondence with the Sand Key Association
rogarding their proposal for park name, scheduled for public hearing at the October 28
Parks and Recreation Board meeting. They have recommended the name, Bay Park on
Sand Key. In response to a question, he said that is the only name submitted for board
consideration.
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B. Skateboard Ordinance
Mr. Wilson stated the City Commission has denied approval of two proposed
ordinances and no further action is scheduled. The City Commission may wish to see
what happens when the Pinel1as Trail opens through Clearwater. A question was raised
regarding whether a skateboard park could be created and set aside to satisfy this need.
Mr. Wilson stated he received correspondence from a Countryside resident explaining how
the City of Huntington Beach, California had adopted an ordinance prohibiting skateboards
downtown, but had created special skateboard areas replicating features of the downtown
streetscape on which skateboarders liked to perform. Mr. Wilson said he discussed the
issue with the Huntington Beach Director of Parks and Recreation, who said their three
skateboard areas were very successful, but they had not pursued more advanced
skateboarding areas due to liability concerns. Mr. Wilson will investigate and provide more
information whether the public school system is interested in pursuing skateboard areas.
C. St. Petersburg Junior College (SPJC) Fields
Mr. Wilson indicated he has received no further information from SPJC regarding their
plans for the fields.
D. Fountain at Pier 60
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In response to questions at the last meeting, Mr. Wilson investigated the possibility of
creating an interactive fountain at Pier 60 Park. He said the fountain in Largo has been
cordoned off so people will not use it. He contacted a fountain manufacturer in
Jacksonville, Florida and reported the cost to construct an interactive fountain starts at
$48,000 to $50,000. It was indicated the fountain in Atlanta's Olympic Village had cost
about $2.8 million. Mr. Wilson indicated the problems created by the aforementioned
blowing sand at Pier 60 would create a maintenance nightmare for ground level fountain
jets. If the board wishes to pursue such a proposal, he recommended looking at ways to
incorporate it into plans for the Clearwater beach aquatics park. One member suggested a
cooling overhead mist area as an alternative. Mr. Wilson will investigate.
E. Soft Tennis Courts
Mr. Wilson compared soft and hard surfaces, stating staff is gathering information. If
the board recommends construction of soft courts, $150,000 is budgeted in FY 1998/99
that could be directed from racquetball to soft courts. He distributed two handouts
detailing information comparing court surfaces and annual maintenance costs.
Krishnan Anandan, McMullen Complex contract tennis instructor, stated maintenance
cost is the primary concern with clay courts. Welsh Construction, the leading soft court
builder in this area, has been able to cut annual maintenance costs from $2,500 to $500
by installing underground sprinklers. Average construction cost of a lighted clay court is
about $25,000. If the decision is made to build clay courts, Mr. Anandan recommended
construction of at least ten to twelve courts, for a total cost of about $300,000. These
soft courts would be in addition to the existing hard courts. He felt this number would be
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Mr. Wilson expressed mixed emotions regarding soft courts. While they have many
advantages, he said they require frequent attention throughout the day. He pointed out
some people could misconstrue installation of soft courts as an attempt to compete with
private clubs. One member observed the McMullen courts are usually crowded, especially
during prime time, while many other tennis courts throughout the City are frequently
deserted. He stated the City may wish to research usage and rethink the marketing
strategy of courts throughout the system. Ouestions were raised regarding available land
area at McMullen, and the need to proportionately increase associated facilities such as
parking and locker rooms.
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needed to handle the influx of people who are likely to be competing for soft court time,
including approximately 1,100 former Bardmoor visitors. In response to a question, he
said the City would be justified in charging more for clay court usage.
General discussion ensued regarding a two-page matrix from The Fast~Dry Companies,
comparing the factors involved in surface irrigated versus sub.surface irrigated courts, the
cost and amount of supplies and equipment, maintenance, and water usage for soft
courts. Mr. Anandan stated about 90% of the cost of court maintenance is for water.
Considering the matrix figures, one member calculated 193,450 gallons of water would be
used for sub-surface irrigation annually. She questioned whether the City would be willing
to pursue the issue in view of water costs and conservation concerns. One member
pointed out the City could drill a water well, but Mr. Wilson indicated reclaimed water use
would likely be preferable. He will check with the landscaping section regarding the water
use calculations.
One member stated significant interest has been expressed by citizens wishing to play
on clay courts and willing to participate in funding. Mr. Anandan affirmed he has heard
from many people expressing a similar interest. particularly former Bardmoor customers.
He felt it was likely private monies could be available to build the courts. He was
requestod to coordinate discussions with staff and interested members of the public about
the possibility of entering a public/private partnership. Mr. Wilson said he would be happy
to meet and discuss the issue with anyone wishing to make a verbal or written proposal.
General discussion ensued regarding considerations involved in leasing City property.
F. McMullen Tennis Courts Resurfacina
One member indicated hairline cracks on courts 1 through 8 are getting worse and
questioned whether these courts are on unstable ground. While the cracks do not interfere
with ball play, they look bad for the upcoming tournaments. General discussion ensued
regarding condition of the courts. It was indicated resurfacing is budgeted for
FY 1996/97. Mr. Wilson said they are reluctant to proceed with resurfacing before the
reason for the cracking is known. He assured the board he is investigating the issue with
the City Engineering Department and the resurfacing will be done when the proper
approach is determined.
Mr. Wilson thanked Mr. Anandan for an exceptional job coaching the successful tennis
instruction program.
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New Business
A. Parks and Beach Ordinance
Mr. Wilson distributed copies of the agenda item regarding this issue, stating he has
worked with the Police Department and the City Attorney to amend the ordinance. He
explained the current code does not allow for consistent enforcement of certain activities,
citing walking dogs on the beach in Sand Key Park as an example. He pointed out the
code prohibits dog walking on the beach, but allows leashed dog walking in parks. The
proposed amendment would enable the City Manager to post signs prohibiting certain
activities in situations where health, safety or welfare concerns existed. Discussion
ensued regarding this and other examples of unenforceable signs and rules. Staff
recommended endorsement of the amendment giving the City Manager authority to decide
when and where it is in the public interest to prohibit certain activities.
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While concern was expressed with any attempt to issue blanket prohibitions,
Mr. Wilson felt the City Manager would likely review each case individually and make her
decision based on input from City staff and police. Another member requested specific
language in the ordinance to ensure each situation is viewed on a case by case basis.
Mr. Wilson directed attention to the ordinance draft in a packet of information provided to
board members, stating they were welcome to recommend text changes. He has pulled
first reading of this item off the next City Commission agenda to allow time for board
input. While most board members approved the amendment in concept, they wished to
have their concern regarding enforcement, safeguards, and case by case review
incorporated into the final draft before recommending approval., Discussion ensued
regarding suggested language. As two members had not received copies of the
information packet, Mr. Wilson suggested continuing this item to the next meeting for
board review and recommendation of specific language he can take back to the City
Attorney.
B. Informational ProQram for October Meetino
One member suggested an overview of the remaining recreational opportunities not
already covered by previous presentations. Mr. Wilson said the remaining sections are
1) Recreation Facilities such as athletic fields, programs, maintenance and use, and
2) Administration review by Administrative Support Manager Jon Russell, regarding
economic impact of Parks and Recreation programs. Consensus was to schedule review
of recreation facilities. Mr. Miller agreed, suggesting a presentation of the contract
instructor program might be interesting for a future meeting. General discussion ensued
regarding the myriad of public properties the City maintains, and gathering of statistical
information regarding resident/non residential usage, and budgetary concerns.
Board Comments
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Member Clayton noted no improvements or changes have been made to the
information kiosk at Clearwater Mall. She reiterated her request from a previous meeting
for staff to investigate downloading more detailed street maps to the recreation centers.
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Mr. Miller explained the diHiculties with updating the 68 pages of information contained in
the kiosk, stating he is working with the City's Information Management group to correct a
hardware problem. He suggested referring to the new leisure services guide for the type of
detailed information requested at the kiosk. He said the software program was written by
a private outside company and he did not know if it was possible to scan in detailed maps.
He will investigate and report at the next meeting.
Member Kirbas expressed concern with the addition of certain elements he said were
not included in the original plans for Pier 60. He specifically cited the large number of
palm trees he felt will obscure the view of the Gulf as they mature, and the railing around
the pavilion that obstructs visitors from gathering around all sides of the pavilion. He
reported he received a complaint that the playground equipment is too close to the
sidewalk. Mr. Wilson said playground equipment is measured for adequate separation from
surrounding structures to ensure safe drop zones. He will investigate the sidewalk
concern.
Member Kirbas announced the Clearwater Beach Association is having its annual
Oktoberfest on October 26 from 4:00 to 8:00 p.m. at the Clearwater Beach Recreation
Center.
Member Weaver reported a serious ant problem around playground equipment at
several parks, including Morningside, Coachman Ridge, and Crest Lake. He also reported
many of the plastic slides are in a deteriorated condition, with cracked plastic and bent
support columns. Mr. Wilson will follow up on these reports.
Member Lindner noted participant cards are valid for one calendar year and questioned
whether the cost of obtaining a non resident card is prorated toward the end of the year.
Mr. Miller stated the cost is not prorated. Near the end of the year, it is recommended for
individuals to calculate the non-participant costs of their particular activities and decide
whether it is more cost effective to pay per visit or to pay full price for a participant card.
A former program to offer a /llast quarter" card was discontinued due to lack of
participation. The sports programs offer a single season card for $33. In response to a
questions, Mr. Wilson stated half and quarter year participant cards were offered in the
beginning of the program, but sales were so small, the partial year cards were
discontinued. As most people participate in only one or two activities, it usually costs less
for them to pay per visit. While he agreed a small number of people may request
prorating, the demand has not been great enough to merit making an exception.
Member Lindner mentioned an article in the Clearwater section of the St. Petersburg
Times that seemed to indicate people prefer a fitness trail over a fitness court so they can
walk or jog between stations. He questioned whether the City has investigated the public
preference. Mr. Wilson briefly reviewed the advantages and disadvantages of each,
stating more vandalism occurs along a trail because much of it is out of sight. He will look
at this concern if another installation is considered. Mr. Lindner expressed concern with
the Crest lake fitness court sitting out in the sun, and urged installation of a water
fountain. Member Weaver referred to previous discussion indicating board members
thought the water fountain at the restroom was sufficient. Mr. Wilson will investigate.
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Member Lindner noted bicycle lanos' have been included along the new Sunset Point
Road expansion. He wished to encourage the City, State and County to incorporate bike
lanes into existing wide boulevards and future road expansion projects whenever feasible.
Mr. Wilson stated Parks and Recreation Administrative Support Manager John Russell is
chair of the City Manager's committee appointed to evaluate bike trail connections with
the Pinelles Trail, Clearwater beach, etc. Mr. Wilson will convey the board's interest to
the committee, which is holding its first meeting next week.
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Member Clayton questioned the City Manager's September 16 letter stating it is not
appropriate for advisory board members to wear or display political campaign materials
during meetings of boards on which the members serve. Member Clayton Questioned
whether the letter was a request or a demand. Mr. Wilson read the letter into the record,
stating it seems to be a directive. Members Clayton and Harris expressed concern the
directive may restrict members' right to freedom of speech and requested an opinion from
the City Attorney. Mr. Wilson will forward the members' concern to the City Attorney's
office.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 8:26 p.m.
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