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12/14/1993 . '~.' , .. OR_ .'" . -"'.1 I' , " '~ . . , , , " ~''''''~'")'-~.~.~..:. ~.". 'NAC ,: . , ~.- ~.' - . 'It ?~II'A -Miftltt~J I Neighborhood Advisory Committee . DATE 1~-Ic.(..f3 . -f- / 3 S . I . ~. ' . '. .. . )- ". '. ~. <'.,' i. .' .... ~.:. " ~'''i.~/}''~lY ~'. "!(',-'I..>...{:,~ 'I~~ '~": .,l':-.". " .. . ." ,.dt. '. ~< ~.' .' '~. ' . - ' '". ,". . . .t.... ,": . .: . '': '''~ .'....:: .' .. ..' ~ '. ,> ; ; , ',~......~) :~) '...... AGENDA CLEARWATER NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COMMITTEE 113tl1 REGULAR MEETING CITY HALL ANNEX - DRe CONFERENCE ROOM 10 S. MISSOURI A VENUE TUESDAY, DECEMBER 14, 1993 7:30 P,M. :.,.. . 1. Call to Order 2. Distribution of NAC/CD NOTEBOOKS 3. A. Farewell to NAC member - Fred Infinger B. Welcome to new NAC mcmber - Jon Gammage 4. Approval of minutes of previolls meetIng. 0 5. . Presentation of FY 92/93 Grantee Performance Rcport 6. Amendment of FY 92/93 Final Statement 7. Amendment of FY 93/94 Final Statement 8. Presentation of Foreclosure Pol icy 9. Presentation of Demolition Program 10. Old Business Discussion II. New Business Discussion 12. Adjourn L:\DA T A\CDO\NACDEC.AGD November 29, 1993 , . 1: ~ , ',,'" . . .. .: ... . . , . r.;:,,"(. ' , ' :';": . .. , " '.' , . "l~ ,;. .. . , ,"" <' , " .... ' , W;','r.J I,''f'o,t',.." .~" M ,.r ~ . .. Ie' . I'. " . ~" . ,..,.. ," ..j,\'!5.1 NAC , . , ' , . /9,~ncflf ~hialt:~ Neighborhood Advisory Committee DATE I:J. - 1'1- f.! -/,-/?;S-- , . , , ~ ~. .;J.... ~c:: " l\ ~, .' ,"\ l. 2. 3. , ......... 4. ' '1 ,.,,-/ 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. <.' .. .,>.-,.."tIj AGENDA CLEARWATER NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COMMITTEE 113tl1 REGULAR MEETING CITY HALL ANNEX - DRC CONFERENCE ROOM 10 S. MISSOURI A VENUE TUESDA Yt DECEMBER 14, 1993 7:30 P.M, Call to Order Distribution of NAC/CD NOTEBOOKS A. Farewell to NAC member ~ Fred Infinger B. Welcome to new NAC member - Jon Gammage Approval of minutes of previous meeting. Presentation of FY 92193 Grantee Performance Report Amendment of FY 92/93 Final Statement Amendment of FY 93/94 Final Statement Presentation of Foreclosure Policy Presentation of Demolition Program Old Business Discussion New Business Discussion Adjourn L:\DAT A\CDO\NACDEC .AGD November 29, 1993 , '--.) ~,.:" . , , , , '; Ie, ' " , <t=: ... , ' ~ ~: :;' . ~ e . ~, ,T , f~'~:~;;", . " ::~-: j' . 'i". ' '.. ; , '( \.) ;. . " . <,' I <,: " , '. " , , " ~.:{....,.'t...........~ oj."q.; ,e~'T ~ , '.' :. " : ' NAC I:," ,,' . " ' I'.. . .'. 1- "." C,' ' 1::<.:- I,.' . . , Minutes Neighborhood Advisory Committee DATE /.J--/v- f~ . -1- /3/ . \. . / ' . ~ 'II> .. ( .. . I ~', ,.m " "~.. ;~~) 'J CLEARWATER NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COMMITTEE 113th Regular Meeting December 14, 1993 Clearwater City Hall Annex DRe Conference Room MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE Cherry Harris Ralph Linn Rudy Miller, Vice Chrmn Richard Hinseher Willie Brewton Thomas Brooks John Gammage (P) (A) (P) (A) (P) (P) ,(P) ! Milly Joplin Fred Infinger Robert Mitchell Darrell Collins, Chairman Mary Heard Tina Pimenidis (A) (A) resigned (A) (P) (P) (P) Others present: James Polatty, Michael Holmes, Pat Fernandez, all of City, Lois Cormier, Vernel Brown and Eloise Whitlock, residents. ' 1. The meeting was called to order at 7:40 pm by Darrell Collins. 2. 3. 4. 5. Michael Holmes explained the distribution ohhe NAC/CD handbooks was to aid new members on this committee as well as explaining the NAC purpose of giving recommendation to expend CDSG funds. These books will help them get started by giving them accessibility to policy, minutes, etc. If members wish city staff who will bring them to each meeting. A motion was made by Willie Brewton and seconded' by Cherry Harris to approve the minutes of the October 12, 1993. Motion carried. NAC members and city staff welcomed new members. The two most recent members are Tina Pimenidis and John Gammage. Michael Holmes presented the Amendment of FY 92/93 Final Statement. He explained our classifications were being changed to match HUD requirements. Cherry Harris expressed surprise that the monies had not been totally spent. 6. Jim Polatty did an overview of the Amendment of FY 93/94 Final Statement with changes necessitated due to a new dementien program. There was considerable discussion about a separate list for four Clearwater police officers to have homes built in Greenwood by waiving the income requirement and giving them the benefit of low interest, etc. Some felt it was discrimination for 1 . I .'" . ~' f . _'0'." ". <,.~ one group of citizens and some folt it might possibly work as a crime deterrent. Under HUD rules we could claim the polica would constitute an area benefit. Some members felt it was inappropriate for anyone to move ahead of others already on the list and that any individual should abide by the present rules and wtlit his/her time on the list. Tom Brooks made a motion seconded by Rudy Miller that there be one new homes list and everyone on that list would wait along with everyone else for loan approval. There will be no preference given to Police Officers. The motion was approved and had one nay vote from Mr. Gammage. The Facade program was discussed. Problems with businesses having their share of monies to change the building appearance to Carribean style was discussed. The value of renderings was covered as many people cannot image how something would look without a visual aid. John Gammage made a motion to increase the facade improvement project for $ 1 0,000 and the $ 1 0,000 increase will be used as a grant for the architectural renderings for the businesses. The motion was seconded by Cherry Harris, The motion carried. I,,~;'} An overview of the new foreclosure policy with the City Commission approving each case was discussed. The size of the loan portfolio as well as when a foreclosure kicks in was covered in detail. A motion was made by Rudy Miller and seconded by Willie Brewton to approve the 92/93 and 93/94 Final Statement. Jim Polatty described the new demolition program advising such action is either voluntary or involuntary. Liens are not forgiven and therefore we need to foreclose promptly or we can lose our investment in a property. 7. Jim gave out the reconciled packet of information on the GPR 8. In response to an advertised public hearing on the GPR, lois Cormier, resident citizen, reported an incident on flooding on Harbor Drive which she feels this agency should review. Pat Lafferty put her belongings in the garage several days following her closing when a sudden rain storm came which resulted in wt]ter coming from the street into the garage ruining many of her belongings. Jim Polatty reported that Leo Schrader, Risk Management, was investigating this as well, however their view pending further study, is that this is not a Community Development problem, but an unfortunate incident in which the City is not liable for an 'act of God'. It was pointed out Pat wanted to buy a house, selected the plan, chose the tot and built to City code. She was advised y 2 , . . ~,' . , . ~ . . " '. , . , ,.'-..... to buy flood insurance and did so. We do not know if it includes contants but are aware it covers the building and not the garage. Mr. Polatty drew an illustration of the flood plain to show everyone what had happenod. He also advised Pat Lafferty is a part-time permanent City employee and works occasionally on week-ends part-time at Republic Parking for Pat Fernandez' husbclnd as a parking lot attendant on Clearwater Beach. Prior to loan closing Pat was required to go to some classes. Some committee members felt that by being required to obtain flood insurance she had to know thore was a problem and others folt she should have been specifically advised that the garage floor was below the flood plain and therefore nothing should be kept there. \ ._,.J Pat Lafferty submitted a list to Economic Development and is requesting $2,500. to cover her loss. John Eastern, a city insurance agent has denied her claim stating the city is not liable for an 'act of God'. Lois Cormier presented us with a memo dated 8/26/93 from Bill Baker to Mike Wright informing the Manager's office of the flooding problem on Harbor Drive. A review showed the home was built to code. Mike Holmes as a former insurance agent said an agent is not required to give a worst case scenario to a client and it is up to the insured to read their own policy. The NAC members pointed out only one among them had read their policy and they felt the City had an obligation to assist a first time home buyer by covering all eventualities with them. Jim suggested members wait until Leo Schrader finished his review and reached a decision. They however felt we were getting one side oJ the issue and we needed to hear from the individual. Furthermore they were in1erested in the history as one member advised there have been drainage problems since the 70"s. Ms. Harris advised her driveway is frequently covered with water which requires her to remove her shoes so she can walk in the water up to her door. Mr, Baker has stated he wants an easement to enlarge the sewer size to better accommodate water runoffs. One member jokingly asked, "When, Judgement Day?" Lois Cormier pointed out there were parts of South Greenwood which were environmentally sensitive and where apartments were built. Adequate drainage was installed, South Greenwood has no drainage problems and several apartment complexes exist in that area. If the proposed enlarged sewer would solve neighborhood drainage problems could be determined by allowing Ray Sattinger and Bill Baker to attend our next meeting. Some felt this would ~rolong the meeting. '--' The possibility of setting a precedent by paying this claim which could allow many people to could come forward with claims could deprive new applicants of a home, This disturbed some members. Some question the ability of the City to cover every contingency. Tina Pimenidis feels the City is a professional and is aware on many possibilities and therefore has an obligation to advise the 3 ~ . > '"" . . . I I "- I ~, ~ , .... ~'~ I- .. ,'--...., new homeowner of everything. The first-time homoowner has no' background to know any of the possibilities. Jim polatty pointed out that this would in effect say the NHS was negligent. Tom Brooks advised all home owners get a copy of the survey which contains all the information necessary regarding flooding on that parcel. Darrell Collins feels the committee needs to hear from all parties involved before they can make a recommendation due to liability. There was no realtor involved and Ms. Lafferty W<JS required to obtain flood insurance. Tina suggested all members look at their flood policy as she reviewed hers recently and learned she was not covered for contents. Darrell felt the City has long been aware there is a drainage problem on that street. Tina asked if that wasn't a latent act. We believe she was informed and understood. They cannot reconcile Ms. Lafferty putting her belongings in the garage if she knew of potential flooding problems. Rudy Miller felt Community Development was in the business to help people when we are informed of what the conditions are. Darrell Collins made a motion (which was not seconded) to invite her to come and explain what happened based on her recollection. Cherry Harris suggested we give her $2,000. and just forget about it setting a precedent. Willie Brewton was concerned that if we do this we could possibly be correcting all errors and not have any monies to expend. ~ -... John Gammage inquired if the City could make good on Ms. Lafferty's problems and the come to an agreement on how to cover the City from now on. Darrell Collins cannot see how by paying her makes us liable for everything. Mike Holmes advised that offering her money could opefl us up for further liability if she later recalled any item she had forgotten. He stated we nceded to be careful of whatever action we took. Jim reiterated while we would like to help peoplef we are a business and after an applicant becomes a homeowner, they have a duty to become informed. i '-) An answer we do not have is did she get any money from her insurance company as we would not want to pay her twice. Jim Polatty again stated this is not a construction or CDBG issue. He feels the NHS and City are covered by the Code of Ordinance and that Ms. Lafferty may not be entitled to anything for an 'act of God'. Motion was made by Darrell Collins that we invite Pat Lafferty, Roy Sattinger and Mr. Baker to a 15 minute maximum presentation per party. Rudy Miller soconded and it was approved. 9. Jim Polatty explained the reconciled GPR and went over it page by page with members. I....,J 4 I ,i " " ' "~""'''.'''Q.'''' II, '} 10. The group bus tour was discussed. It is set up for Friday, January 14, 1994, and Saturday, January 15, 1994. 1t may take 6 hours each day to visit most of the 35 subrecipients and includes lunch. Due to criticism received last year for failure to actually enter each facility on their recommended funding list, they will correct that by visiting each location and video recording such visitation for any members who would be unable to make any portion of the tour. It was suggested from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm spending 45 minutes at each stop. Some groups not having an operation at their office could bring us a presentation and for others we can go past the homes they have either built or assisted. 'In February and March we will begin our recommended list. We will be able to document the visits with the video. 11 . Jim Polatty advised members that a new Community Development Manager has been selected and that Doug Aloise will be starting sometime in January. 12. Darren Collins motioned to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Cherry Harris and the meeting adjourned at 10:05 pm. \--"'\ , ''W<!I 'J y 5