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CITY COMMISSION BUDGET WORK SESSION
July 22, 1991
The City Commission of the City of Clearwater met at City Hall at 9:00 a.m. with
the following members present:
Rita Garvey
Sue Berfield
Lee Regulski
William Nunamaker
Richard Fitzgerald
Also present were:
Michael J. Wright
Kathy S. Rice
Elizabeth Deptula
Tina Wilson
Jeff Harper
Cynthia E. Goudeau
Mayor/Commissioner
Vice-Mayor/Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
City Manager
Deputy City Manager
Assistant City Manager
Acting Budget Director
Administrative Services Director
City Clerk
The City Manager opened the meeting indicating he is proposing a $127
million dollar budget. He reported the state and counties provide basic needs
and cities are formed to provide a greater level of service. Growth; s
technically over in Clearwater and expenditures and revenues will be leveling
(1;':,\ out. He stated the port ion of the budget that affects taxes is the General Fund
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Services are 70% of the Genera 1 Fund budget. On a positi ve note, the Ci ty' s debt
is extremely low. He reported 34% of the City1s revenues come from property
taxes. He asked Department Directors to submit a status quo budget. 3.8
add i t i ana 1 peop 1 e are be i ng requested in th i s budget. He requested the
Commission set one more meeting the week of August 5, 1991 to discuss budgeting.
He stated this meeting would be to do some forecasting looking at projected
revenues and expenditures of the City for the next three years.
He indicated he is continuing to look at what needs to be done in order to
curtail expenses. Positions have been cut from the City Manager1s Office; the
Police Department is looking at cutting administrative positions and putting
individuals back on patrol; Public Works is downgrading some positions and has
earmarked some for elimination through attrition.
Staff was complimented for its efforts on the budget. It was stated that
by implementing the stormwater utility, this eliminated certain services being
paid for by taxes but that it would result in the City working with additional
monies.
A question was raised regarding expenses that will not be necessary in the
next year1s budget and whether or not the budget could be cut. It was indicated
$1 million dollars of the budget is for pay raises.
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.-..... In response to questions regarding the stormwater program, it was indicated
14 people had been hired to be paid for through the stormwater utility fee and
stormwater projects had been enhanced through this fee as well.
A question was raised regarding how firm the revenue figures were and it
was stated they were conservative.
Quest ions were ra i sed regarding the pens ion fund and it was indicated
revenues generated by the pens ion fund ; nvestment stay with; n the pens ion
accou nt. Th i s revenue cou 1 d be u sed to reduce the contr i but i on I however, cau t ion
was urged as approximately 25% of the employees will be reaching retirement age
with in' the next five years. It was i nd i ca ted the amount of contr i but i on
calculated by the actuaries is a required contribution to the fund.
Questions were raised regarding not adding as much to the General Fund
surplus and it was indicated additional monies could be placed in the insurance
fund and be treated as a one time income. Caution was also urged regarding
reducing the surplus as this is our insurance fund and one catastrophic event
could wipe out that fund.
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I n response to quest ions regard i ng ut i 1 i ty systems accounts, it was
indicated the so lid waste program is being reviewed as we are hav; ng to go
heavier into recycling. The City Manager indicated he did not wish to spend
capital until he was sure what program would be used. He also reported the gas
division is in a holding pattern until a new general manager can be brought on
board. They are looking at taking the system into Pasco County next year.
In response to questions regarding water, the City Manager indicated they
are planning some small construction projects for reclaimed water~ He stated he
wants to look at this program very carefully prior to implementing a city-wide
program. He also reported rate studies are currently underway.
The City Manager asked for the Cornmission1s input regarding contributions
to other agencies. In response to a question regarding the contribution to FIG,
it was explained this group helps cities identify more efficient and cost
effective methods. Implementation of their recommendations more than recoup the
$5,000 contribution. A question was raised regarding the Tampa Bay Estuary
Program's request for funding of $9,000. It was indicated that was the City's
proportional share of the program. 75% of the total program is funded through
federal funds with 25% being made up at the local level.
Concerns were expressed regarding duplication of effort with other groups
such as'Southwest Florida Management District, Environmental Protection Agency
and Department of Environmental Regulation. It was reported the Estuary Program
was to bring a comprehensive prospective and to work with these organizations in
developing a program to restore Tampa Bay~ It was requested someone from the
program be asked to speak to the Commission regarding the work to be done and the
possibility of duplication of effort.
It was reported there was an error ;n the proposed budget and the
contribution to the Fun1n'Sun Festival should be reduced to $34,675.
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Discussion ensued regarding the $15,000 request from the Florida Orchestra.
It was indicated the City gave the Orchestra $10,000 in this year's budget.
Discussion ensued regarding the desire of the Commission for other
communities to help fund this program. Consensus of the Commission was to budget
the entire $15,000, commit to give the first $10,000 to the orchestra and the
remaining $5,000 would be available only if the orchestra can get Largo, Dunedin
and Safety Harbor to also contribute to the program.
Discussion ensued regarding the Pinellas Economic Development Council's
request for $15,000 in funding. The City Manager indicated there is a strong
working relationship between the Economic Development Council and the Industry
Counci 1. It was indicated the Economic Development Council is targeting
businesses and office development while the Industry Council is targeting
industry. It was requested the Commission consider having one Commission member
serve on both these councils. It was requested someone from the Economic
Development Council make a presentation to the Commission regarding their other
funding programs and how they work with the Industry Council.
In response to a question regarding the reduction in contribution to the
Mr./Mrs. Clearwater Coffee, it was indicated the Chamber has taken over this
function and no longer holds it in City Hall.
The meeting recessed from 10:20 to 10:28 a.m.
The City Manager reported he has placed $5,000 in the employment,
recognition program and the entire recognition program will be looked at by the
Labor Management group.
Information regarding the status of the current Commission travel budget
was requested. The City Manager reported there are currently two vacancies in
the Affirmative Action Office and the Public Information Program will be reviewed
this year.
In response to a question regarding why other operating costs had doubled
in the Public Information area, it was indicated this was for the addition of the
film commission. It was requested the City Manager provide additional
information.
The City Manager further reported contractual services in the legal
department had been reduced. Kathy Rice, Deputy City Manager, indicated this is
because there are no attorneys bargaining for the City in the current labor
negotiations. It was also reported the Human Relations and Affirmative Action
departments are being looked at for possible reorganization. It was reported
Affirmative Action will be used more for minority recruiting than it has been in
the past.
In response to a question, it was indicated eight of the police officers
that had not been hired by the Tampa Police Department had been hired by the City
of Clearwater. .
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The City' s training programs were discussed with it being indicated efforts
are being made to consolidate this function.
In response to a question regarding people being trained as supervisors,
it was indicated there is a perception they are not trained prior to becoming
supervisors and this is being addressed.
A question was raised regarding turn-over and it was indicated there is
approximately an annual 9% turn-over in the City of Clearwater. Some of this
turn-over is due to retirement.
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A question was raised regarding the overall cost for the messenger service
as it is broken down into each individual department.
The police department's budget was discussed with concern being expressed
that in order to reduce overtime costs, service had been sacrificed. The City
Manager indicated he felt this had happened, however, he had recently instructed
the Chief to loosen up on the restrictions on overtime. A request was made for
information to be provided to the Commission regarding how much better the police
department is doing regarding their overtime budget.
A question was raised regarding the ability to use photo-radar for traffic
enforcement and it was indicated State law would have to change in order for this
type of program to be implemented.
Discussion ensued regarding the police aides on the beach and how to reduce
those costs and it was indicated that a survey was being done which would provide
pub 1 i c input regard i ng the proposa 1 s for one way pa i rs on the beach. I nf orma t i on
was requested on the cost figures for the three one way street systems and it was
indicated the results of the community survey would be put all in one package.
The City Manager reported the a irpark had been returned to the Genera 1 Fund
as it is not a true enterprise fund. In response to a question, he indicated the
City is considering using property next to the airport, originally purchased for
the sanitation facility, to be used for part of the recycling and/or training of
drivers. He indicated the status on the subleases and other airport issues would
be forthcoming in the near future.
A concern was expressed regarding the increase in tree inventory. The City
Manager responded that after the April 25th storm, it was discovered the City
needed to be paying more attention to the condition of its trees as many of those
that were blown down were diseased.
Discussion ensued regarding private contractors not removing debris when
they trim or cut down trees and it was indicated this is difficult to enforce.
Questions were raised regarding proposed activities of the individuals
being hired to staff the sailing center. Ream Wilson, Parks and Recreation
Director, indicated the center would be open six days a week and one person would
be on duty at all times to do such things as open the building, collect fees and
schedule the meeting rooms. This will be maintained under the marina. It was
indicated sources of revenue from this facility will be launch fees, contract
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instructors, concessions, donations and rental of the building. He stated the
problem with predicting revenues is that there is no other facility like this in
the City and therefore, there is no history upon which to base an estimate.
In response to a question, it was indicated current policy would not allow
alcoholic beverage consumption however, other rental buildings have been exempted
from the alcoholic beverage prohibition and that perhaps this facility should be
also. It was questioned whether or not the City would break even on revenues
generated here and it was indicated it was not anticipated. It was indicated
add i t i ana 1 revenues mi ght pas sib 1 y be generated from renta 1 of boat storage space
in the 3D. setback area.
Questions were raised regarding where cuts could be made in the Parks and
Recreation budget. Concerns were expressed regarding the transfer of personnel
from The Fred Cournoyer Center to The Long Center.
Discussion ensued regarding The Long Center with it being indicated City
residents are participating in other than City of Clearwater programs at the
facility. Mr. Wilson indicated 75 - 80% of the outdoor activity at the center
involves Clearwater residents. A concern was expressed that the issue is still
that the cost per user hour ish i gher at th i s f ac il ity than other City
facilities. It was requested someone from The Long Center address the Commission
regarding their budget and plans.
Discussion ensued regarding how to reduce the user hour cost and it was
indicated activity has picked up and the primetime hours are pretty much full.
Mr. Wilson indicated the funding formula for the center is based on actual use
of the participating agencies. The City of Clearwater is a 77% user of the
facility. '
A question was raised regarding how much it would cost for the City to
operate the facility. Concerns were expressed there are some City of Clearwater
residents that can not afford the fees at The Long Center. In response to a
question regarding other possible cuts, it was indicated programs would have to
be cut in order to reduce the budget.
Further discussion ensued regarding the Parks and Recreation budget with
it being indicated there are many things in this budget that are not recreational
programming. It was emphasized the Parks and Recreation Department maintains all
City property and rights-af-way.
Concern was expressed that people were beginning to reach a point where
they do want to pay more for parks and recreation services. In response to a
question, it was indicated $110,000 is spent on cleaning Clearwater Beach.
Concerns were expressed regarding fees charged for various applications in
the Planning and Development Department. It was indicated these fees had just
been reviewed. Complaints are being received regarding the cost of variance
applications and a concern was expressed that this is discouraging businesses
from coming into the City of Clearwater.
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Regard i n9 the Library budget, the City Manager reported the Cap i ta 1
Improvement Project Budget has been increased to allow purchase of additional
books. Concern was expressed regarding $10,000 being budgeted for the library's
75th Anniversary Celebration. Commission consensus was to reduce this to $2,500.
A question was raised regarding how book rate turn over is calculated.
Regarding the utility funds, the City Manager again reported rate
structures are being looked at.
A question was raised regarding the increase in radio service charges to
departments. Betty Deptula, Assistant City Manager, indicated money was borrowed
for the implementation of the 800 mhz radio system. When the refurbishment shop
was el iminated, which had been proposed to generate savings to pay for this cost,
those costs had to be reallocated as debt service.
In response to questions regarding the Cityls water production, it was
indicated this is being reviewed.
A question was raised regarding whether or not the gas division operated
the radio system and it was indicated it is shown in this budget because they
need it to respond to emergency situations 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Other departments will reflect a portion of this cost.
The City Manager reported that permitting for the proposed marina on Island
Estates has been budgeted for in the Capital Improvement Project. He indicated
this project will not go forward unless it is deemed feasible. He indicated the
\~~~ parking fund would be discussed at a meeting in August.
A question was raised regarding whether or not expansion of the Jolly
Trolley service had been included in the budget. Concerns were expressed
regarding the ability to charge for the trolley service. It was requested that
any restrictions regarding charging be reviewed.
The City Manager reported he has recommended the City no longer
automatically participate in the Energy Coalition. He stated if there were a
need to address an issue, the City would pay for that counse'( at that time.
A question was raised regarding where sale of surplus property was
accounted for and it was indicated it would be within each department's budget
that disposes of the surplus property.
In response to a question regarding an increase in garage fees, it was
indicated the increase in inflation, increase in fuel cost and additional
vehicles had caused this.
In response to a question, it was indicated the City did not have a policy
to buy all United States made vehicles. Concerns were expressed regarding the
use of cellular phones.
In response to a question regarding the Capital Improvement Budget showing
$30,000 for a gazebo on the beach, it was indicated this $30,000 had been moved
into the general category of Clearwater Beach improvement. It was stated that
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of the overall $24 million eIP budget. only $1.1 million comes from the general
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. Consensus of the Commission was to set a special meeting to receive
information regarding the three year forecasting for August 5. 1991 at 9:00 a.m.
(It was later found this meeting needed to be changed to 1:00 p.m. on the same
date)
The meeting adjourned at 12:59 p.m.
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