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CITY COMMISSION WORK SESSION
February 9, 1993
The City Commission of the City of Clearwater met at Gity Hall with the following members
present:
Rita Garvey
Richard Fitzgerald
Sue Berfield
Arthur X. Deegan, II
Mayme Hodges
Mayor/Commissioner
Vjce~Mayor ICommissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Also present:
Michael J. Wright
Kathy S. Rice
Elizabeth Deptula
Tina Wilson
Cynthia E. Goudeau
City Manager
Deputy City Manager
Assistant City Manager
Budget Director
City Clerk
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The meeting was called to order at 10:38 a.m.
Elizabeth Deptula, Assistant City Manger, indicated the purpose of today's meeting is
l:"> to get direction regarding the upcoming budgeting process, She indicated the budget is
."". considered to be a controlling and planning document. She reported the Financial
Management Ordinance can be changed. She indicated, while Clearwater has received several
Government Finance Officer Association awards for its budgeting, there is still room for
improvement.
Ms. Deptula reviewed zero based budgeting and a modified version adopted by
Chandler, Arizona. She then reviewed the processes used by the City of Clearwater from
1 983 to the present.
She reiterated the purpose of today's meeting is to determine the process to be used
for the 1993/94 budget and how the Commission wants the budget document to look. She
reported the Commission previously reached consensus that the millage rate remain the same
and the number of employees remain constant. There needs to be discussion regarding the
establishment of new fees.
The City Manager indicated the proposed recycling program will add to the City's
expenses. He is comparing doing it in-house to contracting it out.
Ms. Deptula reviewed budget processes from other governments.
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Tina Wilson, Budget Manager, reviewed a possible format for a program budget. She
expressed some concern regarding losing some historical data through the process. The
Mayor suggested the preliminary budget could contain the historical information.
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,~ Ms. Deptula questioned if the Commission wanted to see the enterprise funds'
contributions to the general fund. Ms. Wilson indicated this information would always be
available in the appendices.
Regarding the need to change the Financial Management Ordinance, Ms. Deptula
indicated a couple of word changes should suffice. Currently the ordinance requires the
general fund information be separate from the enterprise and interfund information. The City
Manager indicated the Commission could change the Ordinance in any manner they like.
In response to a question Ms. Deptula indicated going to a program based budget (PSS)
would not eliminate line item information for use by the departments and the budget office.
She indicated if the Commission directs to pursue a PSS a listing of the programs in each
department would be prepared within the next two to three weeks.
The City Manager questioned if the Commission wanted to make this change. It was
stated this would result in less detail being given to the Commission. The budget document
would be based on the programs once they are prioritized.
A question was raised regarding how overtime in the police department would be
identified. Ms. Deptula indicated there would be a page per program with information
regarding categories of costs. A separate book or computer printout would provide line item
data. She indicated each commissioner may look at whatever information and level of detail
they want.
(;<;~ Discussion ensued regarding what the Commissioners wanted, There was general
~~ agreement that a lot of detail was not needed in the budget presentations but they should be
available for Commissioners that wanted them.
Consensus of the Commission was to direct staff to pursue a Modified Program
Budget.
A request was made that measurable indicators be included. Discussion ensued
regarding what was being requested. It was suggested this be allowed ,to evolve over the
next few months. It was stated staff should go ahead with the modified PBS keeping it as
simple and clear as possible, Ms. Deptula indicated this would not be a two book process.
All agreed.
Ms. Deptula indicated final numbers would not be in the budget until July 1, 1993.
, A question was raised regarding the concept of having revenues and expenses on the
same page. The City Manager felt this is a good idea,
Ms. Deptula question'ed how the Commission wanted to get public input and if there
should be a budget town meeting. Consensus was to schedule a town meeting after the City
Manager's recommended budget has been released. Ms. Deptula indicated this would be late
July or August.
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The City Manager stated there were some philosophical issues he wanted to make sure
of. He indicated he had heard Commission direction that there not be an increase in the
millage rate and that fees were to be held in line within certain parameters. The last Issue is
does he bring the Commission a balanced budget or one out of balance with options.
Discussion ensued regarding the need to prioritize programs and establish measurable
indicators. Consensus of the Commission was for the City Manager to deliver a balanced
budget. It was stated that this does not mean the Commission can not make changes.
I A question was raised regarding whether to allow a carryover as is done in Chandler t
Arizona. Discussion ensued, there was no consensus.
The meeting adjourned at 12:58 p.m.
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