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CLEARWATER PURl,Ie r~IBRARY BOARD
MINUTES OF THE MEETING
26 OCTOBER 1979
Mayor's Conference Room
0:30 AN - 10:15 AM
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Mr. Homer Royer) Chairman
Ms. Candace Gardner, Vice-Chairman
~tr. Curtis G. Barre
Mrs. Herbert E. (Helen) Diller
Mrs. Arta Gates
Mr. George E. Harris
Mrs. Arlyn Hutt
Mr. Fred Korosy
Mrs. Lucile Williams
Mrs. Nancy Zussy. Library Director
Mr. Walter A. Krick
Mrs. Ann Wickersham
(excused)
(excused)
GUESTS:
Mrs. Rita Garvey
Mrs. Jan Regulski
Chairman Horner Royer called the meeting to order at 9:30 AM.
Mr. Royer asked about the progress of the appointment of a student
ex-officio member to the Board. Since the City Manager's office has not
notified us of an ex-officio candidate and the Board has no recommendations
for one. Mrs. Zussy agreed to contact the City Manager's office again to
see if an appointment would be made by the next meeting.
Mr. Royer asked Mrs. Zussy to report on the progress of the Main
Library construction project. To date almost all of the foundation has
been poured; the walls for the multi-purpose room are up; the electrical
and plumbing have been roughed in; interior equipment rooms are being
constructed; the roof drainage system is being improved. Construction
is about l~ weeks ahead of schedule at this point. Mrs. Zussy invited
Board members to tour the area. The only public complaints to date have
been minor traffic problems on Sunset Court.
~fr. Royer opened discussion ~o the proposed branch libraries/bond
referendum questions raised by the Board at the last meeting and answered
by Mrs. Zussy in a subsequent report. Several Board members expressed
concern over the possibility of a referendum in November) when property
taxes are due. Mrs. Zussy encouraged the Board to make their opinions
known to the Commission regarding a referendum. It was also noted that
due to inflation many young people as well as the elderly may vote down
a referendum. Mrs. Zussy noted that in truth building branch libraries in
an area with only one main library is extending an existing service into
that area. rather than expanding services. a concept which might meet with
more voter approval if well promoted.
Mr. Royer asked if there are any "Butler" buil:dings constructed as
libraries in the area that Board members might look at before making any
type of recommendation to the City Commission. Mrs. Zussy distributed
brochures showing Butler buildings used for various businesses. Mr. Barre
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asked if this type of construction could be used for a 30,000 square
foot library building. Mrs. Zussy stated that the buildings could be
used for virtually any size structure nceded. Mrs. Gates felt that the
building planned for East Clearwater should be bigger than the one planned
for Countryside. Mrs. Zussy explained that this type of construction
could.be added to very easily. Mr. Barre asked how the City Manager felt
about "Butler" buildings; f.frs. Zussy stated he was in favor of exploring
the possibility. Mr. Royer stated the Board must weigh the possible
success or failure of a bigger bond issue and its cost to the taxpayer
as compared to a structure of the "Butler" type which the City Commission
may build without a bond issue if under $1,000,000.
Mrs. Diller questioned whether the City Commission has approved
the proposal (for branch libraries). There then followed general discussion
about the fact that in 1976 as part of a Federal Grant Application the
concept of two branch libraries was approved for that purpose by the
City Commission. However, any alternative means of financing branch
libraries would probably require that the Commission restate an intention
to do so. (NOTE: City's recently adopted 1979-85 Capital Improvement
Project program budget calls for a Starcrcst branch in FY 1980-81 and a
Countryside branch in FY 1983-B4--both financed through General Obligation
Bond issu~s.)
Mr. Royer stressed that "if \"'e go to a bond issue~ every effort must
be made to see that it does succeed, because if it should fail, then we
are doomed for some time to come."
Mrs. Diller questioned whether the branch libraries being discussed
would be full-service facilities and could they be in "Butler" buildings.
Mrs. Zussy stated that the branches would be full-service facilities in
that most tyPcs of materials currently at the Main Library would be
duplicated--enough for student researcll needsj however, materials such
as those for intense genealogy work would not be duplicated because of
the expense involved.
~tts. Hutt stressed that the Board must decide what their goal is and
educate themselves as to the needs of the area and type of building necessary
to fill that goal--only then can the Board members recommend to the City
Conunission what is needed. Mr. Royer suggested finding a "Butler" building
in the area that the Board could tour to see exactly what the structure
can offer. The figures for proposed branch libraries would include shelving
and equipment with the structure cost but not books. Books could be
purchased through other means, such as Capital Improvement Program item or
a one-year temporary tax increase.
Mrs. Diller asked Mrs. Zussy to explain the possibility of a joint
venture with the St. Petersburg Junior College library on the Clearwater
campus. ~Irs. Zussy reported that the venture would mean adding onto the
existing library facility or' building a separate facility on the same site.
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The Junior College administration is not necessarily in favor of this
idea. Mrs. Diller mentioned that the Hunt site would be quite accessible
to the Junior College librnry. Mrs. Zussy noted that oi ther the Hunt 01'
Starcrest site would enable us to save on duplicating some reference
materials, as the Junior Colle~e library is close to both sites--therefore
enabling the two institutions to purchase some things cooperatively. ,An
inter-local agreement could be made between the two entities so that under
certain conditions students and the public could use each facility without
additional fees, providing they are City residents. City residents could
conversely use the St. Petersburg Junior College library at no additional
charge.
Mr. Barre asked if the Board could go on record asking for a 30,000
square foot library for the Starcrest site. Mrs. Zussy explained that with
the new construction, the Main Library will be operating in about 36,000
square feet with 7,400 additional unfinished square feet which could be
completed at a future time; therefore the 30,000 square feet for Starcrest
would make a branch library almost equal to the Main Library facility.
The space at the Main Library includes administrative offices and technical
processing areas which take up at least 4,000-5,000 square feet and would
not be in the branch library. Given the projected population of approximately
46,000 for the Starcrest area, the American Library Association standards
call for a branch facility of 18,000-20,000 square feet to adequately serve
that area at Starcrest.
Mrs. Diller felt that the Starcrest area is in need of a full service
library and not a branch. Mrs. Zussy explained that the 18,000-20,000 square
feet would be a full service library having all materials necessary~ but
not duplicating very specialized materials such as some genealogical and
some financial materials. Mrs. Diller stated she would like to see the
Board go on record as asking for a 30~000 square foot library in East
Clearwater. ~frs. Zussy stated that based on projections given to the Board
in the presentation by Mark Tritschler of the City Planning Department,
an 18,000-20,000 square foot building is all that is needed for the Starcrest
area, based on projected population figures for the year 2,000.
~fr. Royer asked if Mr. Barre would like to make a motion on the square
footage for a Starcrest branch. Mr. Barre suggested the Board hold off
on such a motion until the Board has more information on this issue.
~trs. Zussy noted that she could not justify the figure of 30~OOO square
feet for the Starcrest branch based on any standards--those set by the
American Library Association or projections set by the City Planning Department.
Mr. Barre stated he would like to see the computerized circulation
system taken out of the referendum, as he feels we would have a better
chance of success with the bond issue if it were not included with branch
libraries. S~veral other Board members agreed.
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Mrs. Diller asked if the price of the "Dutler" buildings includes the
metal structure and the facing or just the metal alone. Mrs. Zussy stated
that each building has its own price depending on how elaborate an exterior
is desired. i.e., the more elaborate a facing. the greater the price over a
simple metal structure alone. ~trs. Hutt made a motion that the Board find
an office building of the "Butler" type structure in the area that the
Board could look at before making a recommendation. The motion was
seconded by Mrs. Williams and approved unanimously. Mr. Royer noted that
the decision regarding the use of nButlerU type structures in lieu of a
bond issue will help determine the Board's recommendation.
Mrs. Gardner asked if Mrs. Zussy could provide rough figures for the
"Butler" buildings with separate facing costs so that the Board could get
an idea of the cost of this proposal for branch libraries. Mrs. Gates felt
that the Board cannot really make any decisions until the actual sites for
the two branches have been determined.
Jan Regulski extended an invitation to the Board from the Friends of
the Library for a luncheon on Wednesday, October 31. 1979. at 11:30 AM at
the Countryside Country Club. The speaker will be Jeanne Malchon on
'.'Regional Sharing." Mr. Royer also stated that any input on the issue
of branch libraries from the Friends would' be welcome. ,.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:15 ~J.
Susan Doel. Secretary
31 October 1979