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April 24, 1995 6:30 PM
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City of Clearwater
Parks and Recreation Board Minutes
Monday, April 24, 1995
The regular meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board was held at
City Hall on Monday, April 24, 1995 at 6:30 p.m. Members present
included Mr. Henry Cruise, Mr. Gary Giordano, Mr. Donald Harris,
Mr. Stephen Guss, Mrs. Deborah Hobbs, Mr. Michael Stafford,
Chairperson Charles Weaver, Mr. William Kirbas, and Mr. Doyce
Haggard. Also in attendance were Ream Wilson, Art Kader, and Steve
Miller, Mark Abdo, Mark Myers and Becky Cerio of the Long Center.
Mr. Weaver called the meeting to order and introduced all members
of the Board and staff. Mr. Weaver welcomed the viewing public and
asked for a motion regarding the Parks and Recreation Board Minutes
of March 27, 1995. Mr. Wilson stated that he had a change to the
minutes which was on page 4. Specifically, in the seventh line of
the top paragraph, 7 p.m. should be changed to 5 p.m. Mr. Kirbas
made a motion that the minutes be approved as amended. Mr. Cruise
seconded the motion which passed.
Mr. Weaver asked Mr. Wilson if there was any correspondence for
board action_ Mr. Wilson responded in the negative.
I. OLD BUSINESS
Mr. Weaver introduced Mr. Mark Abdo , Executive Director of the Long
Center, to make a presentation on the Long Center's budget for
~995/96. Mr. Abdo introduced two members of his staff, Mr. Mark
Myers and Ms. Becky Cerio. Mr. Abdo distributed copies of his
budget presentation (attached) which also was shown on the overhead
projector. First, Mr. Abdo indicated that the mission of the Long
Center pertained primarily to achieving excellence and leadership
in providing modern recreation facilities. He also indicated that
major goals for 1995/96 included additional staff and facility
, enhancements/improvements to above minimum standards.
Mr. Abdo then indicated that his presentation would be in three
parts. The first part would be the overall operatinq budget
including revenues and expenditures. Secondly, he would address
the sinkinq Fund for major replacements and repair items needed
over the next five years. Thirdly, he would address "Additional
Expenditures" that would be prC'posed as adding on to the operating
budget.
Operatina Budaet - Mr. Abdo explained that revenues from his
operations are budgeted at $874,350 for 1994/95 and that his budget
request estimates for 1995/96 projects revenues at $799,000. This
is a reduction of approximately $75,000. Mr. Abdo explained that
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agency program fees will again be reduced five percent from
$252,323 to $239,000. Mr. Kirbas asked what percentage of this
would be Clearwater's. Mr. Abdo responded that 89 percent would be
Clearwater's, or $203,240. Mr. Abdo also pointed out that the
Center Foundation will be increasing its contribution by $35,000
from $175,000 to $210,000. Mr. Kirbas asked how close to the
projected $874,350 in revenues does the Long center figure they
will realize in 1994/95. Ms. Ceria indicated that they are on
track to receive approximately $740,000 in revenues. Basically,
Mr. Kirbas said that the Long Center evidently itemized the
revenues that it could generate and then adjusted expenditures to
meet these revenues for a balanced budget. Mr. Abdo said that this
was correct and that he must control expenses in order to stay in
budget since revenues are down. Mr. Abdo went on to say that the
proposed operating budget for 1995/96 is balanced at $799,000 of
revenues and $799,000 of expenditures. However, by placing
realistic revenue figures, Mr. Abdo said that they had to reduce
expenditures to the point where it would make it very difficult to
maintain the facilities in a proper fashion. In fact, the proposed
budget would be considerably less than the budget for this year.
Mr. Abdo went on to explain "None Controllable Expenses" such as
electric, water, sewer, trash, gas, etc. He stated that his
expenses for gas and water are $10,000 less than budgeted this year
mainly because of achieving a lower gas fee with the City'S Gas
Department.
Mr. Haggard expressed concerns about a reduction in expenditures
for marketing. Mr. Abdo explained that this would go from a budget
of $17,500 for 1994/95 to $2,000 for 1995/96. However, Mr. Abdo
said that expenses had to be reduced and that monies were best
spent on maintaining existing facilities. He said that although
monies for salaries and benefits reduced from $455,200 in 1994/95
to $450,300 in 1995/96, monies are included for a full time
custodian which is in this year's budget but unfunded. It was
unfunded because expenses had to be reduced because of less
revenues being generated. Basically, salaries and benefits for
1995/96 include a one percent increase for employees, the use of
actual head counts and actual pay rates for accuracy rather than
using market figures, and the filling of the custodian position.
Considerable discussion ensued regarding the Operating Budget.
Mr. Weaver asked if the Long Center still intended to use solar
energy. Mr. Abdo responded that he realized a 20 percent savings
by entering into a gas contract with the City which is a similar
savings they would realize if they went solar. However, he said
that they have not given up and will continue to research solar for
the facility.
I-ir. GuSS asked about the value of the wood floor in the gymnasium
and asked how long they have had it. Mr. Abdo stated that it was
installed with the facility and that he was most satisfied with the
wood floor. He said it must be maintained and Mr. Gusa asked if
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Mr. Abdo would rather have tile or wood. Mr. Abdo responded that
that is a difficult question. He said that the Long Center
installed the wood floor but that it was not the highest level of
wood quality. Mr. Myers said that they reseal the floor each year.
Mr. Guss also asked if the pool would need remarciting. Mr. Abdo
responded that it had stains but that they could remove them now
without remarciting.
SINKING FUND - Mr. Abdo distributed a sheet showing items included
in the proposed "sinking- Fund". He said the items were listed by
priority and that their total for five years was $367,400.
Mr. Abdo said that the Long Center will be requesting that the
threshold to seek funding for a sinking Fund item be reduced from
$5,000 to $2,000. He said that right now, if an item on the list
needs funding and repair at $2,500, he must wait until it is
further deteriorated before he can request monies that would reach
$5,000.
Mr. Abdo said that the first sinking Fund was established several
years ago at a cost of approximately $187,000. He said now that
the building is five years old, additional items need repair and
the Sinking Fund proposal is $367,400. He said that over a five
year period, Clearwater would pay 89 percent, or $326,986. Safety
Harbor would pay ten percent, worth $36,740. Clearwater For Youth
would pay one percent or $3,674.
On an annual basis, Clearwater would pay $65,397 for each of five
years less a sinking Fund balance per year of $11,225 for a net
expenditure per year of $54,172.
Mr. Abdo showed slides of various items contained on the sinking
Fund list. These included rusted metal doors at pool side, algae
or discoloration on exterior block wall that need high powered
pressure cleaning every so often, cracks in the roof tops causing
some leaks, rusted lockers in the locker room, a wet parking area
at the west side of the swimming pool causing maj or parking
problems, dead limbs in trees at the playground that need severe
pruning or removal. Mark said all of the items are needed to
properly maintain the facility.
Considerable discussion ensued regarding the Sinking Fund.
Mr. Kirbas said that the sinking Fund balance must total around
$56,000 if Clearwater was to qet an $11,000 per year credit.
Mr. Abdo responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Haggard said that many of their proj ects, in his opinion,
needed to be done now rather than waiting five years. Mr. Abdo
responded that he fel t they needed to take care of every day
visitors that currently attend the center that have registered
complaints regarding the facilities before attracting new visitors.
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Mr. Haggard said that the Long Center might lose membership instead
of increase membership if renovations and repairs are not made.
Mr. Guss asked about ADA. Mr. Abdo responded that $ 30, 000 is
budgeted in the Sinking Fund for ADA improvements. He said there
are things that are needed inside and outside the facility.
Mr. Weaver asked if the ADA renovations were included in the
original plan. Mr. Abdo responded that many of them were not and
that the ADA legislation was recently passed. Mr. Weaver asked if
grants were available to fund the ADA improvements. Mr. Abdo
stated that he did not know and that they had to rely on private
foundations to contribute monies toward items.
Mr. Kirbas asked how much in total dollars from the City would be
requested in 1994/95. Ms. Cerio responded that it would be about
$214,293 for agency program fees, $33,000 for Sinking Fund, and
$17,000 for office rental, for a total of about $264,000.
Mr. Guss asked if there couldn't have been better planning when the
Center was originally conceived to include better quality
materials. Mr. Abdo stated that this was researched but that costs
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Mr. Guss asked if we couldn't get more help financially from the
city of Safety Harbor. Mr. Abdo stated that contributions from
cities are based on usage and Safety Harbor has the same problems
and concerns as does Clearwater. '
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Mr. Guss asked if other organizations could be tapped financially.
Mr. Abdo responded that UPARC already gives on a usage basis and
said that there really isn't any more room for programming of any
other contributing agencies.
Mr. GusS said he didn't feel that the Long Center should be faced
with these problems every year. Mr. Abdo responded that the needs
of the Long center are increasing but he understands that the city
has financial limits.
Mr. Harris said he understood that safety Harbor might have been
interested in backing out of the Long Center situation some years
ago and asked Mr. Abdo what he would do if this was to occur.
Mr. Abdo said that Safety Harbor had discussed this item in the
past but that he would hope that this would not be the case. He
said he couldn't speak for Safety Harbor but that the five percent
reduction does help. Mr. Harris also asked if the county could
become involved in helping the Long Center financially. Mr. Abdo
said that this would be good and didn' t know if the Center
Foundation might be working on this.
Mr. Kirbas asked if the city said that the Long Center had to make
cuts, how would this be done. Mr. Abdo responded that this was the
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reason for prioritized items in the sinking Fund and other
expenses. Those items not receiving higher priority would have to
be eliminated.
Mr. Giordano asked why the Long Center had to go through this each
year. Mr. Wilson explained that the Long Center is a different
type operation than other City facilities and that it was
originally determined that Mr. Abdo would present a Ustate of the
Centeru message to the city Commission each year since the city
contributes money to a program run by another agency. Mr. Wilson
stated that City recreation facilities go through fairly similar
procedures with the City Commission and City management in
justifying individual budgets. Mr. Giordano felt that the city
gets its money's worth from the Long Center. He supported sending
a letter to the City Commission recommending in favor of continuing
the funding for the Long Center.
Mr. Haggard asked if Mr. Abdo will be giving the same presentation
to the City commission. Mr. Abdo responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Guss said he was concerned that the Long Center was having
problems but that the city continued to build more recreation
, centers.
Additional E~enditures proposea - Mr. Abdo distributed a listing
of uAdditional Expenditures Proposed" which total $76,500.
Mr. Abdo explained each item which, if approved, would bring the
budget and facility above minimum maintenance. He indicated that
the additional expenditures included $18,100 for two part-time life
guards for safety purposes. It also included additional monies
like $13,500 for additional repairs and maintenance to the
building, $1,000 for supplies and grounds, $8,900 for a 3.5 percent
raise for employees, $2, 500 add! tional1y for volunteer recognition,
$5,000 for additional maintenance contracts for facilities, etc.
considerable discussion ensued regarding these additional
expenditures that were proposed. Mr. Kirbas indicated that if
these expenditures totaled $76,500, the city's portion would be
about $68,000, or 89 percent. Mr. Kirbas said that in 1994/95, the
city's total contributions to everything at the Long Center was
$274,000. He said that the same contribution in 1995/96, would be
approximately a $70,000 increase to $343,000.
Mr. Abdo showed addi tional slides of other needs at the Long
center.
Mr. Cruise asked if the city didn't give money, what would happen.
Mr. Abdo stated that the facili ty would remain in the same
condition that it is now.
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~ Mr. Giordano fe1 t that the Board should prepare a letter to
continue funding for the Long Center including all improvements
requested.
Mr. Kirbas said that the presentation by the Long Center was better
and it showed that the Long Center was operating and functioning
like a business. Mr. Harris asked if copies of the Board's support
should be sent to Clearwater For Youth and Safety Harbor. The
response was in the negative.
Mr. Weaver said that we need to support the structural repairs of
the ,Long Center for it would only get worse. Mr. Weaver supports
continuous support of funding.
Mr. Guss said citizens see new facilities being constructed but
more maintenance is needed at existing facilities.
Mr. Kirbas made a motion that Mr. Weaver, with the help of
Mr. Wilson, compose a letter to the city Commission from the Board
recommending in favor of supporting the budget request as submitted
by Mr. Abdo. This would include an operating budget of $799,000,
a Sinking Fund over five years totaling $367,400, and "Additional
Expenditures" for 1995/96 in amount of $76,500. Mr. Haggard
seconded the motion which passed.
Board members thanked Mr. Abdo and his staff for taking the time
out of their schedule make the presentation which they felt was
well done.
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Mr. Weaver asked Mr. Wilson to report on the Parks and Recreation
Department's Capital Improvement Budget requests for 1995/96.
Mr. Wilson distributed copies of proposed Capital Improvement
projects for 1995/96 (attached) which are listed in terms of
priority, and according to funding sources. It also extends
projects out for the next five years. Mr. Wilson explained that
the three primary funding sources include "Infrastructure Tax",
"General Fund", and "Other" . He said that funding is being
proposed for the top 17 priority projects for 1995/96. Projects
recommended for funding with Infrastructure Tax total $1,243,000 as
compared to funds brought forward of $395,000. He said that this
is an extremely high increase of approximately $800,000 of which
there will be considerable administrative discussion. Projects
include the development of Lake Chautaqua Park according to state
requirements, furnishings for the new countryside Recreation
Center, parking lot renovation at the Countryside Sportsp1ex with
the widening of McMullen Booth Road, concrete sidewalk and pad
repairs, fencing replacement for safety purposes, etc.
, Considerable discussion ensued. Mr. Wilson explained that although
projects to be funded by Infrastructure Tax are considerably higher
than monies brought forward, projects recommended for financing
from the General Fund total $210,000 as compared to $215,000 worth
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of projects brought forward. He said that the listing also
included $300,000 for improvements requested by the Philadelphia
Phillies at carpenter Field along with an additional $300,000 of
improvements for 1996/97.
Mr. Haggard stated that he liked the listing of projects showing
various funding sources and years. He said he would concur with
staff priorities and felt they were in line.
Mr. Harris said that he had nothing additional to add and felt that
the budget presentation was very good.
Mr. Stafford expressed interest in the Martin Luther King proposal
for $80,000 for restroom renovations and asked if playground
equipment was geared for installation at Marshall Street Park.
Mr. Kader responded that playground equipment will be installed at
Marshall Street Park within the next couple of months.
Mr. Giordano felt that the Parks and Recreation staff did a good
job in preparing the chart of Capital Improvement projects and
indicated his support.
Mr. Guss felt that "Light Replacement", "Martin Luther Ring
Restroom Renovations", "McMullen Park Tennis Light Upgrades", and
"Bayshore Park" should be moved up in priorities. He also felt
that the Phillies request for renovations of Carpenter Field should
be removed and moved out into the next year or two. He felt that
the swimming pool to be removed from pier 60 should not be
reconstructed at the Clearwater Beach Recreation Center site or
that it might ):)e moved out into an out year. He also felt that the
Sand Key city Park should be moved up into J.995/96. Regarding this
item, Mr. Wilson responded that the City purchased the Sand Key
property some years ago to support beach renourishment on Sand Key.
However, because of t.he uncertainty of beach renourishment on Sand
Key'at this time, he felt comfortable in moving the project back.
Mr. Wilson also reminded members that proj ects recommended for
infrastructure funding is $800,000 more than funds brought forward.
Mr. Cruise said that he would go along with staff recommendations.
Mr. Kirbas said that the Parks and Recreation Board should make
recommendations now since they will not be at meetings with staff
and City commission.
Mrs. Hobbs said that the city needed to maintain what it currently
has rather than having new projects. She felt that some projects
could be eliminated such as the East-West Bicycle Path, Bayshore
Park, and the Pier 60 Swimming Pool. She felt that money saved
from these projects could possibly be redirected to the Long
Center.
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Mr. Weaver said ADA monies might could be used for sidewalks and
pads. He also asked about shelters along the south side of the
Memorial Causeway. Mr. Wilson distributed photographs from a
catalog showing small shelters consisting of roofs of only 10 feet
by 10 feet with two benches under the shelters back to back. He
said these items would cost approximately $2,500 apiece and that
they could be included in the Department's Operating Budget.
However, he said that if the Department was to include them in the
Operating Budget, he would want to make certain that the City
Manager's Office and the city Commission is aware of the shelters
since there has been some discussion in the past in opposition to
the placement of any structures on the Causeway. Mr. Weaver stated
that only two of these shelters would be needed, each one-third of
the way of the Causeway. They would be used by persons exercising
on the emergency roadway. Mr. Weaver also asked if the city has
look into the Florida Power property across from the Clearwater
Beach Recreation Center. Mr. Kader responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Wilson stated that we have had correspondence with Florida
Power and have asked for an opportunity to look into purchasing the
site if it was for sale.
Mr. Kirbas asked what percent of the Operating Budget was the
Capital Budqet. Mr. Wilson responded that this year's Operating
Budget is about $9,500,000 and that this year's capital Improvement
Budget is approximately $1,500,000.
There being no further discussion regarding the capital Improvement
Budget, staff indicated to Board members that they know the
intentions of the Board and they would keep this in mind as they
progressed through budget hearings.
Mr. Weaver asked for comments by Board members.
Mrs. Hobbs had no comment.
Mr. Kirbas had no comment.
Mr. Guss stated that he would be missing the June and July meetings
due to educational commitments at Eckerd College. Further, he said
that he would not serve a second term if asked. He said he didn't
want to gi ve reas~ns but that he was disappointed in inaction
regarding the Pinellas Trail. He felt that the lack of a trail
through Clearwater is an embarrassment to Clearwater. He said it
should be a priority.
Mr. Haggard had no comment.
Mr. Harris thanked the Long center for their presentation.
Mr. Giordano had no comment.
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Mr. Weaver asked Mr. 'Kader regarding light poles at Crest Lake
Park, for in he heard that two new poles and two old poles would be
installed at different heights. Mr. Kader said that he would look
into this issue. Also, Mr. Weaver asked if a member of the
residential community around Crest Lake could sit in on interviews
regarding a park maintenance worker. Mr. Wilson and Mr. Kader
responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Kirbas asked about the status of Magnolia Falls. Mr. Wilson
responded that this is a "live project" but that several parties
are involved. He said he would keep the Board informed.
Mr. Kader in response to a question from Mr. Harris, said that the
architect is working on restroom renovations at Crest Lake Park and
that a drawing would be presented to the Board at the next meeting.
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There being' no further business before the Board,
adjourned at 9 p.m.
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Pam aDd Recreation Board Memberl
Ream WUIOR, Parka and Rocreal1on Direc:lQr
Art Kldcr, AuIItan1 Parb and Recreal10n Director
SlcYO MUlcr, Rocrcatlon Supcrintcndclll
, Adminlltrativo Support Staff
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