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COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Apri119,1993
The City Commission, meeting as the Community Redevelopment Agency, met in
regular session at City Hall; Monday, April 19, 1993 at 1: 1 0 P.M.. with the following. '
members present: .
Rita Garvey
Richard Fitzgerald
Sue Berfield
Arthur X. Deegan, II
Fred Thomas
Phil Henderson
Lillian Trickel
Chairperson
Member
Member
Member
Member
Ex-officio member
Ex~officio member
Also Present were:
. Michael J. Wright
Milton A. Galbraith, Jr. .
Cynthia E. Goudeau
Executive Director
Attorney
Secretary
The meeting was called to order at 1:10 p.m.
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ITEM II. - Minutes of 10/19/92, 11/30/92 & 2/16/93:
Member Barfield moved to approve the minutes of the October 19, 1992, November
30, 1992 and February 16, 1993 meetings. The motion was duly seconded and carried
unanimously.
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Member Deegan expressed concern regarding the minutes not being specific as to
individuals that are speaking. He stated not having the individuals identified sometimes
causes confusion. He emphasized t'~e minutes are the official record of the meeting.
Member Deegan moved that the minutes of the agency be reported in such a way that
the identity of individuals making suggestions, raising questions, and offering comments be.
identified in the minutes by name. The motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously.
The secrotary requested clarification regarding whether this would include all citizens
speaking. It was indicated it would include all individuals making comments at the meetings.
ITEM III. - Brown offer to purchase CEl A Property. 1180 Cleveland Street
On March 3, 1993, Betty Brown, co-owner of the Plainsman Gallery located at 1171 D
. Cleveland Street offered a lease purchase proposal for the CRA property' located at 1180
Cleveland Street. The offer would be to pay $285,000 with rive year lease payments of
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, $24,000 each year. The cumulative lease payments of $120,000 would reduce the payment
to $165,000. In addition, repairs in the amount of $62,000 would be ,credited against the
lease payments. '
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The eRA is unable, under state law, to enter into a lease purchase arrangement and
since the City is considering using the Annex building as the administrative center of City
government: the value of the eRA property which is across the street, should be enhanced.
Therefore, staff recommends this offer be rejected. '
The Executive Director indicated that <IS this was a bonofide offer, he was obligated to
bring it forward to the CRA.
Member Thomas 'raised a question regarding whether or not a recent appraisal had
been obtained. The Executive Director indiCated it had not been. The Executive Director
further indicated that this has' not been done as he has been wanting to do additional goal
setting with the eRA in order to get direction regarding CRA prC!per,ties.
Member Fitzgerald requested that the issue of this offer be settled and then to discuss
a~ditional questions regarding CRA property. '
Member Berfield moved to reject Betty Brown's offer to 'purchase the CET A building
located at1 180 Cleveland Street. The motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously.
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The Chairperson questioned whether there was further direction regarding this building.
F-'" Jerry Sternstein. Economic Development Director, indicated that if the 'Annex is refurbished, it
~;'.';, w'as his suggestion this property be, held and an appraisal be done later. as, it was his belief
that the property would increase in value.
Member Deegan questioned how long the property had been vacant. Mr. Sternstein
indicated it had been vacant for approximately 2 and 1/2 months. Member Deegan
questioned whether or not any efforts have been made'to lease the building. The Executive
Director indicated that they were not actively soliciting leases. Mr. Sternstein explained that
the S.T.E.P.P.S.' organization, which had leased the building, was still paying the City lease
payments that were in arrears although they have vacated the building. He further indicated
that if we lease the building, there are approximately $60.000 worth of repairs that' need to
be done.
Member Thomas suggested that a lessee could do the repairs. The Chairperson
expressed concern that if a lessee does the repairs, they will expect a longer lease.
Member Thomas moved that the Executive Director of the CRA move forward with
leasing the eET A building. The motion was duly seconded and curried unanimously.
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ITEM IV. - Site Plan for Station Square Park Parking Lot (Kravas Property)
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William C. Baker, Public Works Director for the City of ClearwDter, presented the
proposed site plan for the Kravas lot indicating that it will have greenery and landscaping and
79 parking spaces.
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The Executive Director indicated that City Commission approval will not be required for
this site plan but the CRA, as owners of the property, need to approve it.
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Member Thomas raised a question regarding why there was only one-way ingress into
the parking lot and Mr. Baker indicated this was all DOT would permit. '
l'0ember Thomas questioned whether or not the eRA recei~ed revenue from the City's
use of this property as a parking lot. The Executive Director indicated there was a contract
between the CRA and the City and there was a split of the revenues. Member Thomas
suggested this agreement be looked at to see if greater revenues could come to the eRA. It
was suggested this be done at a future agenda.
Mr. Baker indicated an award of contract for construction of the parking lot would be
coming forward shortly.
The Chairperson raised a question regarding the location of the handicapped spaces
and it was reported that the City's ADA committee had suggested the location.
. Member Thomas moved to accept and approve the site plan and to authorize the City's
engineering division to be its agent in soliciting bids. The motion was duly seconded and
carried unanimously.
ITEM V. - Res. #93~ 1 - Abatement of taxes on Kravas ProDertv
d""-.",~\ The City Attorney presented Resolution #93-1 and read it by title only. Member
~ Fitzgerald moved to pass and adopt Resolution 1193-1 and autllorize the appropriate officials to
execute same. The motion was duly seconded and upon roll call, the vote was:
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"Ayes": Fitzgerald. Berfield, Deegan. Thomas and Garvey.
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ITEM VI. . Joint MeetinQ with the Downtown Development Board mDS) scheduled for
4/26/93
'. The Executive Director questioned whether or not the eRA still wished to go forward
with this joint meeting as the City Commission had indicated its desire to dissolve the DDS.
Consensus was to have the joint meeting on April 26. 1993.
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ITEM VII. . Executive Director ReDorts
A. Bilgora Property
Ads' offering the Bilgore Property were run in various publications in the month of
February. Jerry Sternstein. Economic Development Director, indicated the ads did not garner
much interest in the property although he did talk to a few people. He indicated the' eRA had
purchased the property for $690,000.
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Member Berfield questioned whether or not the MAS Properties people had been
contacted as they were interested in developing apartments downtown which had been
pursued for the ~ilgore property at one time. It was indicated they had not been contacted
regarding the Bilgore property. .
Member Thomas suggested abatement of taxes as a way of attracting people to the
CRA district. He felt this abatement would be based on the desirability of the client and the
development. He questioned the Executive Director regarding the desirability of improving the
Police Department facilities and whether or not Countryside was still be considered for
expansion. The Executive Director responded that money has been set aside for the'
expansion of the training facility at the Countryside substation however, if he had his
"druthers", he would relocate that facility more centrally. His real preference would be to
abandon the current Police Department building and to build on the Annex site.
o Member Thomas felt that abandoning the Police Department and combining this with
the Bilgore property would give a developer property with which to work.
Member Deegan expressed concern regarding direction given last fall to try and develop
the Bilgore Property as a mixed use facility. He did not feel that there was a need to change
that direction and .was disappointed that only ads had run. .
Phil Henderson, ex-officio member, stated he would like to see a presentation regarding
all CRA owned properties in order to come up with, a total plan.
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The Executive Director indicate:d he had delayed goal setting due to the change in
membership of the CRA, City Commission and DDB.
Members Barfield and Thomas agreed there was a need to set the direction of the eRA
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The Chairperson indicated this was just an update regarding the Bilgore site.
B. Annual report and Independent Financial Audit
The 'Executive Director reported that he, as City Manager/ is going to be recommending
replaCing Coopers & Lybrand as the City's external auditors as they have failed to perform
according to the contract. It \/yas indicated the CRA's financial audit is included in the City's
overall financial audit.
Member Deegan indicated hls concerns are what are the rules for the trust fund. He
. also expressed concerns regarding Margaret Simmon's memorandum of April 13th responding
to questions rega'rding the annual report and audit indicating it would appear that we are
following some state statutes in one regard and others in another. The Executive Director
indicated he would research this.
Member Deegan again emphasized that 11s wanted to know what the CRA's
responsibilities are. The Executive Director indicated the state statute regarding the CRA has
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been amended several times and it was indicated tile entire statute as it now exist's will be
sent to the .CRA.
Member Deegan indicated the City Attorney needed to keep the members more up to
date on changes in state law that affect them.
The City Attorney indicated he would respond regarding Ms. Simmon's memo.
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C. Retail Recruitment
Jerry Sternstein. Economic Development Director, indicated he has instituted what he
is calling a mini-recruitment effort. He stated he is using a program called Retail Tract tl1at
indicates companies interested in doing something in a downtown and in Florida. He has sent
letters to everyone who has indicated this type of interest and he is beginning follow-up
telephone calls. He further reported he has set up a meeting with local real estate agents to
discuss the program. He stated he has been gratified with the response.
The Chairperson raised a question regarding DDB 'action regarding a' contract with Ms.
Hackett. Ex-officio member Henderson indicated the DDB has hired Ms. Hackett'to do a study
regarding what people want downtown.
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Mr. Sternstein indicated he felt this was a viable mini-program and suggested that if
there were particular pieces of property the CRA wished to market, he could include that in
'his packet of information. He also stated that once incentives are determined, those can be
included in the packet.
The Executive Director indicated this was a report to the CRA. He stated things will
change as Mr. Sternstein begins to deal with the real estate community and dividing the leads
among them. .
Member Tho.mas suggested all leads be turned over to all property owners with
property for rent in the downtown area, simultaneously.
The Executive Director also indicated Mr. Sternstein was thoroughly investigating a
discount mall on the Annex site, howeVfH, when the City Commission made the decision to
have City Hall at the Annex, that effort was halted. Mr. Sternstein indicated there is a
d~fference between discount and outlet malls and he will still be doing a report.
, ITEM VIII. - Discussion Items
A. Member Thomas' list
Member Thomas has submitted a list of topics to the Commission including change in
the rules of conduc~; establishing a definitive plan for the CRA to follow; the agency consider
establishi'ng its own Executive Director paid for by, and reporting to, the CRA; expanding the
CRA to include resort and commercial districts on Clearwater Beach and having ex-officio
members on the CRA from the downtown and the beach.
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Member Thomas indicated several of his sugges~ions overlap Member Deegan's. He
distributed a new set of rules of procedure for the CRA to consider. He stated.the significant
changes are that the board elect a Chairperson on an annual basis and the agency hire its own
Executive Director. Ho stated in regard to the CRA having a full-time Executive Director, that
this would sunset payment to the General"Fund for the Economic Development Director, He
stated he has added Robert/sRules of Order to the procedures and indicated that in his
suggested rules, the CRA would meet prior to every City Commission meeting and
worksession. He felt that key people from the DDS should be brought into the CRA. He
indicated he was not expecting action on the rules today but rather to distribute them and
give the remaining members a chance to read them.
B. Member Deegan's Memo
Member Deegan indicated he was going to ask for action regarding the items in his
memorandum as the agency members have had it for at least a week and time to consider the.
proposals. He stated in his memorandum he makes point's as to how he feels the CRA has
not governed in the way it should have. Member Deegan also indicated he felt the CRA can
use its 'monies for marketing.
Member Berfield said she agreed with Member Deegan and stated there were some of
the same suggestions in Member Thomas' proposal.
The Chairperson agreed now is the time for ~ different direction and indicated that in
: the first few years of the CRA, there was little money to worry about.
Member Deegan moved to return to the original intent by having regular meetings of
the eRA prior to each meeting of the City Commission for the purpose of more closely
monitoring what follows. The motion was duly seconded.'
Member Fitzgerald and Chairperson Garvey questioned meeting prior to each
. Commission meeting. Chairperson Garvey also expressed concern regarding how to schedule
the meetings as the Commission meetings begin at 6:00 p.rn.
Member Deegan amended his motion to state that there wo~ld be one hour meetings
prior to the Commission meeting with those hour meetings scheduled to start at 4:30 p.m.
The seconder accepted the amendment.
Upon the vote ,being taken on the amended motion, it carried unanimously.
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Me.mber Deegan moved to hire a full~time CRA Executive Director reporting directly to
the Trustees of the CRA. The motion was duly seconded.
Member Fitzgerald questioned how to arrive at the salary for the Executive Director and
Member Deegan indicated this w'ould be during the normal hiring process and decided at a
CRA meeting.
Upon the vote being taken, the motion carried unanimow.ly.
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The Executive Director suggested an orderly transition period with the new Executive
Director starting at the beginning of the next fiscal year, October 1, 1993.
Member Thomas suggested that on a trial basis, Mr. Sternstein serve as Executive
Director. Member Deegan indicated he did not wish to wait until October 1 and requested this
be discussed' further at the May 6, 1993 CRA meeting. It was stated that until a full~time
. Executive Director is hired, Mr. Wright would continue as the part-time Executive Director.
Member Deegan moved to cancel funding for the Office of Economic Development to
provide the funds needed once a full-time Executive Director is hired. The motion was duly
seconded and carried unanimously.
The Executive Director requested direction regarding the job qualifications. Direction
was for him to provide a draft of the job description and qualifications and the eRA would
amend them as they deemed appropriate.
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Member Deegan moved to redefine the role of the DDS to act as a business
development committee of the CRA while maintaining its independent status.
Member Deegan elaborated on his motion stating that while they have been told the
board is independent, the DDS is now requesting direction and it was felt that them acting as
a business development committee would give them a stronger role to fulfill. Member
Thomas indicated that whether or not the DDS is sunsetted, they could continue' as the
business development committee. The motion was duly seconded.
Member Thomas questioned ex-officio member Henderson regarding whether ,or not a
survey had been completed. Mr. Henderson indicated this would need to be discussed with
the DDS and the ioint meeting on April 26 is taking the place of the regular DDS meeting.
Chairperson Garvey indicated that she felt decisions regarding this should wait until
DDS input.
Member Deegan withdrew his motion.
Ex-officio member Henderson indicated he would make a copy of the pro'posal from
Judy Hackett regarding the study she is to do.
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Member Deegan moved to request the DDS to hjre a marketing director to be
responsible for retention and recruitment and to take day to day direction from the Executive
Director of the eRA. The motion was duly seconded.
Chairperson Garvey requested this also wait until the DDS can provide input. Ex-officio
member Henderson indicated this could be discussed at the joint meeting.
Member Deegan withdrew his motion and requested this be agendaed for April 26,
1993. '
Chai~person Garvey questioned what the definition of a business development board to
be and Member Deegan indicated he would provide that definition.
Member Deegan moved to continue accounting support for the CRA from City st&ff but
reimburse the General Fund for this activity. The motion was duly seconded.
The Executive Director questioned whether or not this should be expanded to include
all other City staff that provides support to the CRA.
Member Deegan amended his motion to "accounting and other staff support except the
City Manager and City Attorney It . The seconder accepted the motion.
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The Executive Director questioned whether or not the General Fund should be paid for
the time for designing the site plan for the Kravas laC It was indicated these reimbursements
should be for future efforts. It was also indicated that as future projects come up, it will be
decided on a case by case basis whether or not to reimburse the General Fund.
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Upon the vote being taken, the amended motion carried unanimously.
Member Deegan moved to investigate the use of a sma'! business incubator to provide,
consulting services to both present an'd prospective businesses. The motion was duly
seconded.
The Chairperson suggested this was something the new Executive Director should look
at. Member Deegan indicated he felt Mr. Sternstein could immediately investigate this issue.
Member Thomas indicated he will be bringing forward to the City Commission for
consideration, a methodology for approaching new business in Clearwater that would go
further than the incubator.
The Executive Director requested clarification regarding what type of incubator as he
knows of three: research and development, retail and service. It was the consensus that the
latter two, including service and manufacturing, should be pursued.
Upon the vote being taken, the motion carried unanimously.
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. Member Deegan moved to make a formal request to the State' to retur~ Cleveland
. Street to the City an~ begin planning to redesign Cleveland Street to permit on~street parking.
. Member Deegan stated he realized the State has indicated action on this request would,
have to wait until after the com'pletion of the one-way pair study currently being done in,
connection with the Drew Street widening project but he did not feel it should delay the
request.
Chairperson Garvey expressed opposition stating this has been discussed before and
, , she has concerns regarding the cost and impact of this. She stated it is not a simple thing
and that parking on Cleveland Street would not save downtown.
Member Fitzgerald felt that information from DOT should be obtained before action
being taken. He stated he also did not feel that on-street parking w~uld save downtown.
Member Thomas questioned whether or not the CRA could request this and whether or
not the Commission would have, to take action.
The Exe,cutive Director indicated the eRA does not own streets but the City doe~ and
. that the City' Commission would have to also make the request. Direction was provided to
agenda this for the next City Commission meeting.
, Member Deegan stated he did not feel anyone thing would save downtown but each
thing contributes overall.
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The Executive Director requested a definition regarding what span of road was to be
considered.
Member Deegan amend~d his motion to be specific to remove the State Road 60
designation from Clevela,nd/Gulf-to-Bay, from Highland Avenue to the bay.
, Upon the vote being taken upon the amended motion, Members Berfield, Deegan and
Thomas voted "Ayell, Member Fi,tzgerald and Chairperson Garvey voted "Nay".' Motion
carried.
Member Deegan moved to create a public/private partnership. The motion was duly
seconded. '
Member' Deegan gave examples of the types of things that this public/private
'partnership could do to include: inviting a bank consortium to set up a revolving fund to
provide working captial for small businesses, applying for a planning grant from the State,
enacting ordinances to' permit incentives and to request utilities to provide incentives within
their power. .
Member Thomas ind.icated that sfate laws govern community development
'corporations which are extremely useful tools but could take some time to dav,slop. .
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Member Berfield questioned whether or not this was similar to an organization in
, Columbus, Ohio. The Executive Director indicated it would depend on how the partnership is
established.
Chairperson Garvey indicated there would be some people who have a problem' with
their names being public prior to them making definite decisions about relocation.
Upon the vote being taken, the motion carried unanimously.
Member Thomas moved to direct that the eRA be expanded to include the commercial
and resort .districts of Clearwater Beach.
Chairperson Garvey suggested thi's be looked into rather than taking definitive action at
this time.
Member Thomas indicated he' felt that redevelopment ln' Clearwater would not truly
occur unless the downtown and the beach are developed as a package.
Member Deegan expressed opposition to the expansion but said he is interested in '
doing something on the beach. He s~ated the Clearwater Beach Blue Ribbon Task Force had
suggested that Planning look into a special development district for this area.
Member Thomas felt that the CRA tools would be beneficial on the beach.
The Executive Director indicated there are two concepts. One, the CRA which is a tax
increment financing district or an overlay taxing district. He stated it took years for the CRA
to build up funds through this tax increment process and that it has a limited life. He stated a
s!3parate CRA on the beach would provide u longer life for that particular district.
Member Deegan- requested that research be done and that alternatives be provided.
Member Thomas withdrew his motion.
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proposed regarding redevelopment for Clearwater Beach. He clarified this would include
resort and commercial areas, not residential.
The Executive Director pointed out' that resort/commercial districts are also considered
to'be residential in some regards and it was indicated that those districts would be included.
The motion wasduly ~econded.
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