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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEAL,
BUILDING/FLOOD CONTROL .
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 1995
Members Present'
John Logan, Chairman
Michael Corcoran
Andrew Nicholson
P. J. Shah
Edward Walker.
Members Absent:
None.
Others- Present:
Arthur F. Kammer, regarding 1910 Overbrook case
Mark C. Koeller, regarding.1910 Overbrook case'
Curtis Jenney, regarding'1910 Overbrook case
Edie Solovick, regarding'1910 Overbrook case
Roy Cadwell, representing 1910'Overbrook case
Priscella Cadwell, representing 1910 Overbrook case
Graham Clift, Walker & Associates, representing Yacht Basin Apts.
Victor C. Chodora, Assistant Director, Central Permitting
Kevin Garriott, Central Permitting Supervisor
Vern Packer, Inspector, Central Permitting
Bill Wright, Inspector, Central Permitting
John Witkowski, Inspector, Central Permitting
Freddie Hinson, Community Response Team
Barbara Borgan,' Recording Secretary
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Logan at 2:15 p.m.
1. 1910 Overbrook Avenue, Clearwater, Florida - Cadwell
Properties, Ltd., Owner. Roy and Priscella as interested
party.' Request to appeal the building official's notice
of unsafe building.' Located in Sunset Point 2nd Addition
Subdivision, Block G, Lot 63 , . Parcel ## :
03/29/15/88128/007/0630.
Mr: Cadwell explained whether we are entitled to continue the
subject property which they, have, had for 30 years and purchased as
a mean of supplementing their retirement income and now the
question is before the board of 'whether it should be demolished'
without any compensation and whether the City, at the present time,
has the right to demolish it. He went onto say within the last
month the property has been rented as,it is a duplex and the upper
and lower apartments and the rents are'$400.00 per month which on
an actuarial basis and if you multiply that by 10 that.gives you
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the value of the property. Mr. Logan interjected and, again, asked
Mr. Cadwell to state what his request is for. Mr. Cadwell stated
the wants the board to grant his appeal and if necessary, to make
a physical inspection of the property that they would do so. Mr.
Cadwell stated if the board was unable to grant the appeal
indefinitely, that the board would, at least, give them two years
,to recoup some of the money they have already spent on this
property.. If it were to be demolished it would be simply we've
simply wasted our money. Mr. Cadwell stated he did not mind
spending money on the property but he does not like wasting it.
Victor Chodora made a general comment explaining that we have a
building over 30 years old and has not had very little or no
maintenance to it. The termites have basically destroyed the
building and is in danger of collapsing. The tenants were evicted
from the building approximately 15 days ago.
Vern Packer spoke about the history of the, case. This case has
been going on since July 12, 1993. The case had appeared before
the board when Mr. Cadwell was appealing the housing report. When
that appeal was denied we continued to seek compliance for the
repairs mentioned in the original report. That was not
accomplished and we then went to the Code Enforcement Board. The
Code Enforcement Board heard the case and found Mr. Cadwell in
violation of the items that were listed and they gave him a
compliance date of October 20, 1994, to make the repairs., The
repairs were not made, in fact the Code Enforcement Board made an
order that the building, the bottom unit, not be occupied until the
repairs were made. The unit was rented anyway. At that point we
cited the building as an unsafe structure and we had the tenants
leave the premises and cited Mr. Cadwell with an unsafe building.
Mr. Packer then stated there were recent photographs of the
property and proceeded to show the photographs. Mr. Packer showed
Mr. Cadwell, the photos first. Mr. Cadwell made several comments
and questions regarding the photographs, asking about Mr. Packer's
report, what report they were in, what areas do the pictures cover,
trying to ascertain a'dimension from Mr. 'Packer. Mr. Cadwell
continued to ask Mr. Packer questions as to the structure being
rodent proof, and if there was a hole in the wall, disputing what
the pictures actually show. A picture came up with the posted
notice, Mr.,Cadwell asked about the ordinance justifying.to post
the building. Mr. Packer stated he as well as Mr. Chodora have
given Mr. Cadwell copies of the requested ordinances. Mr. Cadwell
stated he has not received them. Mr. Cadwell continues to question
Mr. Packer about the structure, if Mr. Packer has been to the
structure recently and if it is in accordance with the ordinance.
Mr. Packer assures Mr. Cadwell the structure is not in compliance
and Mr. Cadwell states Mr. Packer is seeing a different wall than
Mr. Cadwell knows. At that point the pictures are passed around to
each board member.
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Curtis Jenney, 1911 Cverbrook Avenue, then spoke to the board. Mr.
Jenney lives across the street. Mr. Jenney states the neighborhood
is in a transition stage and is improving. The property owners in
the same block have all made improvements to their houses and
improve the neighborhood that was questionable 10 to 15 years ago.
His mother-in-law, Edie Solovick, who was also present purchased
the house he presently lives in 17 years ago and has made continual
improvements. The concerns Mr. Jenney has is the.subject structure
seems to be a dangerous structure. Mr. Jenney feels 'the owners
have owned a property and benefitted from the income of that
property without putting any type of maintenance monies back into
the property, to continue a safe condition. Mr. Jenney states
there have been other problems with the type of people living in
the structure. The lower unit is crumbling under the upper unit.
Mr. Logan asks Mr. Jenney if he concurs with the city's assessment
of the building being an unsafe building, Mr. Jenney replies
absolutely.. Mr. Jenney asks something be done regarding this
structure as quickly as possible.
Mark Koeller, also living across the street, and he stated he
supports the city 100 on this. Mr. Koeller states the sooner the,
better something gets done about this.
Mr. Logan then reads from a letter from Scott Shuford, Director of
Central Permitting, stating unsafe structures devalue surrounding
properties, create a hazardous environment for nearby residents,
and contribute to the blighting of the city. Consequently, we have
revised our code requirements, to expedite the removal or
alternately require code compliance as fast as legally possible.
Arthur Kammer laving 1146 Sunset Point Road which is adjacent to
the subject property. This is on the'' north side. When he
purchased his house and moved in he felt,ilike he was moving,in to
Tobacco Road. His house was a wreck and had been vandalized. He
has been there a year and a half and it was to be his home but it
is absolutely impossible to stay there because of what goes on next
door to him. The type of people Mr. Cadwell rents to are trash in
plain English. This is what he has been up against and has put his
house up for sale. He can not sell it as people look next door and
question what type of place it is. Mr. Kammer also concurs with
the city assessment.
Mr. Jenney again states his feeling about going to the city and
asking for a revaluation to. reduce the value of their property
because of the condition of the subject property.
Mr. Walker questions Mr. Chodora regarding the status of the time
frame as far as the next step. Mr. Chodora states if the board
upholds his decision the next step is to obtain a title search and
asbestos report. This usually takes two to three weeks. If there
is no asbestos then we would go directly out for bids for
demolition which takes about three to four weeks. The actual
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demolition the contractor has 20 days to complete the work. We are
looking at the city's standpoint of view at approximately three
months before we can demolish the building.
Mr. Nicholson states he has heard facts and reviewed the file and
photographs and says 'there is no evidence of any monies being spent
on this property following the building code. This is not an
economic issue to begin with, this is a technical board and our
concern is safety, public safety, and a safe structure. We try to
accommodate when we see people moving quickly and really working to
make it safe. We heard this matter a year and a half ago and these
items were discussed and although some money may have been spent,
it was not spent in any kind of correct action to make it correct.
We should be looking mainly at safety of the structure'from Mr.
Nicholson's view.
Mr. Chodora stated the property appraiser has the building and land
valued at approximately $26,000 and the estimated costs range from
any where from $16,000 to $35,000 for repairs, which is more than
50% of the value of the structure according to our ordinance which
allows us to demolish it.
Mr. Packer states the property according to the property
appraiser's office the structure was built in 1925. They have 1994
year improvements of $14,800 and for the land $11,200 fora total
assessment of $26,000, printed January 10, 1995. Mr. Packer also
states the city has been to three different board concerning this
structure.
Mr. Nicholson asks if there is any further discussion that it be
directly to the safety of the structure within the next couple of
days or not.
Mr. Walker states confusion over the fact it was brought before the
board in October 1993. Mr. Chodora states that was for housing.
This was initially written as a housing report. and gave Mr. Cadwell
the opportunity to make repairs. Mr. Cadwell appealed that
decision and felt there were no housing code violations.
Mr. Logan stated this is the first time the board has had an unsafe
building situation.
Mr. Packer states the city is not out to demolish structures but to
have safe, affordable housing. We followed the due process
requirements. • Mr. Cadwell has had the opportunity to make the
repairs which was not accomplished. For the record there is a fine
of $250 a day running against the bottom unit as we speak. Mr.
Cadwell has not complied with the code board. That started October
20,,1994 because of non-compliance.'
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Mr. Walker moved with regard to the request for the property
located at 1910 Overbrook Avenue in Clearwater, owned by Cadwell
Properties, Limited,•the board finds within its authority to act
upon the request and the request for variance from the building
department's determination of unsafe building be denied. Mr. Logan
asked if Mr. Walker's motion upholds the decision of the building
department that this an unsafe•structure. Mr. Walker acknowledged
yes., The motion was seconded by Mr. Shah and was the request to
deny was approved unanimously.
2. 501 Mandalay Avenue, Yacht Basin Apartments, Clearwater,
Florida - Lima Lake, Inc., Owner. Representative, Graham
Clift, Walker &• Associates. Variance request to
construct toilet rooms for proposed pool per the health
department's requirements for toilets. Construct toilet
floor below required 11' base flood elevation. Located
in Yacht Basin Subdivision, Lots 1-9, • Parcel ##:
05/29/99216/000/0010.
Mr. Walker is abstaining from this presentation.
Mr. Graham C1ift, with Walker and Associates Architects in Safety
Harbor, Florida. The owner's of the Yacht Basin Apartments are
hoping to build a swimming pool and in order to do that they will
need toilet facilities for.thati swimming pool. We are requesting
a variance on • the height of the floor of the toilets at 6.8' in ,
lieu of the required elevation of 111.
Mr. Nicholson stated this is a very common request but special
attention needs to be paid to the utilities with respect to
floodproofing, electrical,or sewer.
Mr. Nicholson made the motion that the request 'for the variance of
the height restriction of x1' in that zone be granted within the
power of the board to act. Pay special attention to utility
adjustments for electrical or sewer which may be need to be made as
a flood hazard.
Mr. Shah asked Mr. Chodora what was the building department's
recommendation? Mr. Chodora stated our city ordinances allows for
non-residential structures to be placed below the base flood
elevation as long as they are flood proofed, that the variance is
from Chapter 39. Mr. Nicholson stated it was listed in Chapter 39
in Zone 3.
The motion was seconded by Mr. Corcoran and passed unanimously.
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1 3. 602 Marshall Street, Clearwater, Florida - Paul S. Charles and
Robert S. Mitchell, Owners. Leonard Bauman, Representative.
Owners-wish extension of time to complete unsafe housing
notice. Property in' present condition due to, fire.
Negotiations with the insurance company is not complete.
Located in Norwood Subdivision, Block A, Lot 8, Parcel
10/29/15/61740/001/0080.
Mr. Packer went to look for any representatives for this case.
Mr. Packer returned to the meeting without any representative.
Mr. Packer stated Mr. Bauman, the representative for the owners,
indicated to him they were looking for a variance of time. The
case is damage. from a fire and an. insurance claim settlement. They,
are not disputing the unsafe notice which was sent, they needed
time to get the money from the insurance company. The unsafe
letter went out in November 1994. Florida State Insurance
Adjustors' is the insurance company involved and the actual
applicant for the variance of time., The length of time was not
discussed with Mr: Packer, who assumed the representatives would be
here for the board meeting.
Mr. Walker asked Mr. Chodora if a variance is not granted at this
time what happens? Mr. Chodora stated we would then start the
procedure to take corrective action and demolition.
Conversation ensued with the board members regarding time frames to
be granted or not to be granted regarding the time variance
request.
A specific length of time was not requested in the application
paperwork.
Mr. Nicholson moved that, with respect to an 'application for an
extension of time for 30 days to submit permit applications for the
repairs of 602 Marshall Street and if permits are issued then an
additional 60 days is granted for construction.
The motion was seconded by Mr. Shah and was passed unanimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 3:10PM.
6JAn Logan, hairman arbara Borgan
Recording Secretary
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