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CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING
June 9, 1992
The City Commission of the City of Clearwater met 8t City Hall with the following members
present:
Rita Garvey
Richard Fitzgerald
Lee Regulski
Sua Berfield
Arthur X. Deegan, II
Mayor/Commissioner
Vice-Mayor/Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Also present were:
Michael J. Wright
M. A. Galbraith, Jr.
Cynthia E. Goudeau
City Manager
City Attorney
City Clerk
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 p.m. for the purpose of discussing purchasing
the Sun Bank Building.
The City Manager stated that while there is not an absolute need for a CitY Hall, there
are significant reasons to acquire one. There has been City Commission discussion for at least
six years regarding the desire for a consolidated City Hall and Willingham and Associates was
hired to do a space needs study.
He stated based on these six years of discussions, he is recommending the purchase
of the Sun Bank Building. He is making this recommendation as he feels it is a prudent
. decision as the building meets the City needs and there is room for expansion.
Development on the City Hall Annex site can not proceed until a decision is made
regarding where to locate the employees in the current annex building. He stated the
recommendation of the Willingham study proposes consolidation of the facilities currently
located at the City Hall Annex, City Hall, Utilities Building and the Graphics/Purchasing
Building.
Projections at the time of the study were that 341 employees housed in the building
would require a building of 130,684 square feet. He stated this has been downsized and now
the proposal is to house 28 ~ employees in the building.
He stated the Sun Bank Building has an outstanding mortgage of $16 million, was
appraised at mars than $11 million and is on the tax rolls at a little over $10 million. This
includes the building and a portion of the parking garage. He stated renovations would need
an additional $1.3 million which would be paid from the cash flow from existing leases in the
building.
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He stated after subtracting all operating costs, projected cash flow over the next four
years is 3 to 4 million dollars. Once renovations are done, the cash flow would be $ 1.7 to
$2.7 million dollars. If the Sun Bank Building is purchased, he would propose to sell at teast
two of the sites to be consolidated, those two properties being the annex and the utilities
property. There have been some suggestions regarding the current City Hall. One is to use
it as an administrative support building for the library. Also, Calvary Baptist Church and
Pinellas County may be interested in purchasing the property.
He stated he was prompted to start looking at existing buildings after reading
Hillsborough County was renting existing space rather than building a new building. Several
buildings were looked at but for the size and price, Sun Bank Building is considered to be the
best purchase.
The City Manager indicated he had also discussed renting space and that to house the
annex employees would cost $400,000 to $500,000 a year. Once all the departments are
consolidated, he believes the City can save over $200.000 a year in operating costs plus
capital costs to replace roofs and air conditioning units In the existing facilities will be avoided.
He stated that in considering purchasing this building. his recommendation is that the
City become tenants in the building for the next four years. in that, the City would own the
property but would retain property management services. This wilt allow the current leases
to be maintained. There will be ample parking for the facility.
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He stated in order to pay for the building, staff had been able to identify a little more
than $10 million that could be available. He stated this was done without stripping out other
funds or limiting options for the future.
He reiterated he believed the building was of sufficient size to meet the City's needs.
It is important that it is located in the core of downtown and in proximity to other City
facilities, that it can be purchased for $9.8 million and that after paying operating costs and
renovation cost, an additional $1.7 to $2.7 million in cash flow will be generated.
In response to a question. it was indicated that loss of interest on the $10 million had
not been taken into account.
It was stated the building can be purchased for $50 to $60 a square foot and it was
questioned what the cost of construction would be. The City Manager reported the State
building recently constructed in Largo cost approximately $70 a square foot without land and
if the value of the land were added. it cost $92.50 per square foot.
Concerns have been raised regarding the square footage per employee being considered
and how this building compared to those in Hillsborough County. The City Manager indicated
he had called the County Administrator in Hillsborough and their square footage per employee
was 200 square feet while Clearwater's was 210. He stated their overall figures had been
based on net space while Clearwater's figures were on gross square footage.
A statement was made that the interest on the $1.0 million would compound to $3.28
million and that the continued operation of the annex would have to be subtracted from this.
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The City Manager Indicated he would recommend the annex be closed 8S soon 8S possible and
the remaining City staff systematically occupy the rest of the building as leases expire.
Nineteen citizens, Including representatives of the Coalition of Homeowners, the
Clearwater Beach Association and the Harbor Oaks Homeowners Association, spoke In
opposition to the purchase of the building indicating it would be contrary to State law and the
Intention of the CRA; that it would take property off the tax rolls; that the money would be
better spent on other projects; that there is no need for a new City Hall; the purchase would
not help revitalize downtown; the price was too high and there was opposition to the way in
which the purchase was proposed and the use of "Penny for PineUas" funds. Two reports
addressing space needs and renovation cost commissioned by the Clearwater Beach
Association were distributed.
Nineteen citizens, including representatives of the Chamber of Commerce, the
Downtown Clearwater Association, the Downtown Development Board and the four City
employee unions, spoke in favor of purchasing the building stating there was a need for a new
facility: that consolidation of the City offices would improve efficiency and service to the
citizens; purchase of the building would address the American with Disabilities Act's
requirements; it would help revitalize and stimulate downtown; there is a need to retocate the
employees in the annex in order to develop the annex property; that purchase of the building
. would be good for the image of Clearwater; it would help tourism; the price and location are
excellent and there would be spin-off benefits from this purchase. Pictures were shown
indicating some of the deficiencies of the current facilities.
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Four citizens spoke requesting a decision be delayed and requesting further study as
there are still unanswered questions. There was a suggestion made that a task force be
appointed to study the need for a new City Hall and if this purchase is the best for the citizens
of Clearwater.
One citizen spoke questioning what would be developed on the annex property and
stated that monies need to go back into the community.
One citizen spoke indicating that if there was a need for the new City Hall, the building
should be purchased but that all needs of the City should be addressed.
A representative of the seller of the building spoke indicating they have worked with
tha City for several months and the City has done a thorough job in getting aU the information
together. He stated the price is a very good deal and it will cost less to purchase this building
than to build a new one. He stated the June 30th deadline is a real date and the owners of
the property intend to place the property on the market after that time.
In response to a question, the City Attorney indicated that use of the "Penny for
Pine lias " funds was proper.
A question was raised regarding the outstanding CRA bonds for the Sun Bank Building.
Dan Deignan, Finance Director, indicated that as it currently stands, the debt service on the
bonds will remain in place until the year 2007. eRA revenues will be sufficient to payoff the
debt service even if the Sun Bank Building property is off ,of the tax rolls.
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A question was raised regarding whether or not a referendum would be required. It
was indicated 8 referendum would not be required for 8 cash purchase of this building.
Should it be decided to issue general obligation bonds, 8 referendum would be required. If
revenue bonds were issued to pay for the building, It would meet the public health and safety
exemption and therefore a referendum would not be required.
It was suggested the Commission first resolve the issue regarding whether or not there
is 8 need for a new City Hall.
Discussion ensued regarding the need for a new City Hall with opinions being
expressed that there was need to consolidate the facilities to improve efficiency, services to
the citizens and working conditions for the employees. Some conCerns were expressed that
while working conditions and efficiency needed to be improved, there may not be the need
for a new facility.
A question was raised regarding although there is a need, if purchasing the Sun Bank
Building is the best decision. A suggestion was made the City consider building a new City
Hall on what is commonly called the Bilgore property.
It was stated that the issue of tonight"s meeting was the purchase of the Sun Bank
Building but there was some feeling that decision could not be made until the need for a
consolidated facility was established.
Commissioner Fitzgerald moved that the Commission establish that there is a need for
a consolidated City Hall for the future of the City. The motion was duly seconded and carried
unanimously.
Commissioner Regulski moved to deny the recommendation to purchase the Sun Bank
Building. The motion was duly seconded.
Discussion ensued regarding the motion with concerns being expressed that to not
purchase this building would be a missed opportunity. It was stated that although the building
may be in excess of what the City needs, it can be purchased at a lesser price than a smaller
building could be built. It was also stated that purchase of this building will go 8 long way
to address the Americans with Disabilities Act. Meeting those requirements in the existing
four facilities will be much more difficult and more expensive.
It was stated it was felt that purchase of this building would be good for the image of
Clearwater, that it would free up the annex property for development and that consolidation
of services in one building would be more efficient and would provide for better service to the
citizens of Clearwater. Concerns were expressed that if the building is not purchased, building
a new facility would be a lengthy process.
Opinions wer.e expressed that purchasing this facility would not be the starting point
of revitalization of downtown. Concerns were also expressed that the Sun Bank Building was
not energy efficient and a memorandum from the Energy Office was referred to.
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There were also concerns that there were renovation costs involved and there were
things In the building that needed to be fixed according to 8 report from the City's Consulting
Engineer.
Concerns were also expressed regarding a bar currently leasing a portion of the
property.
Concerns were also expressed regarding the construction of the building; It being 8
glass wall with pins that would rust. Removing the property from the tax rolls was also
considered to be a negative aspect of this purchase.
It was also stated that it was felt that the tax roll value of the property given to the
Commission was too low and based on 1991 figures not 1992 figures.
In response to the question regarding the value of the property according to the tax
rolls, it was indicated there are two parcels, the one on which the building is located and the
parking garage. Dan Deignan, Finance Director, indicated he had checked the assessed value
of the property today and that it had increased over the past year and was a little more than
$10.2 mHlion.
In response to the concerns expressed regarding the memorandum from the Energy
Office, the City Manager indicated that this memorandum had not been forwarded by the
General Services Director because it was felt the assumptions used in the memo were
inaccurate.
. In response to questions, the City Manager indicated the recommendation is to allow
existing leases, including the one for the First National Bar, to expire normally and the current
property manager be retained. The cost for the property manager has been included in the
cash flow projections.
Concerns were also expressed regarding whether or not the City was comfortable that
the leases in the building could not be broken. It was indicated the leases have been
examined and there are in favor of the property owner but it would not prevent somebody
from attempting to break their lease. However, the City could take enforcement action if this
is the case.
Further discussion ensued with it being indicated that there is some feeling that there
is a great need for consolidation but there is also a need for additional information.
Upon the vote being taken to deny the recommendation, Commissioners Deegan and
Regulski voted "Aye": Commissioners Fitzgerald, Berfield and Mayor Garvey voted "Nay".
Motion faUed.
Commissioner Fitzgerald moved to continue this item to the meeting of June 18, 1992.
The motion was duly seconded and carried unanimously.
The City Manager requested that in order to have all information available for the
meeting of June 18th, that the Commission indicate to him tonight the information they need.
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The following information was requested: 1) Recomputed cash flow taking Into
account Interest lost on the $10 million adjusted by the amount not saved by continued
operation of the annex; 2) Response to and/or verification of the Energy Office memorandum;
3) Verify value of the Sun Bank Building; 4) How the Sun Bank Building meets the Americans
with Disabilities Act; 6) Cost of needed repairs to the building noted In the consulting
engineer's report: 6) Closing date. closing cost and whether another broker would be involved;
7) Response to reports submitted by Clearwater Beach Association; 8) Additional Information
regarding occupied square footage in current faciJities; 9) posslbllity of option to purchase; 10)
How would programs currently conducted In the City Hall Annex Community Room be
accommodated; 1 1) Sample lease of Sun Bank tenants; 12) How will taxes from lessees be
collected; and 13) Cash purchase compared to Issuing bonds for purchase.
The meeting adjourned at l' :04 p.m.
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