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7z30 p.m.
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Minutes 'of Parks and Recreation Board Meeting of November 25, 1986
2.
, Reports
A. David Martin Soccer Field - Oiscussion of 'Dedication Ceremony
B.'8ai1in9 Center - Draft of informational packet distributed to
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c. Charter Oaks Park - Con'~ideration of recommending official name
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purch~se
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PARKS AND RECR~ATI0N BOARD
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Monday, January 27th, 1986
The regular meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board WOB
held at the Parks and Recreation Office at the City Hn11 Annex on
Monday, January 27th, 1986 at 7:30 p.m. Members prescnt included
Mr. Eric Ford, Mr. Murray Fuchs, Mr. Mark Legue, Co-Chairperson
Elizabeth McMahon, Mr. Dorr Snoyenbos, Mrs. Jacquelyn Tobin and
Co-Chairperson Charles Wood. Dr. Ira Berger and Dr. LaMar
MacNutt were unable to attend. Mr. Ream Wilson was alBo in
a.ttendance.
Ms. McMahon called the meeting to order and asked for a
motion regarding the minutes of November 25th, 1985. Mr. Fuchs
moved that these minutes be approved as mailed. Mr. Snoyenbos
seconded the motion which passed.
Ms. McMahon turned the meeting over.to Mr. Wilson for
reports.
David Martin Soccer Field - Mr. Wilson thanked Board members
for their input in helping to organize the dedication ceremony of
the "David Martin Soccer Field". Special thanks went to Dr.
MacNutt who was in contact with the Martin family and to Eric
Ford for his assistance in scheduling the soccer activities.
Members who were present at the ceremony expressed t~eir ,feelings
that it was well done and most appropriate.
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Sailing Center - A draft of the informational packet
'regarding the proposed sailing center was distributed to all
Boara'members with the meeting agenda. Mr. Wilson showed members
~th~ preliminary site plan and explained that further changes will
quite likely be made. He also indicated that the plan would not
b~ ~ubmitted to the City Commission for consideration until such
time as an informational packet was completed.' This packet would
explai~ the purpose of the center, management. charges, revenues.
'etc..- 'He asked for comments from Board members regarding the
packet draft. Mr. Legue stated that he had used the property on
numerous occasions to sail an 18'" boat he previously" owned. He
ex p' res sed a con c ern t hat the par kin gar e ash 0 w non. the sit e p 1 an
'might not be sufficient for the public on days when a regatta is
'in progr~Bs. Mr. Wilson responded that regattas are fairly
infrequent and that overflow parking would be available to the
no~iti'of ~he paved lot. Mr. Legue spoke in favor of the proposed
sailing center and felt that persons using the facility would be
w~lling to pay a launch fee. He said primary reasons were that
,thefa~ility would provides secure and safe place for equipment
and properties. He asked if boats over 20' in length could be
accommodated and general discussion by the Board ensued. Co-
Chairperson Wood indicated that the plan haa always been to
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accommodate the smaller snilinH vessals, in particular, the Prom
Fleet. Other members expressed agrccmant and felt that limiting
the facility to vessels under 20~ to be appropriate. Mr. WilBon
explained that the sailing center committee has discus8ed various
ways of collecting launch fecs. Howeve,f) it~s difficult to
anticipate the number or amount of money to be collected in that
a similar facility docs not exist. He said that plans include
only one City employee being on the site at any time nnd that it
might be appropriate for fees to be paid in the office. Mr.
Legue respcinded that he would see no problem in this approach in
that persons arriving at the facility would just enter the office
to pay their launch fee before actually launching their
sailboats. Mrs. Tobin felt that there should be only one
entrance into the sailing center and that this entrance would
also be used for cars going into the overflow lot. This would
eliminate cars from turning immediately past the toll booth that
might cause traffic problems. Mr. Wilson stated that he had
discussed the one entrance situation with Mr. Crawford) City
Traffic Engineer) and Mr. Crawford proposed that the entrance be
immediately opposite the entrance of the Sand Key County Park.
Considerable discussion and interest was shown in this project by
Board members. Mr. Wilson stated that he would continue to
apprise the Board of future developments and that he hoped to
take it to the City Commission in the near future.
Charter Oaks Park - Mr. Wilson informed members that the
City Commission recently approved the expenditure of $3,000 in
park impact fees to develop a 1-1/2 acre park which has
previous'!y been referred to as "Charter Oaks Park". The facility
is located immediately across Hercules Avenue from Valencia Park
and,was dedicated to the City under the previous park dedication
ordinance. Mr. Wilson said that park improvements would be
limited to sidewalks) benches, trash containers) and an
identification sign. However, since a sign would be placed at
~he site"the park should have an official ~ame. He recommended
to Board members that the park be named "Charter Oaks Park" which
'I 1881so the name of the immediate subdivision. Members
considered this recommendation in view of Resolution #80-82 which
gives: the Paiks and Recreation Board, authority to make final
recommendations to the City Commission for names of all City park
and re~reation facilities. Since the proposed name met each of
'the"c:riteria'listed in the Resolution. Co-Chairperson Wood moved
that a recommendation b~ made to the City Commission for naming
the park "Charter Oaks Park". Hr. Legue seconded the motion
which passed. In further discussion, Mrs. Tobin suggested that a
wood ,chip path be considered across the park rather than a
sidewalk. Mr. Fuchs asked whether baby strollers, etc. could
,maneuver on 8 wood chip path. Mr. Wilson explained that
sidewalks will be placed around the perimeter right-oI-way of the
park and that strollers could use the sidewalks. Mrs. Tobin felt
that a wood chip path would be conducive to baby strollers and
Mr. Wilson 'stated that the suggestion would be considered.
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Properties - Members were informed that the Department iM
actively trying to determine various Rite~ thnt might be
available and npproprillte for the rccrention complex proposed by
Clearwater For Youth, Inc. Specifically, Clcarwatl!r l~or Youth
proposes to raiae in CKCCUB of $4,000,000 in private monies to
build 0 complete recrention complex if the City would make
approximately twenty acres of land available. Mr. Wilson said
that several siteB are being conSidered and that he would be
meeting with various homeowners associations to develop pros and
cons about some of the sites. Specifically, he mentioned that he
discussed the situation with Mr. Sid Snair, President of the
Coalition of Homeowners, who will be setting meetings witll two
different homeowners groups. Properties are not only being
investigated for the Clearwoter For Youth Project, but also 8S
possible sites for ,the relocation of facilities should the
Clearwater For Youth Project be located on an existing park. Mr.
Fuchs suggested that we look at Clearwater Airport property 8S a
possible site for the Clearwater For Youth Project. Mr. Wilson
responded that tall lightpoles would be in the way of the flight
pattern but that further consideration will be given to the site.
Mr. Fuchs informed members that the Airport property is in
litigation and that he felt it might become available. Other
members agreed but indicated that litigation might last for a
long period of time. Mr. Wilson responded that members would be
kept apprised of various sites and the pros and cons of each
s1 t e.,
Gift Catalog - Mr. Wilson distributed copies of the
Department's Gift Catalog and suggested that members might
promote the'brochure with people who might be interested in
making donations. Considerable donations have been received over
the past two years for areas such as Moccasin Lake Park. Also
various youth, groups have donated monies for improvement to their
own ,athletic. facilities. However, any assistance that Board
members could provide the program would be appreciated.
Adopt-A-Park Program - Mr. Wilson also reminded members of
the Adopt-A-Park Program which was approved by the Commission two
or three years ago. Twelve or thirteen homeowners associations
currently participate in maintaining small areas within their
neighborhoods, but the Department would like to expand the Adopt-
A-Park Program to include larger sites where maintenance might be
adopted by corporations, clubs, etc. Cost estimates could be
recei~ed from private lawn service companies with the annual
costs to be contributed by a firm and in return, a small sign
might be placed at the' site recognizing the donor. Mr. Legue
felt that this was an excellent program and that it was ~n
outstanding way of maintaining parks while reducing maintenance
costs to the citizens.
Other Reports - Members were informed that a recommendation
will be made to the City Commission to renovate the top floor of
the former Coconuts Lounge into a recreation center using monies
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budgeted in this fiscnl. yenr. Budgeted monies. approximately
$29.000, would be depleted with this renovation and that funds
for leadership and operation would have to be considered
sep~rately. Money will either have to be found or other pr6jects
or,programs cut. No monies are currently available for
renovation of the bottom floor and this will be addressed in the
,next fiscal yenr. AIsoJ a full operating budget will be
requested 8S Q aepnrntc decision package for the 1986/87 budget
year.
Mr. Fuchs asked Mr. Wilson if he had received any phone
calls from a resident around Hontclair about the development of
recreation facilities in that area. Mr. Wilson responded that
the only call he had from that neighborhood was an inquiry as to
whether or not a swimming pool or indoor recreation center could
be located north of Sunset Point Road. HoweverJ Mr. Wilson
_.suggested that Mr. Fuchs contact the resident in question and
'h8V~ him call the Parks and Recreation Depa~tment office.
Comments by Board Members - Board members had no additional
~omments,other than Ms. McMahon reminded everyone about the
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Chamber of Commerce 8 Tree Xhoughts Program. She stated that all
doriations ate still being received for the project which will
take pt'ace at Coachman Park. She said tha.t they c~rrently have
a~out balf.as many parti'cip~nts as are ni~d~d for'the project.
Th~~e,being ~o further business before the Board, Mr. Fuchs
.~ov~d' adjo~r~meni.
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