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AGENDA
PARKS AND ~CREJ\T!O~ BOARD
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APRIL 28, 1980
1.
Minutes of March 24 moeting.
2.
Welcome new Board member, Mr. Ed. Steiner of 1927 Sandra Drive.
Also, the City 9omrnission re-appointed Mr. Graydon Howe and Mr. Charlie Meoks
to new terms on the Board.
3.
Reports:
a. Presentation by Mr. John Bankston Mr. Bankston serves on the Clearwater
Sailing Center Committee which in turn represents several sailing groups in the community.
His presentation will involve a proposal for the placement of a sailing center on City
owned property on Sand Key.
b., Naming of Parks The city Commission directed the Parks and Recreation Board
to establish and submit for approval criteria for future use in naming of parks and
recreation facilities.
c. Moccasin Lake Park As directed by the City Commission, Parks and Recreation
staff is investigating various alternative entrances to Moccasin Lake Park. Board
members will be updated on this project.
d. Tree City USA The City of Clearwater will receive a formal presentation
acknowledging Clearwater as "Tree City USA.II This presentation will be held on Tuesday,
April 29, 11:00 a.m., Crest Lake Park, and all Board members are invited to attend.
e. Glen Oaks Golf Course Board members will be brought up to date relative to
. the physical condition of the golf course. Further, at the Board meeting of February,
'1980, members requested that the fees now being charged at Glen Oaks Golf Course be
discussed.
. f. Softball Complex - At their regular meeting of Thursday, May 1, 1980, the City
" commission will be considering a staff recommendation to purchase the Iley-Ruppel property
for construction of a softball complex.
g. countryside Tract 20 - Mr.
various home owner organizations in
20 acre park now known as Tract 20.
development.
Kader and Mr. Wilson met with several presidents of
Countryside to discuss pending development of a
$30,000 is presently budgeted towards initial
h. Montclair Pa:rk - Handball/Racketball courts are presently under construction
at this park. Playground equipment will be ordered shortly and Engineering is now
preparing plans for parking area and sidewalk.
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i. Resurfacing Tennis Courts
awarded with work to start immediately.
each at Valencia and Del Oro parks.
A contract to resurface 9 tennis courts has been
These include 5 courts at Morningside and 2
j. Crest Lake Park Fountain - The request for the placement of a fountain in the
lake at Crest Lake Park has been denied primarily due to its consumption of energy.
Future consideration will be given if an alternative ,source of energy is determined
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'4..', other Reports
5. Board member conunents
6. Adjourn
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CITY OF CLEARWATER
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MINUTES
APRIL 28, 1980
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The regular monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board was hold at the
Department offices, 10 South Missouri Avenue, on Monday, April 28, 1980, at 7:30 p.m.
Members present were Mr. Jack Gilmore, Mrs. Edwin Grenelle, chairman, Mr. Graydon Howe,
Mrs. Marguerite Krame, Mrs. Ginger MCQuigg, Mrs. Peg Rogers, Mr. Ed. Steiner, and Mr.
Scott Wyckoff (Student Board member). Also present were Mr. Art Kader, Mr. Ream Wilson,
and Mr. John Bankston. Mr. charlie Meeks was unable to attend due to another commitment
and Mrs. Diann Schultz was unable to attend due to illness.
Mrs. Krame made a motion to approve the Board minutes of March 24, 1980. Mrs.
Grenelle seconded the motion, which passed.
Mr. Howe introduced Mr. Ed. Steiner, who was recently appointed to the Board by the
City Commission. Mr. Howe also informed members that he and Mr. Meeks had been re-appointed
to second terms by the Commission.
REPORTS:
Presentation by Mr. John Bankston - Mr. Howe introduced Mr. John Bankston, who is
a local contractor and who serves on the Clearwater Sailing Center Committee, which in
turn represents several sailing groups in the community. Mr. Bankston gave a presentation
to the Board regarding his committee's desire to see a "Sailing Center" constructed on
the city-owned Sand Key property. Mr. Bankston explained that the emphasis of a sailing
center would be on small boats (prams) and on youth, with considerable emphasis on teach-
ing children to sail. He displayed two different drawings of the sailing center, one
with a sailing center building and a pram building which would cost approximately $600,000,
and one with the pram bUilding only which would cost about $300,000. Mr. Bankston explained
about the St. Petersburg Sailing Center which is owned by the City of St. Petersburg and
which was constructed with E.D.A. funds. He stated that the st. Petersburg Center is
extremely busy and that it has an annual operating budget of approximately $60,000. Of
, this budget, about $30,000 is raised from instructional programs at the center, with the
other $30,000 sponsored by the St. Petersburg Yacht Club. Mr. Bankston informed the
Board that the City-owned Sand Key property is already being used for various local
sailing groups and his committee would like to see the property dedicated or committed
to this purpose. The source of construction monies for a sailing center is undetermined
at this time but Mr. Bankston explained that he would appreciate the City's assistance
with the project. Board members discussed the project in detail and asked numerous
questions of Mr. Bankston. A formal recommendation of the Board was not solicited at
this time.
'Naming of Parks - Mr. Nilson advised members that the City conuu!ssion directed
the Parks and Recreation Board to establish and submit for approval, criteria for future
use in naming of Parks and Recreation facilities. Mrs. McQuigg suggested that members
each consider various criteria and submit their suggestions to the Parks and Recreation"
office before the next Board meeting. Parks and Recreation staff will type this list
pf criteria for distribution and discussion at the next meeting.
Moccasin Lake Park - Mr. Wilson explained that staff is still investigating and
gathering information regarding alternate entrance roads to Moccasin Lake Park. Mr. Howe
suggested that maps and cost estimates for these alternatives be brought before the Parks
and Recreation Board at their next meeting for futher consideration.
Tree City, U.S.A. - Mr. Wilson invited all Board members to attend a presentation
to be held at Crest Lake Park on Tuesday, April 29, at 11:00 a.m. The City of Clearwater
will receive a formal presentation acknowledging the City as "Tree City, U.S.A."
Several Board members indicated that they would attend.
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Glen Oaks Golf Course - Mr. wilson informed members that he had mot with mcmboro
of the Glen Oaks Golf clubs to discuss maintenance conditions of the course. GroenR
No.2, 3, 5, 6, & 7 have been closed to temporarily eliminate the heavy player traffic
and to give the grass an opportunity to run. Temporary greens have been established
and could be in service for approximately 8 weeks. Mr. Wilson explained that the
greens at the course have been in very poor condition during the wi.nter season, but
that play has been very heavy. He stated that the above mentioned greens have been
closed for approximately 3 1/2 weeks and indications are that the grass is running due
,to no traffic.
As requested by members at a previ~us Board meeting, Mr. Wilson explained the fee
structure and budget and revenues for the course. He stated that the course several years
ago was self-sustaining in that revenues equaled or exceeded expenditures. However,
with the continued escalation of costs for operation and no increases being approved for
fees, annual expenditures now exceed revenues. The City Commission did not approve the
recommended fee increases at the beginning of this fiscal year and deter.mined at that
time that the cost of operation would be supplemented by funds from general revenue.
With a revised mid-year operating budget of approximately $190,000, and estimated
revenues of $135,000, the estimated supplement from general revenues could approximate
$55,000. Mr. Wilson explained that two sources of additional revenue could be considered.
First, non-resident cards ($25.00) have never been required of non-residents participating
at Glen oaks, the reason being that in previous years the course was almost entirely
funded by user fees rather than City general revenue. However, since general revenue
is now required, consideration might be given to non-resident cards, especially for
those non-residents desiring the privilege to purchase ten-play cards or annual member-
Ships. Mr. Wilson explained that a blanket requirement for a non-resident card could
have adverse effects on revenues if it was required of all non-residents who pay greens
fees at the.course. However, it might be advisable to require the card for those desiring
memberships since memberships usually result in a very low cost play. Secondly, addition-
al revenue could be generated if fees were increased as recommended at the beginning of
this fiscal year. Current fees have not been increased since the City purchased the course
and they are currently lower than other facilities of comparable size.
Board members discussed the finances at Glen Oaks in detail and felt that since it
is an enterprise account, it is expected to be self-sustaining. Mrs. Krame made a motion
to recommend that non-resident cards be required of all non-residents who desire ten-
play cards or annual memberships, and that recommended fee increases as submitted at the
beginning of this fiscal year be re-submitted to the City Commission for consideration.
Mrs. Grenelle seconded the motion, which passed. Mr. Howe suggested that consideration
might be given to bringing in a consultant regarding the physical condition of the course
if needed, closing the course one day a week for maintenance, which is done at many other
local courses, or limiting play to a certain number of players. Even though the course
has been in poor physical condition, Mr. Kader explained that large and possibly record
crowds have played the facility during the heavy winter months of January, February, and
March. Mr. Wilson explained that the heavy play is excellent but heavy traffic with
little time for maintenance is a large contributor to the sparse grass on the small greens.
Softball Complex - Members were advised that the city Commission at its regular
meeting of Thursday, May 1, 1980, will consider a staff recommendation to purchase the
Iley-Ruppel property for the construction of a 4-fie1d softball complex and a 3-field
soccer complex. At previous Board meetings,rnemhers recommended that this purchase be
approved. Mr. Howe explained that residents living immediately North of the proposed
site might have concerns and objections about the proposed development. He suggested
that.a meeting with the residents to explain how their area would be buffered and how
the 'complex might be, constructed would be helpful. Mr. Wilson agreed with Mr. Howe and
stated that he would arrange a meeting in the evont the Commission decides to purchase
the property.
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Countryside Tract 20 - Members were advised that Mr. Kader and Mr. Wilson met with
several presidents of various homo owner organizations in Countryside to discuss ponding
development of Tract 20, which is a 20 acre park site. $30,000 is presently budgeted
for initial development, which will include grading, grassing, and irrigation of a~
combination playfie1d for softball and soccer, tho installation of playground apparatus
for small children, and initial landscape efforts. Mr. wilson stated that the Department
intends to send letters to the various homo owner organizations listing various develop-
ments that could be placed in the park over tho nuxt few years, and to solicit priorities
and comments regarding these developments.
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Montclair Park - Handba1l/racketba11 courts arc presently under construction, play-
ground equipment will be ordered shortly, and engineering plans for parking and sidewalks
are being finalized.
Resurfacing Tennis Courts -
the process of being resurfaced.
Valencia and DelOra Parks.
Mr. Wilson explained that 9 tennis courts are now in
These include 5 courts at Morningside and 2 each at
C~est Lake Park Fountain Members were advised that the City Commission denied a
request for the placement of a fountain at Crest Lake Park. The reason for denial was
primarily due to the energy required for operation of the fountain.
Other Reports - Mr. Wilson eJ{plained that the Board meeting for the month of May
would fall on Memorial Day, which is a City holiday. Mrs. Rogers made a motion that the
regular Board meeting for May be postponed until Monday, June 2. Mr. Steiner seconded
the motion, which passed.
Comments by Board Members
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Mr. Steiner - No comment.
Mrs. McQuigg
Expressed opposition to fencing off the Sand Key property for a sailing
center as proposed by Mr. Bankston. Mrs. McQuigg also stated that
programs such as Camp '0 States should be increased, especia11y'since
an increased number of mothers are required to go to work due to
inflationary times.
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Mrs. Grenel1e -Welcomed Hr. Steiner to the Board and supported comments made by Mrs.
McQuigg. She also suggested that imput be solicited from former Board
members regarding Parks and Recreation items.
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Mrs. Krame' --Inquired about the competitive swim program and was informed that it
is now beginning.
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Mr. Gilmore --Welcomed Mr. steiner to the Board and congratulated Mr. Howe on his
election as Board Chairman. He also expressed his pleasure in the City
Commission's consideration of land for a softball complex.
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Mr. Wyckoff --No comment.
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Mr. Howe --Requested that Mr. Wilson present a program of slides giving an overview
of Parks and Recreation actitivies to the Board at their next meeting on
June 2.
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. There being no further business before the Board, the meeting was adjourned at
9:50 p.m.
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