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Proceedings of the Pension Advisory Committee Meeting of April 4, 1990.
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Present:
lohn Nicholson, Chairman
Tom Pudelsld. Member
Glenn Perry. Member
H. Michael Laursen. Personnel Director
Deborah Lally, Personnel Department
. Nancy Degner, City Nurse
Cindy Climan. Personnel Records Specialist
Miles Lance, Assistant City Attorney
Leo Schrader. Risk Manager
Edward Voiland, former Building & Maintenance Superintendent
Charles Castagna, Attorney for Mr. VoiJand
Dave Hawkins, District Chief
Douglas Carey. former Police Officer
Deborah Patterson, Meter Reader
William Patterson. Water Division
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The meeting' was called to order at 9:34 A.M.
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Tom Pudelski moved to approve the minutes of the meeting of March 7. 1990. The motion was
duly seconded by Glenn Perry and carried unanimously.
Douglas ,Carey, a former Police Officer, addressed the Committee. He had written a letter to the
Committee asking for, clarification as to whether he could work as a security guard at Morton
Plant Hospiuil and not put his job-connected disability pension in jeopardy.
Mr. Nicholson advised Mr. Carey it was his opinion that this job involved work which was
similar. to 'what be did as a Police Officer and, therefore, he could not work as a guard.
Mr. Laursen stated the Trustees considered this question at their last meeting as it related to
William Harvey, a former Firefighter. who wanted to work as a dispatcher for Medic One. At
. that meeting, the Trustees placed this before the Pension Advisory Committee for it to develop a
proposal for the Trustees to consider. Mr. Harvey was advised he could not work as a dispatcher
because he would use knowledge he obtained as a paramedic and he would be perfonning a job
similar to what he was doing for the City.
A lengtby discussion ensued concerning the type of employment disability pensioners may
pursue. Mr.Pudelski and Mr. Perry disagreed with Mr. Nicholson's opinion that someone could
not use' knowledge gained while employed with the City in other employment (Le. an
electrician could work in an electrical supply store and not jeopardize his pension).
At the conclusion of the discussion. it was decided that each Committee member would submit a
draft proposal a1\d the Committee would discuss. it at a future meeting.
Tom Pudelski moved that this matter be tabled until all members could write their ideas and
discuss them at another meeting. The motion was duly seconded by Glenn Perry.
Mr. Nicholson suggested they discuss this at the first meeting in May and all members agreed.
Mr. Carey asked if he could continue to work at Morton Plant until a decision was made and was
told, he could do so.
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The motion was carried unanimously.
The Committee considered the request of Edward Voiland, former Building & Maintenance
Superintendent, for a job-connected disabiUty pension which was remanded to the Commiltce
hy the Trustees. This was remanded for further consideration but a non-job-eonnected
disability pension was approved in the meantime. It was indicated a hcaring may need to be
held in this matter.
Charles Castagna, attorney for Mr. Voiland, addressed the Committee on his behalf.
Mr. Castagna stated letters were submitted from Dr. Kedan and Dr. Smitherman which stated
Mr. Voiland's medical problems were job-related. The Committee sent Mr. Voiland for an IME
which was performed by Dr. Williamson; howevcr, Dr. WiJ1iamson's report was inconclusive
since the doctor was not allowed to perform a stress test. Mr. Castagna suggested the Committee
allow the IME to be completed; and, if Dr. Williamson is in agreement with the other doctors, no
hearing will need to be held.
Mr. Nicholson asked about the workers' compensation claims that should have been filed in
this case if it was job-connected. Mr. Castagna was not able to address this question.
Mr. Laursen stated. there have been cases where employees were granted job-connected
disability pensions without having filcd workers' compensation claims.
Mr. Perry stated he did not feel the letters from Mr. Voiland's doctors indicated that the
condition is job-related. Mr. Nicholson stated the Committee is not questioning whether
Mr. Voiland has a disability; therefore, he docs not feel a stress test is necessary because it will
not help the doctor determine whether the disability is job-connected.
Mr. Voiland advised the Committee a sonogram was performed by Dr. Kedan which may be
helpful to Dr. Williamson in reaching a conclusion.
A discussion ensued concerning the need for a hearing. At the conclusion it was determined
that Mr. Lance would depose Mr. Voiland in order to deteniline exactly what his claims are
going to be. In addition, all Mr. Voiland's medical records will be submitted to the Committee
for its review. This may eliminate the need for live testimony from the doctors. After the
records are received and the deposition is taken, a hearing date can be schedulcd. This hearing
will not be held during a regular meeting.
Mr. Nicholson will contact Dr. Williamson and ask him to make a determination based on the
information he already has. He will also ask the doctor if he would review the sonogram that
was perfonned by Dr. Kcdan. Mr. Nicholson will advise Mr. Castagna if Dr. Williamson will look
at the sonogram.
Deborah Patterson, Meter Reader I, Utilities Finance Division, addressed the
Committee regarding her request for a job-connected disability pension. She presented the
Committee with a letter from Dr. Slomka dated 1/15/90. She also had a letter from
Dr. Abrahamsen which indicated she had reached MMI on 8/19/87. Ms. Patterson recently had
an MRI.
Mr. Nicholson advised Ms. Patterson to have Dr. Slomka write another letter based on the
findings of the MRI and she needs another letter from a doctor who specializes in the field of
her injury. Ms. Patterson asked if she could get a leller from a doctor that the City sent her to
and she was advised she could. Mr. Nicholson also advised her the Committee takes two
meetings to make a determination and this meeting will not be considered as one of the two.
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Regarding the guidelines and procedures. Mr. Laursen advised the Committee memher" he
would be sending them copies of his draft proposal.
Michael Dandaneau, Pollee Communications Operator, Pollee Deportment. wall Hent
for an 1MB but the report had not been rccc\ved.
The Committee received copies of the Pension Entitlement Forms for the disnbUhy pc:nlllnncrJI.
There are some problems with the responses. The members will review theRe Dnd dlsCUflll them
at their next meeting.
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Jacqueline Sulek, former Assistant Purchasing Manager, Purchasing Division,
recently spoke to Miles Lancc, Assistant City Attorney. regarding her request for a
non~job-connected disability pension. In response to a question raised by the Committee at an
earlier time. Mr. Lance had written a memo indicating Ms. Sulek could not change her vested
pensio'n to a non-job~connected disability pension which was based on the assumption thai she
became incapacitated after she left employment. Ms. Sulek will be coming to thlll arca Bnd will
contact Mr. Lance when she arrives. She will need to prove she wns disabled before she left
the City in order to be eligible for a disability pension.
The Committee considered the request of Wayman Pearson, Sanitation ,Superintendent,
Sanitation Division. to vest his pcnsion. Tom Pudelski moved that Mr. Pearson's request be
granted. The motion was duly seconded by Glenn Perry and carried unanimously.
With respect to the request of John Greiner, Survey Party Chief, PubH.: Works
Department. for a job-connected disability pension. a letter from his doctor indicated he
reached MMI on 2122/90 but did not give a disability rating.
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Mr. Nicholson stated Mr. Greiner should be advised he must exhaust his workers' compensation
hcnefits before he receives a pension. Mr. Lance stated there is nothing in the ordinance that
says an employee must apply for workers' compensatioil benefits and these CDses should be
handled on an individual basis.
Mr. Greiner's letters from his doctors arc not specific enough. He needs to be notified that the
Committee needs new letters.
Mr. Nicholson asked Mr. Laursen about the memorandum he wrote concerning the phone call
he received from a citizen about a fonncr employee on disability who docs not appear to be
disabled. The employee was John Ferzola. a former Firefighter. Mr. Nicholson stated he would
" like to send Mr. Ferzola a letter or have him appear at a meeting. Mr. Lnnce suggested they
., defer action on this until the next meeting.
Tom Pudelski moved that the Committee defer action on this matter until the next meeting. The
motion was duly seconded by Glenn Perry and carried ununimously. This will be put on the
agenda for the April 18th meeting.
No response had been received from Mr. Lockwood in response to Mr. Laursen's memorandum
to him about his pension eligibility dale.
The meeting recessed at 11:22 A.M. It reconvened at 11:27 A.M.
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Tom, Pudeiskl ren~ the name(s) of the following cmployce(s) nnd moved that they be accepted
into membership In the Pension Plnn:
Date of
Employment
PensIon
Eli,. DBt~
-Richard Cadwell, Microcomputer Rep. Tech.
William Buzzell" Sanitation Worker
Anthony McCluney, Sanitation Worker
Wilson Brooks, Recreation Leader
Adm. Ser./DIS
Pub. Wks./San.
Pub. Wks./San.
Parks & Ree.
3.12-90
3-26-90
3.26-90
4~2.90
3.12.90
3-26.90
3.26-90
4.2-90
The motion was duly seconded by Glenn Perry and carried unanimously.
Tom Pudelski moved that the meeting be adjourned. The motion was duly seconded by
Glenn. .~erry, and carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 11 as A.M.
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