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08/21/1985 , ~:tl:~:'l' ~ >. '." "J,~ . .", , . " " ~f~~':" ,I, ,~:,1 q, . :}": .. , ''I;', , .'q,'T\ ' };"'Q S\', , /.'rjl il' :',: . [./:: , ;\1'1':';:: ' "'p \. . ~{" ':, ", ,r ..~' 'I. ' ,,'/,'<< . '5:\t:', ' ~(l~." ' ~{"::;;':,' , K::..,,',>., !J\,:,/:,:' ' 1~~:' ; " ',' 1!~: :',:. ,.' ",'. , r-,::.;' , , , t~:-. L .,~).,,:' , ~~::';,I.. it;' ~r:f ,,,'- p[d,I'..';::: , 'J1,.lrY'(',,: ... '(irJ1".. ' '~{:~~i'~i'~: .:, ~ ' If""" is':';"~, r,I",~ l~.:..,,-'~> (l;'\,+" " ; ~'<<'::..i .\ ."~ ,,,, " .', !;~<<:<' ,,:' ~!ft\;'::;;:; , I 'l\~ ,...,', , " ~"...", f~ "Phi;,. ~;~,.(,. " ~;~~~;#::~:,~ l~lt'.,..,,~,\ " ' r.H,)r I"',~ \\\iV~...:\,-, " ;~, fr/_,,; ,~\ ~ ~!~'i;I:j"."'" . II!~:,lj ~~~{~'" . ~ ': ',~:'.' ,)'~r,,;, "'" J~f:~;r. ~~1'< ' ~[:f.;,~':: i:: .~' 1,:.',' :0' <>, .yl~P : ~F' . %);',:.. ,.' ~i,rl{:r,:<:' ' {{ ~",., , ~~1~~::'-t?~:::: ' 1,1" '.. ....t. . ~ ~i{(;':\i":;: , .~;~ti};,~d': Proceedings of Pension Advisory Committee Meeting August 21J 1985 Present: Charles Dunn John Nicholson David Krieger " J Carole Greiner, Finance Department Jeffrey E. Harper, Personnel Department Cindy eliman, II " Nancy Degner, City ~urse Michael Glugla, Police Department Richard Griesinger, Attorney for Michael Goodell ,~ .....-,/ A.cting, ChaiYlnan John N:l,cholson called meeting to order. Seniority Department/Division Date Utilities/Sanitation 4- 8-85 Public Works/W.P.C. 6-17-85 Police' 8-19-85 Police 8-12-85 Police 8-12-85 Police 8-19-85 Marine 4- 2-83 Police, 8-12-85 Police 8-12-85 Police 8-12-85 Police 8-12-85 Police 8-12-85 Public Works/Public Service8_l9_85 Planning & Urban Develop. 8-19-85 Police 8-12-85 Police 8-12-85 Police 8-12-85 II Police 8-19-85 Utilities 6- 4-85 Parks & Recreation, 4- 7-83 Police/Support Services 8-19-85 Date Pension Effective 4- 8-85 6-17-85 8-19-85 8-12-85 8-12-85 8-19-85 7- 1-85 8-12-85 8-12-85 8-12-85 8-12-85 8-12-85 '8-19-85 8-19-85 8-12-85 8-12-85 8-12-85 8-19-85 7-19-85 8- 5-85 8-19-85 Name & Classification Dale Carmichael, Sanitation Worker Rick Mishler, WWTPOperator Trainee 'Michael Glugla, Police Officer Anthony Holloway, Police Recruit John D. Lewis, " " Gregory J. Bickel, Police Officer Christopher O'Gara, Rec. Pier Optr. I Edna Lewis, Police Recruit Joseph Zagone, Police Officer Benjamin McBride, Police Officer Theresa Cook, Police Officer Joseph Rinaldi, Police Recruit Konrad McCree, Maint. Worker 1 Stephen Doherty, Planning Technician William Farias, Police Officer Melissa Wilson, II " John Diebel, " " Loretta CunninghamJ Police Corom. Op. Craig Beebe, Cust. Servo Rep. Kevin Flanaga~, Recreation Leader Carla Collins, I.D. Tech. Jqnn ~,ich.Qls.on, Ac.ting Chait1Pan mov.ed, that th.e new employees listed above be approved tQ~ pen&jo~~ SecQ~~e~ by David Krieger and motion passed. John Nicholson moved' that Charles Dunn be elected Chairman of the Pension Advisory Committee. Seconded by David Krieger and motion carried. C~a~man Dunn a~ked' Richard Griesinger if he had something to say. ~r. Griesinger stated he was at the meeting to present his case regarding Mike Goodell. He stated the ductors' 'letters speak for themselves and he saw nothing further to do. lie' presented' a new letter from Dr. J'. J'. Dfaz stating Mr. Goodell is an incomplete ',quadraplegic~ This,is a permanent injury and' he is and will be unable to perform his duties as a firefighter. The Committee has already received three letters fuom Dr~ Paaach. ':".l ,,\ I. ",~~ . . i ;:~\ I lit , (: " ,';'" ',~,,':'::",:, ,:',:',c;' \ ."j ,ii':(:::::<';.' 'ii";;::' ,,,.' .:,;";:i\y:,,,,\!':?t':r:',:::: ,. ',1" ::,,",'. ',\; i t,\,.r1 ,~!~ ~... . ,I " ',e' ...... '~':':.'::-::"::~':i;<~';'~::':;';>~; " ,.'.., :,'\',," "n) \:,',~I~:, ;~<":'_..,:,:,;'"".":e,:\",,,,~, '/::<'C':','::'::':,", ",;:i' ,';,':',," '",", ,,: t:",; ",': 'I,,:;:, ,~,',/,"'" ,>, '/<"i I"~:' ::";>"::"!"::,:,\,;.t~" ";:: :!:,',',','.,',.,',.,:,;,',j,.,~,.,:,:::.,'/:,:,:,::,t,::,~,:.',',',i,..,);"..;,_ }'~" " ,', "1",':' ;",\::'''.>,>:;:':,:c"~r,::,'' ';"1, ,I 11 ",:,',',.,'::;,':,.,',..~,.,':',~.[." ,"ll ./...~i.;'l.,. ~,"~' 'J I,.,', ", ,'l'~' l ,'. .,',1.; ", ,'..,~!..' '.,:',..,.' ':1.,1<'. 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I~~,; " .fJ4:cr.'~' . ~(,;,::' :j~i..,~ , ' .lily,:'..' ~~.~~~~:~'::., .:.~.. ~~::'j :;:~>':", jii;." <,.' , H'tl,'" . '.',' .. i, ;://-\"" '. .~..,. ('''' ' f~:,~ ~,,' : .' \' ~{\,,";:~ ' : ~~('\, (~.- :.. . ',' ,,'. lc~l..<:~ "T ~'l~...., (8),., j'>U;'" ',~", " ~~(~ 1.,_ t 'J~:.:~~,\'. l 1"""''-;'' ..' , ~i~~ ~~~':,~ ' ". , ~w?~~'~iy.'~r~~ .. ({t,""i; ~.1l')\ ~I\~' ,~t;1-:;; , ~,I" ' ..", l~~fl' , 1Y" " li1; ; '~if\'". ~ I" .: ;$~::'O' ~.~.. "if:ift'. 1:0;,;':. ~\"':"i" ' ~{fi1\::'(('~ ' '~r., ,,'.... ' : .:~~ti'\ . jl~'i-~j~;.;j\it~ ;:~> " .\....~"i..~ ..+~" ~ .' Pension Advisory Committee August 21. 1985 John Nicholson stated that in his opinion the letter from Dr. Diaz is acceptable. and the letter from Dr.Passch is not acceptable because it doesntt state his injury. The letter from Dr. Paaach does not state permanence and the letter dated July 2nd doesn't state the permanence. Mr. Griesinger stated that in his opinion if one doctor's letter states he is a qundraplegic. that is enough. He stated Dr. Pasach is on stand-by right now and he would like this Board right now to call him on a conference call. The Committee agreed they wanted a letter from Dr. Paanch stating he is peTmancntly disabled. Attorney Griesinger will get the letter requested by the Board from Dr. Pasach. Committee discussed different seminars that are being held and possibly they might want to attend the seminar bein~ held in Tampa.on the 18th and 19th of September. The ,Seminar is the 17th Annual Municipal Pension Fund Administrators' Conference at the Hyatt ,Regency. Chairman Dunn suggested Dave Krieger get in touch with Mr. Weimer to see if he could send the committee members and Carole Greiner to the seminar.in Tampa. Chairman Dunn advised committee members that he had seen Mr. Weimer in the hall and had mentioned the committee to change the pension law. Mr. Weimer stated the rumor was that PAC no longer wanted a committee and Chairman Dunn advised him this was not true. that they do want the committee. Committee to check with Mr. t~eimer and Mr. Shoemaker to find out the status of the committee. John Nicholson suggested that the three union representatives be added to the committee. Secretary Laursen to write letter to City Manager stating the Committee and employees do want the pension re-write committee and would also like the ~lree union represent~tives added to the committee. Next meeting on September 4th. Meeting adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Jeffrey E., Harper Asst. Personnel Director H.' M. Laursen,' Secretary for & per~rector , ,