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RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
June 13, 1985
Members Prescnt
Elizabeth S. "neseker, Asst. City Manager - Chairman
Nick Lewis. Fire Marshal
Robert Maran, representing the Public Works Department
Edward Bethel, Building Director
Don Meerians, Asst. Director, Traffic Engineering Dept.
Claude Howell. representing the Uti! ities Department
Paula Harvey, Planning Dept. Director
Ream Wilson, Director, Parks and Recreation Dept.
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Also Present
Gus Yoanuon, representing Vision Cable (Item No.1)
Mr. Franajenk, rep. Greenwood Ind. Park (Item No.1)
Nick Renjacob, Architect (Item No.1)
Emanuel Bout~oukas, rep. Greenwood Ind. Park (Item No.1)
Patrick Delio, . DeYoung and Associates (Item No.2)
Norm Drunet. Precision Mfg. and Sales Co. (Item No.2)
non Rowand, Rowand, Inc. (Item No.2)
John A. Lloyd, Countryside Christian Center (Item No.3)
Patrick Maguire, Countryside Christian Center (Item No.3)
Patrick Rinard, ,Countryside Christian Center (Item No.3)
Tenney C. OI~en,Countryside Christian Center (Item No.3)
Dick Raivio, (Item No.4)
R. Gooch, rep. Bypass Park (Item No.4)
David Ramsey, DFR Engr., rep. Northside Square (Item No.5)
Chris Tallman, rep. U.S. Homes, (Item No.6)
Michael Irwin, rep. Post, Ruckley, Schuh and Jernigan (Item No.6)
James Shonkwiler, Post, Buckley, Schuh and Jernigan (Item No.6)
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The meeting was called to order by Elizabeth S. Haeseker, Chairman, at 9:00 a.m.,
in the Operations Center Conferenc~ Room.
Minutes of the meeting of May 23, 1985, were approved as submitted.
1. Greenwood Industrial Park - located at Southwest corner of
North Greenwood and Eldridge Street.
'FINAL SITE PLAN
APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS
Nick Lewis - Stated an additional hydrant will be needed' - probably on the
Eldridge.Street side.
:Robert Maran - See written comments. (Attachment No.1) Discussion ensued
regarding the code requirements for sidewalk to be 1 ft. from the property line.
Ed Bethel'- See writtcn comments. (Attachment No.2)
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Don Maar ians - Commented tha t (1) n 11 the sid cwalks ahou Id be ramped where
they run into the driveways and at the street ends and should not be step-downs)
(2) dumpster locations need improvement) and (3) all the accesses should have
some type of separation from the parking to theaecc8s with n little island
on all entries (these should go back 16 - 17').
Claude Howell - Commented that the sanitation truck would not be able to get
to the dumpster locations; another 5' depth is necessarYJ'which would be
minimal. Discussion ensued regarding the size of the dumpster location.
Paula Harvey - No comments.
Ream Wilson - See written comments. (Attachment No.3).
Mrs. Haeeeker called for a motion for discussion.
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Paula Harvey moved to recommend approval of the final site plan for Greenwood
Industrial Park based upon a finding of this Committee that the plan conforms
with the design guidelines for site plan review subject to the following:
1. the addition of one (1) fire hydrant as required by the Fire Marshal;
2. that final retention design be approved by the Public Works Dept.j
3. the sidewalks must be one foot off the property line, unless there are
reasons presented to Staff that warrant adjustment to the sidewalk
relocationj
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4. sidewalks must be ramped at the driveways;
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5. final dumpster locations must be approved by the Sanitation Dept.;
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6. parking spaces should be separated from the drivewayj
7. open space impact fees must be paid prior to approval and certification
of the final site plan; and
, 8. the building permit be issued within six months from the date of approval
of the final site plan and the project completed within two years from
the date of the issuance of the initial building permit.
The motion was seconded by Robert Maran. There was no discussion on the motion
by the Committee, and the motion carried unanimously.
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2. Precision Manufacturing and Sales Co., Inc. - located on Range Road
approximately 675 feet West of Belcher Rd. (Brunet)
FINAL SITE PLAN
APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS
Nick Lewis - Commented on the hydrant coverage. To maintain the proper coverage
it would take an additional hydrant t striving for 300 ft. from the fire hydrant
to the farthest part of the structure. Mr. Lewis questioned the access to the
hydrant on the west side. Discussion ensued regarding access to the fire hydrant
on the west side which is in an easement. Mr. Lewis stated he felt that even
though the City did have access to that hydrant there would still be a requirement
for another on the west side of the structure, and will stipulate in the motion
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that there will be the coverage required by the Fire Dept. Mrs. lIaeseker commented
that the developer should provide the City with an agreement with the property
owner to the west to guarantee the City access to the existing fire hydrant 'on
the west side of the building.
Robert Maran - Stated that the existing 10 ft. drainage and utility easement on
both sides of the property be shown on the site plan.
Ed Bethel - See written comments. (Attachment No.4)
Don Meerians - Commented that one parking space at the northeast corner of the
building looks like it extends out into the 24 ft. aisle. This could simply be
eliminated and continue the little island along to the next parking space and
there should be no problem.
Claude Howell - Connnented that (1) a 3/4" water meter is shown. The City hOB ',only
5/8" or 1", not 3/4". (2) A dumpster location will have to be provided on this
site. Discussion ensued regarding the size of the meter and the cost.
Paula Harvey - Commented (1) the need to identify specifically two loading spaces
on this site for this building, and (2) the need to identify specicslly on the
plan what the parking requirement is in the code to meet the minimum requirements
for this use.
Ream Wilson - See written comments (Attachment No.5). The developer questioned
if the open space fee hadn't been paid at the time of annexation several years
ago, and requested that it be waived on this basis. Mr. Wilson stated that the
ordinance went into effect in July, 1983t and would look into whether the fee had
been paid at the time of annexation ~
Mrs. Haesel'er asked if there was any discussion from the Committee.
Robert Maran questioned the need for a 10 ft. drainage and utility easement along
the back'of the property. Discussion ensued regarding this easement.
Mrs. Haeseker asked for a motion to be made.
Paula Harvey moved to reconnnend approval of the final site plan for Precision
Manufacturing and Sales Co., Inc. based upon a finding of this Committee that
the plan'conforms with the design guidelines for site plan review subject to the
following:
1. two (2) loading spaces be designated on the site plan;
2~. that parking calculations be shown to reflect the requirements
for parking;
3. that an agreement be provided with the property owner to the west
to guarantee his access to the City of the existing fire hydrant
on the west side of the building;
4. that the existing 10 ft. drainage and utility easement on the east
and west side of the property be shown on the site plan;
S. that parking spaces be extended to the 24 ft. wide aisle be remedied;
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6. that water meter size be adjusted as required by the Utilities Dept.;
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7. n dumpster be provided on the site and npproved by the Snnitation Dept.;
8. that additional open space fees be paid prior to certification of
the final site plan unless it is determined that the fee has already
been paid; dnd
9. the building permit be issued within siK months from the date of
approval and the project completed within two ycars.
The motion was seconded by Robert Maran. There was no discussion on the motion,
and the motion carried unanimously.
3. Countryside Christian Center - located on West side of McMullen Booth Road
approximately 1100 feet south of S.R. 588. COURTESY REVIEW ONLY
PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN - APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS
Nick Lewis - Stated that a fire hydrant would be required to be located
on the site.
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Robert Maran - See written comments (Attachment No.6). Discussion ensued
regarding the 10' drainage and utility easement requested for the north side
of the property, with the developer asking that this be required at a later
date as it is possible there would be further expansion in the future.
Mr. Maran commented that possibly it could be located at the north end of
the church and that he would check into ft.
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Ed Bethel - commented that he would like to caution them about the railroad tie
wall, as these walls can be troublesome if not properly designed and supervised.
The developer stated that.it may not be necessary to build the retaining wall if
the property owner allows them to grade the property.
Don Meerians - stated the need to work out what the traffic flow would be. He
alsu questioned the need for an acceleration lane and felt that,unless it was
required by the County, it would not be necessary.
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Claude Howell - Stated (1) the dumpster at the location of the island would not
be accessible, 'and the enclosure for the other dumpster shown would have to
have a minimum 12' opening, ,(2) the 2" water meter shown on the plan should be
discussed with the Utilities Dept., and (3) the fire hydrant shown on the plan
requires over a 50' run to get it back to the building and that will require a
Health Dept. permit--also the domestic water lines will require a Health Dept.
permit if it is kept a 2" water meter. The developer questioned the difference
in the size of the water meters, and Mr. Howell stated he would discuss it with
them further if they would call his office.
Paula Harvey - Commented on' 'the request of the Public Works Dept. for the easement
on the north side. The first time this was brought up was at the Planning and
20ning'Board meeting during discussion of the annexation. The annexation is .
actually less property than what is shown on this site plan. What is shown on the
site plan is the full ten acres, which includes the five acres that is proposed to
be. bought at a later date. To that extent, the comment made by Bob Maran for the
10' easement on the north side is valid for this site plan. There is a need for
the site plan to show the property line and what is under negotiation to be purchased
at a later date--that distinction needs to be shown on the site plan. There is a
need for the easement on the north side. Discussion ensued regarding the easement.
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Ream ~1ilson - See written comments (Attachment No. 7). He further stated
that the wording could be changed in the memo (Attach. 7) that the fee would
be due upon annexation.
Mrs. Hacscker... colled for discussion from the Committee nnd the developer.
The developer stated they would prefer lond dedicati~n to paying a fee, oe they
have a lot of open spocc. Hr. Wilson explained that 4% of the total acreage of
5 acres would be too smoll to do anything with, nnd the cash conveyed to the City
in lieu of dedication is pooled with other cash sccured from within a mile of that
area to purchase a piece of open spnce property in the area. The only way the City
could accept a piece of property that small would be if it was contiguous to a
park site that would expand an existing pork site.
Hrs, Haeseker called for a mo~ion.
MOTION:
Paula Harvey moved to recommend approval of the final site plan for Countryside
Christian Center subject to the following:
1. that a fire hydrant be located on the site, and subject to the
approval of the Fire Marshal;
2. .3 10 foot drainage and utility easement be shown along the north,
south, and west side of the property;
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3. that the internal traffic flow be redesigned to accommodate dumpster
'pick up, including the modification and relocation of the islands
in the driveway;
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'4. water meter size be readjusted as recommended by the Utilities Dept.;
5. that the site plan reflect the current ownership of the property
shown on t~e site plan; and
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6. that open space fees be paid prior to the finalization of the annexation.
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The motion was seconded by Robert Maran. There was no discussion by the Committee
on the motion, and the motion carried u~animously.
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4. Bypass Park - located at Northwest corner of Druid and Bypass Roads
(Gooch and Gooch, a partnership)
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CONTINUED TO JULY 11th
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Mrs'. Haeseker stated that the Committee had several concerns regard ing this
subdivision plat for Bypass Park and asked Paula' Harvey of the Planning Dept. to
t~ad the discussion.
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f!.ula Harvey questioned what the Committee is reviewing on this particular site,
as it would appear that the developer is asking to sub-divide this property which
is now under one ownership, and that the developer is planning to sell off parcels.
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The developer stated that was incorrect. He stated that' basically there are two
owners of this total piece of property. One owner is Gooch and Gooch, a partnershipJ
that owns Parcell and 2J the one with the buildings on it; and another owner,
not related but with the same name, owns the remainder.
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Paula Harvey questioned the purposo of having seven lots. The developer statod
that Mr. Gooch was going to 8ell Parcel 2 and going to add on to the building.
lie could not get a building permit unless it was platted, and this WllS the purpose
of going through the cxpensc and the time of Bypass Park. Paula Harvey questioned
if the part that is now developed is under one owner and pllrt of Lot 2 is included
in that ownership (50'), and the rest is under another ownership. The developer
stated that is apparently why they have to go through the platting of the entire
parcel. Mra. Harvey questioned how long the d ivis ion of ownership had existed
and if it was recent. The developer stated the 50' piece of property was just
recently acquired, but prior to that the other two parcels had been owned I - 5 years.
The developer stated they had applied for a variance from the Board of Adjustment
and Appeals for a zero setback for the north boundary, and Mrs. Ha~vey advised
the developer that until the variance is heard by the Board of Adjustment and
Appeals, the Committee cannot review the plat. Mrs. Haeseker stated that there is
only one Commission meeting in July and, if the Board of Adjuatment and Appeal
should approve the variance, there would be plenty of time for the Committee to
review it before the Commission meeting.
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MOTION:
Paula Harvey moved to continue this item to the Resource Development Meeting
of July 11, 1965.
The motion was seconded by Robert Maran, and carried unanimously.
5. Northside Square (Tract 2 Countryside) - located on Southeast corner of
Northside Drive and U.S. 19 (AM Tectonics) (Plan Change)
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CONTINUED TO JULY 11th
Nick Lewis - Stated that the site plan does not address the Fire Department
~equirements for the water distribution system or hydrant location.
Claude Howell - Agreed with Mr. Lewis' statement that the plan does not
conform to the requirements for the water distribution system required for
water hydrants and the restaurants. A previous plan that had been submitted
showed a totally different water plan. Mr. Howell also stated that final dumpster
locations need to be shown on this plan. He suggested that Mr. Ramsey come to
his office and he would help Mr. Ramsey work something out that would be agreeable
to the Fire Department and Utilities Dept.
Robert Maran - Stated they had previously commented on this site, under a
different plan prepared by Post, Buckley, Shuh and Jernigan.
Mr. Maran further stated (1) the need for the standard easements for all the
storm lines, and a 40 ft. drainage and utility easement along U.S. 19 (there was
a right-of-way easement there, and now a drainage and utility easement is being
requested);(Z) the need to obtain an easement from Woodland Villas to tap in to
their private system in two locations; and, (3) questioned che use of pervious
concrete. Mr. Maran stated that Mr. Ramsey should check with Traffic Engineering
Department regarding this pervious concrete.
Ed Bethel - See written comments (Attachment No.8).
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Don Meerians - Stated (1) the sidewalks should be shown on the site plan, (2) the
40 ft. drainage,and utility easement along U.S. Hwy. 19 should be labeled, and
(3) the site plan should show what will be done about a median break on U.S. 19.
Discussion ensued regarding the deceleration lane.
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Paula Harvey - Stated there were several things that needed to be shown on
the site plan: (1) the need to show the calculations for the requirement of
parking 8paces~ (2) the need to identify the heights of the buildings in fcet~
(3) there is a requirement for loading spaces to accommodate the buildings--
two arc required for the office building, and two for the shopping center;
(4) there is n requirement for landscaping between the parking area on the cast
side of the property and the multi-family development of Woodland Villas--
buffering and landscaping. Some of the property owners in Woodland Villas prefer
to have it fenced. Mrs. Harvey stated that she would like to advise Mr. Ramsey
that, apparentlYI there had been a verbal commitment for a fence and the City
commission would be expecting them to comply with that commitment. In answer to
Nr. Ramsey's questionl Mrs. Harvey stated this would be a wooden fence in lieu of
landscaping. Mrs. Harvey further stated that there were several points of
information needed on the site plan before certification, which were: (1) a
legal description and location map, (2) specifically identify the CP zoning on the
sitel (3) identify all the existing signs, on the site and where the new identifi-
cation sign will be located, (4) provide a landscaping plan to be submitted with
the construction drawingsl (5) the former approvals of the site plan contained
the condition that any billboards that were existing within that 40 ft. area
between U.S. 19 and the parking spaces be removed at the owner's expense at such
time that land area is necessary for improvement of U.S. 19, and that condition
will be carried forward on this plan.
Ream Wilson - See written comments (Attachment No.9).
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Nick Lewis moved to continue this item to the Resource Development Meeting
of July 111 1985
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The motion was seconded by Robert Maran, and carried unanimously.
6. Ashland Heights Subdivision (formerly Landmark Woods) - located on McMullen
Booth Road south of Oak Creek of Countryside (plat change) (A preliminary
subdivision plat was approved by City Commission on July 19, 19841 and
certified by the City Clerk on Jan. 221 1985) I'
REVISED PLAT - APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS
Nick Lewis - No comments.
Robert Maran - Commented that a drainage and utility easement over the retention
area should be shown on the plat. Mrs. Haeseker stated that the two retention
ponds must be under private ownership, and the Committee is suggesting Lot 10
on one, and Lot 11 and Lot 20 on the other. Mrs. Harvey stated that this was a
condition on the plat from the very beginning and cannot be privately owned by
the homeowner's association.
Ed Bethel - No comments.
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Don Meerians - Commented that the people with double frontage lots are responsible
for sidewalks on both sides, such as on McMullen-Booth Road and on Landmark.
This would be 4' sidewalks on residential streetsl and 5' on both McMullen Booth
and Landmark.
Claude Howell - No comments.
Paula Harvey - No comments.
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Ream Wilson - See written comments (Attachment No. 10).
Paula Harve~ moved to recommend approval of the Revised Preliminary Plat for
Ashland Heights Subdivision subject to the following conditions:
I. that retention areas be platted 9S part of the adjacent lots;
2. thdt the open space and recreation fees be paid prior to recording the
final plat;
3., that 4 ft. ,sidewalks be provided on the internal street systemL and
5 ft. sidewalks on Landmark Drive and McMullen Booth Road; and
4. that drainage and utility easements required by Public Works be shown
on the plat.
The motion was seconded by Robert Marant and carried unanimously.
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Discussion ensued regarding the private ownership of the retention ponds.
Paula' Harvey stated the need for a recommendation from the Committee as to
"whether this would'be a major or 8 minor plan change. Mrs. Haeseker stated
it. would be a minor plan. change, and all Committee members agreed.
The meeting adjourned at 11:05 A. M.
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