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Novomber 8, 1984
Members presontl
Nick Lcwis Fire Marshal, Acting Chairman
John Rooks - Engineer, Public Works
~odd Leaohman - Engineering Student
'E~'B~thel Director, Building Department
Keith Crawford - Director, Traffic Engineering
'Cecil Henderson - Director, Utilities Department
Paula Harvey Director, Planning Department
Ream Wilson - Director, Parks & Recreation
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Others present:
Jack & Donna Vasco Far Vasco Building
Curt Kiser, Attorney II II II
Bill Davis II II II
Charles Dean II II II
Frank Foran For Lokey Subdivision
D., '0. McFarland, Atty. II II II
M.erle .v." Zimmer II II II
,WayneL~l.zer II Plymouth Plaza
, D. Scott.Douglas - For Dimmitt Dealerships
',Andy, By leng a II II U
~ean' Jensen - Rec6rding Secretary
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ictirig 'C~airman Nick Lewis called the maeting to order at 9:03 a. m. in
t~e Operati6ns Center Conference Room, City Hall Annex
~inutes of the regular meetings of October 11, 1984 and October 25, 1984
were reviewed and approved as amended.
~eith Crawford suggested that recording secretaries include their names
under' the list of 1I0thers presentll.
Jack & Donna Vasco building for retail and'light manufacturing,
.located on Kapp Drive, approximately 125 ft. north of Palmetto
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Co~rtesy R~vie~ Onl~
; ,Preliminary 'Si te Plan
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Item #1
John Rooks - No comments.
,'Ed Bethel - asked that when plans are final, the developer seek the ad-
'vice, and counsel of the Plans Examiner in the Building Department, par-
ticula~ly'aboutopenings and the ~istance from lot lineS.
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\!~/:.,"" into:::a.building. Also driveway must be the full 24 ft. width into the
~t.;.; ,': parki rig' lot.
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i~:" r) Item # 1 (Continuod)
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Cecil Honderson - Submitted written comments.
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Paula Harvey - Ascertained that final use of building is for office
space and storage.
Ream Wilson - Submitted written comments See attachments #2 and #3.
Nick Lewis - Advised an on-site fire hydrant needed and recommended'
that this be located at the entrance.
John Rooks reminded developer that since this is being built in the
County and County will issue all permits all inspections will be
made by the County, not the City of Clearwater.
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MOTION: Paula Harvey moved that we advise PinelIas County that
we recommend approval of the site plan for the Vasco in-
dustrial building subject ,to the following conditions:
That a handicapped parking space be provided.
that the entrance drive be a full 24 ft. in width into
the, lot;
that there should be provided an approved site for
location of the dumpster;
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Motion seconded by Cecil Henderson and carried unanimously.
At~this point, Chairman Haeseker1s memorandum of November 5, 1984.was
drs~uss~dand allagreed.to changing RDC January meeting dates to Janu-
... aril.', ~.,and. o1.a~u~ry 17.- ~E7sEe~!:ively.
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, ,. Item # 2 - Lokey Subdi vis ion, loea ted on 'the northwest corner 0 f U. s.
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'Y~eliminary Subdivision Plan.
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~John Rooks - Suggested removal of reference to "block".
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:: ,Cecil Henderson - No comment.
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-~ ~aula'Harvey - No comment regaiding format of plat." Stated would be
ich~~uling review of the preliminary plat for the Planning & Zoning Board
",'ori' December 4 and as a result of that the'Community Impact Statement, the
i,\:;.' :,platJ.and the site plan for Lokey Motors would all go to'the Commission on
i~',:,~" ": ,: Decemb.'er 20 for f ina 1 approval on everything.
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Item Q2 (Continued)
~Nick Lewis - No comments.
MOTION: Paula Harvey recommended approval of the Preliminary Subdivision
Plat for Lokey Subdivision subject to changing the Innguago idontify-
ing the two ownerships fr'om "blocks U to Ulots u. ~
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Motion seconded by Cecil Henderson and carried unanimously.
Item #3 - Plymouth Plaza (formerly Countryside Towers) located between
Enterpr i se Road and U. S. 19, north of U. s. lIome Bui Ld tng . (P lymouth
Development corporation).
Revised Final site Plan
John Rooks - Stated not quite sure what was transpiring. A plat had been
submitted and was then picked up by someone. Does this mean there will
be changes in the plat; there will not be a plat; will this be all one
ownership? Mr. Blazer explained facts regarding agreement with original
owner of part of this parcel and advised this entire plat will be under
one ownership. John Rooks stated all easements will now have to be re-
viewed and will require separate documentation. All other requirements
as covered in RDC Meeting of June 14, 1984 regarding detention area,
erosion control, etc. will still remain in eff.ect.
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::', t';Jsu9gested developer consult with plans examiner in Building Department re-
i:::_garding this. Also wants to see site lighting on final plan.
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these represented drop-off services.
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cecil Henderson - written comments attached. See attachment #4. Of
special concern is the 8" water main between the two buildings on the
East where there is strong potential to undermine the buildings if the
main should ever leak. Cecil stated we could not permit this main to
pass between these buildings.
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Paula Harvey - advised the original conditions of approval would still be
applicable to this site plan. Site plan indicates a split in zoning -
this no longer in effect} all now zoned PS and this should be changed on
plan'. Ms. Harvey informed Committee all variances have been approved.
Plans will have to be signed and sealed by a registered architect or en-
~/'.' gineer. Also Environmental staff concerned about parking spaces at
~,~,i', building #3;, seven parking spaces should be relocated because of closeness
,,;,:," to cypress area and developer should work wi th Mike Kenton on this. In
~ "'r~sponse to questions from Mr. Blazer, Paula Harvey and John Rooks commented
;":':-.,, ,'he sh'ould work. closely with all departments in working out final details
7~::I,. on site plan before certification to avoid the possibility of having to
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Item 13 (Continued)
ONiCk Lewis -', appoars to bo on 1 y ana f iro hyd ro n t on pla n. Wi 11 require
an additional hydrant and if possible would liko thia placed betweon
Buildings #3 and #4
MOTION: Paula Harvey moved to recommond approval of tho Rovised Finol
Site Plan for Plymouth Plu~a buaad upon the findings of the Committee
that the plan conforms with tho design guidolinos for site plan review
subject to -
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A - The following changos be mado on tho plan prior to certification:
That the referonce to CP Zoning on the parcel be ~evised to
reflect PS Zoning
that the plans to be certified be signed and sealed by a registered
architect or engineer as required by code;
that the water main be relocated as required by the Utilities De-
partment~
. that the dumpster locations be revised with the new locations
approved by the Sanitation Superintendent1
that an additional fire hydrant be located on the site, preferably,
between buildings #3 and #4.
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B - The following conditions to be noted on the plan as certified:
That a 40 ft. ROW Easement be granted on U. S. 191
that a 10 ft. utility easement be required over all the mains
up to and including the hydrants and meters;
that final retention design be approved by the Public Works
Department in consideration of the Cypress area~
that prior to the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy, ease-
ments ,be provided to the owners of the U. S. Home Building for
seven parking spaces provided on the Plymouth Plaza site in
'satisfaction of the parking requirements for the U. S. Home Build-
in91
that any relocation or realignment of the roadway, building,' or
parking must be coordinated through the City Environmental staff,
and,
. that the requisite initial building permit be issued within six
months from approval of the site' plan and the project be completed
within three years.
Motion seconded by Cecil Henderson and carried unanimously.
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'~:..' Item #4 - Dimmitt 'Dealerships, located on East side of U. S. 19, south of
;;,," '" First Avenue North; revision consists of 2 added billboards and re-
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per~i~s and (21 show site lighting on final plan.
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Keith Cra~ford - no commont~.
Cocil Hendorson - no comments
Paulu Harvoy - briefly reviewed this project stating we hnvo a certifiod
site plan for the Dimmitt Dealership and a~ the time the plan was re-
viewed by the staff and the City Commission, thoro was no indication
that there were to bo any billboards. As a result of this present re-
quest. this is baing looked at as an addition of structures to the site,
which nocessitates a plan review. As a result of reviews by in-house
staff, particularly Environmental, Planning & Urban Development and
Parks & Recreation, a great deal of concern has been voiced by the staff
ahout the necessity of having to remove trees in order to provide the
vista needed for the signs to be observed from .the roadway by passing
motorists. The concern is twofold - (1) the fact that the Dimmitt Dealer-
ship site itself was developed in such a manner that it necessitated re-
moval of a great many trees in the first place, and (2) the trees that
were allowed to remain on the site, were those towards the front, adjacent
to the rigI1t-of-way and in the ROW easement. The request now being made
is going to necessitate removal of these trees - the ones that were anti-
'cipated as being the ones to remain on the site.
The concerns of the staff will be voiced to the City Commission and it is
basically going to be a request for the Commission to provide policy to
,.,~' the, staff on how we should treat the request for placement of off-
'",;/ premise signs on a piece of property when it requires a great deal of
. tree removalJ trees that would remain in place were it not for the signs.
This will be a,matter of policy determination since we do not have a specifiC
code requirement other than the fact that trees removed, would have to be
replaced.
In addition to that, the Planning Department has always had a concern about
,the placement of Off-premise signs on a major roadway in terms of aesthetics.
'However, we are cognizant of the fact that the Code permits these signs -
the new code will permit them - and therefore the Planning Department does
not say they should' not be allowed, but wants to make sure a piece of proper-
ty is no~'being de~troyed in order to accomodate signs.
Ream .Wilson - submitted comments from the Landscape Architect (Charles Dray)
(See"'attachment #7) and echoed Paula Harvey's concerns. While we do have
a certified site plan which details all of the tree removal, replants, etc.,
there is not enough room on the site as it is for the replants that have
to be made, much less available room for the replanting of trees that will
be destroyed to accomodate a view of billboards.
Nick Lewis - No comments.
MOTION: Paula Harvey moved that we recommend to the City Commission that
'the request for plan amendment to locate the off-premise signs as shown on
,;,"~~the revised site plan be denied for the reasons stated by the Planning De-
>, ':"~.Aartment and Parks & Recreation Department, with the concurrence of Public
, Works.
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Discussion on motion Paula Harvey ,clarified for Koith Crawfo~d that
there is no problem with the location of the signs -the problem is,with
removal of the trees to provide vista to the signs.
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Mr. Scott Douglas stated that when the original site plan was approved
'one of the conditions of approval was that they would comply with the
tr~e ordinance and trees removed would be replaced. This,is still their
position. Paula Harvey responded the problem is there is no place to
re16cate the tree~. 'Mr. Douglas referred to three acres available in
the conte'r which should be sufficient space to replant trees. However,.
this three"acres is not a part of the site plan.
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