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RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
City of Clearwater, Florida
August 9, 1984
MEMBERS PRESENT:
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Elizabeth Haeseker, Assistant City Manager, Chairman
John Chester, Representing Fire Department
John Rooks, Representing Public Works Department
Andy Onufer, Representing Building Department
. Don Meerians, Representing Traffic Engineering Department
Cecil Henderson, Utilities Department
Paula Harvey, Planning Department
Ream Wilson, Parks and Recreation Department
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NON-MEMBERS PRESENT:
Richard S~ Olsen, King Engineering
Fred W.' Green
William B. Harvard, Jr., HJM Architects
John W~ Mart;s~ Caudell-Gaylor~ Inc.
Bruce Martz, Lloveras, Baur & Stevens
ClintStevens~ Lloveras, Baur & Stevens
Kami.Targal, C.A. Peterson, Inc.
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~The meeting was called to order by Chairman Elizabeth Haeseker at 9:05 a.m.
in '~heOperations Center Conference Room.
...iiTEM .'11- PIr~EVIEW APARTMENTS, located South of Greenlea Drive, East of
.Highland Avenue.
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COMMUNITY IMPACT STATEMENT
.John Chester - No comments.
John Rooks - No.' conments.
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Andy Onufer - No comments.
Don Meerians - No comments.
'j Cecil. Henderson.- Liked the use of shallow wells for irrigation. (See written comments
Attachment #1)
Paula Harvey - No.comments.
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Presented written comments regarding the open space assesment.
(Attachment #2)
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Cecil Henderson moved to approve the Community Impact Statement for Pineview
Apartments subject to their submission of the additional sheets required by
the Parks Department.
Motion was seconded by Paula Harvey and carried unanimously.
FINAL SITE PLAN
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John Chester - No comments.
John,Rooks - ~rese~ted written comments prepared by Karen Wilson concerning
erOSlon and s11tatlon control methods, and obtaining a Clearing and Grubbing
permit. See Attachment #3.
Andy Onufer - Presented written copy of the information required for submittal
of drawings for construction.
Don Meerians - Commented that developer was only required to have two
handicapped parking spaces.
Cecil Henderson - Presented written comments concerning a double check valve
backflow prevention device being required, and easements that must be granted
covering the mains within the Pines and Pineview Apartments. See attachment #6.
Paula Harvey - Planning Department comments are as follows:
1. Identify on the plan what the impermeable coverage is.
2. Need to identify the typical size and location of the landscaping
on the plan.
3. Identify proppsed location of identification sign for the project.
4. Indicate the height of building. The height of the buildings cannot
exceed. the separation distance between buildings.
Ream Wilson - Presented written comments prepared by the City Forester. See
attachment #7.
'. MOTION: Cecil Henderson moved to recommend approval of the final site plan of
Pineview Apartments based upon a finding of this Committee that the plan confol~s
with the design guidelines for site plan review subject to the following conditions:
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1. . That water easements be granted over the existing lines in the
Pines of Clearwater and over the proposed lines in Pineview
Apartments. (10' easement, 5' on either side of the water main
.up to and including the meters and hydrants.)
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Page Three
Item #1 (Continued)
2. To identify the impenmeable covered area on the plan.
3. To identify the typical size and type of landscaping on the plan.
4. To show the location of the identification sign on the plan.
5. To show the height of the building on the plan, in feet.
6. That the requisite initial building penmits be issued within six
months from the date of approval of the final site plan and all
requisite certificates of occupancy be issued within two years
from the date of issuance of the initial building permit.
Motion was seconded by John Chester and carried unanimously.
Chainman Haeseker left the meeting at this point with Ream Wilson chairing
. the rema i nder of the meeti n9.
ITEM #2 - CREST LAKE OAKS OFFICE COMPLEX, located on South side of Rainbow
Drive, between Yelvington Avenue and Keystone Drive.
COMMUNITY IMPACT STATEMENT
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John Chester - No comments on CIS.
John Rooks - No comment on CIS.
Andy Onufer - No comment.
.Don Meeri ans - No conment.
Paula' Harvey - Planning Department needs a letter of compliance:assuring that
the owner will develop the project in accordance with the provisions and
performance obligations of the CIS.
Ream Wilson - Presented written comments prepared by the Parks Department,
See attachment #8.
Cecil Henderson - Presented written comments regarding water metering, refuse
. .collection,and that natural gas is readily available to the site. See attach-
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.;'MOTION: Paula Harvey moved to approve the Communi ty Impact Statement for
.' Crest lake Oaks Office Complex, subject to the following revisions to be made
. in an addendum to the'Community Impact Statement:
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Meeting of August 9. 1984
Page Four
Item #2 (Continued)
1. That a ,1 etter of compl i ance be submi tted assuri ng that the
project will be developed in accordance with provisions of
the Community Impact Statement.
2. That the calculations for open space fees be changed to
reflect calculation based on gross acreage of the site.
3. That the statement regarding water supply be amended to
reflect water metering as required by Utilities.
4. That the Community Impact Statement note that natural gas
is available in the area.
Motion seconded by Andy Onufer and carried unanimously.
FINAL SITE PLAN
John Chester - No comment.
Andy Dnufer - Presented written comments required for submittal of drawings
fo~ construction. (See attachments #4 and #5)
Don Meerians - Sidewalks must be shown on plan to continue South of the
driveway on Yelvington. Driveway on Yelvington cannot be approved as
shown,on plan. Called to the Conmitteets and.developer's attention that
,. thfs.problem had been discussed with the developer and that he was made
'aware. of the fact that two driveways side by side are not acceptable by
,code.
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There followed considerable discussion between Don Meerians, John Rooks,
Keith Crawford and the developer in which Mr. Crawford clarified that the
.law provides that all. parking and loading for the the development of the
. property be designed in such a way that it is not necessary to back into the
street to leave the property. Also pointed,out that another part of the
code specifies that for institutional, professional~ etc. developments you
are required to have two loading spaces if you have more than 20,000 sq. ft.,
.' of building. Further, the spaces must be 300 sq. ft. net and should
preferably measure 12 foot by 30 foot. Requirements are applicable to this site.
Cecil Henderson - Presented written comments regarding water metering and
dumpster. location. (See attachment #11)
Paula Harvey- Planning Department comments are as fallows:
1. Need a North arrow on the site plan.
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2. Owner~s name needs to appear on the site plan.
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Page Five
Item D2 (Continued)
3. Need to show where identification sign will be located.
4. Note that required parking for this site is 88 spaces.
5. Project will require two loading spaces on the site.
6. Fence height must drop to no more than 30" in front of
the building set-back area.
7. Parking spaces next to Rainbow Drive should be located no
closer than 51 to the Right-of-Way.
Ream Wilson - Presented written comments prepared by the City Forester.
(See attachment #12)
DISCUSSION: The architect proposed a change to the plan; however, after
discussion by the Committee and the architec~Mr. Crawford suggested that
the problem needed to. be resolved outside the meeting.
. MOTION: Don Meerians moved to continue review of the final site plan for
Crest Lake Oaks Office Complex until the applicant has resubmitted to
the Committee a revised plan consistent with our comments. Motion seconded
by John Rooks and carried unanimously.
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. ITEM #3 - OFFICE BUILDING FOR PERENICH & CARROLL, located on the South side
of Sunset Point Road, approximately 900 feet West of Hercules.
FINAL SITE PLAN .
John Chester - No comment.
Andy Dnufer - Presented written corrments of requirements fo.r construction
drawing submittal.
Don Meerians - Sidewalk needs to be shown on plan along Sunset Point Road.
Cecil Henderson - Submitted written comments regarding the water service
line~ including the water meter, will be installed by the City, and that
the dumpster location is not approved as shown. (See attachment #13)
Paula Harvey - Planning Department comments are as follows:
1. Need to s~ow location of identification sign.
2. Need to identify surrounding zoning to the project site.
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Page Six
Item #3 (Continued)
3. Notation regarding required set-backs is incorrect. Please
refer to Section 131.121 2C for the set-back requirements.
4. Loading zone is in a peculiar place for effectiveness in
unloading for the building.
5. Sidewalks should also appear on the site plan.
6. Add a condition that the outparce1s resulting from the project
will actually go through the fonmal site plan review at time
they are proposed to be developed, and that platting will be
required at that time if land area is to be leased or sold.
Ream Wilson - NO,comments from the City Forester. Written comments from
Landscape Architect and Parks Department. (Attachments #14 & 15.)
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John Rooks - Presented written' comments prepared by the Engineering
Department. (See attachment #16)
MOTION: Paula Harvey moved to recommend approval of the final site plan
based,upon a finding of this Committee that the plan conforms with the
design. guidelines for site plan review. subject to the following changes
being made on .the plan:
1.. Proposed sign location be shown on the site plan.
2. 'Sllrrounding zoning be shown on the site plan.
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3. That the statement regarding required setbacks be corrected as
required by code.
4. That sidewalks be noted on the site plan.
5. . That the statement regarding installation of water lines be revised
to state' that the City will install the lines.
6. That the dumpster location be revised as required by the Sanitation
Superintendent. .
7. ,That stonm water detention be provided to meet City. requirements.
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That the following conditions be noted on the certified site plan:
1. That outparcels go through formal site plan review prior to
development.
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Item #3 (Continued)
2. That platting be required if the outparcel land areas are leased
or sold to another owner.
3. That the initial building permit be issued within six months from
date of City Manager approval, and that the project be completed
within two years from date of issuance of initial building permit.
Motion seconded by John Chester and carried unanimously.
ITEM #4 - CLEARWATER ELK'S LODGE, located on S.R. 588, approximately 450 feet
. West of Soule Road.
FINAL SITE PLAN
John Chester - No comments.
John Rooks - Presented written comments prepared by the Environmental Division.
1See attachment #17)
Andy Dnufer - Presented written comments required for submittal of drawings
for construction. (See attachments #4 & 5)
,Don Meerians - Traffic Engineering's comments are as follows:
1. Sidewalk along Main street is the developer's responsibility.
Since it is a. small section, a waiver could be requested.
2. North end of parcel where pavement runs to property line needs
a buffer. '
3. Road. is 24' running to the North and as it turns, the road narrows
to 20'. Must be consistently 24'.
4. Questioned if the parking area would be grass. The developer replied
that driveways and slots close to the building that would be used
everyday wo'uld be paved. .
Cecil Henderson - Presented written comments concerning size of water main,
easement requirement and backflow prevention devices. (See attachment #18)
Paula Harvey ~ Planning Department's comments are that the plan needs to show
the proposed site for identification sign and that grass parking is subject
to the approval of the City Engineer.
Ream Wilson -Presented written comments prepared by the Parks Department and
. the. City Forester. (See attachment #19 and #20)
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Item #4 (Continued)
Andy Onufer questioned the requirements for grass parking. Paula Harvey
answered that on previous parking projects such as this Keith Crawford had
suggested that at such time as it became apparent that parking is being
used more, and that it would require a more stabilized surface, that developer
would be required to pave the parking area. The City would make that
detenmination. She further requested a note be made on the plan to that
effect.
MOTION: Cecil Henderson moved to recommend approval of the final site plan
for the Clearwater Elks Lodge based on the finding of this Committee that
the plan confonms with the design gUidelines for site plan review and subject
to the following conditions:
1. The indication of sidewalk along Main Street across the project
limit line as shown on the plan.
2. To modify the radius at the entrance drive to meet Traffic
Engineering requirements.
3. Trim back the area for the back-up drive to 5' from the project line.
4. That all drives be a minimum of 241.
5. The parking lot for everyday parking must be paved and indicated as
such on the plan.
6.. The requirement that 10' utility easements be provided over the
water mains up to and including hydrants and meters.
7. That the sign for this development be indicated on the plan if
there is to be 'one.
8. Requirement that grass parking only be provided as approved by
the City Engineer.
9. Payment of the appropriate open space assessments be paid prior
to certification of the final site plan.
.. 10. That the requisite initial building pennits be .issued within six
months from the date of City Manager approval of the final ,site
plan and all requisite certificates of occupancy be issued within
two years of the date of issuance of the initial building permit.
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Claude Howell replaced Cecil Henderson for the Utilities Department at this
time.
ITEM #5 - MENNA MOTEL, located U.S. 19 South on the West side of u.s. 19 South.
approximately 200 feet South of Druid Road.
John Chester - No comments.
John Rooks - Presented written comnents regarding right-of-way easement and
concern over the relocation of the:ditch. (See Attachment #21)
There followed considerable discussion on the concerns of the Environmental
Division between Ream Wilson, Paula Harvey, John Rooks and the developer.
Andy Onufer - Presented written infonmation required for submittal of drawings
for construction. (See Attachments #4 and #5)
Don Meerians - Traffic Engineering's only comment is that the two parallel
parking spaces are too deep as shown on the plan.
Claude Howell - Presented written comments concerning water supply, availability
of natural gas. and approval of the dumpster location. (See Attachment # 22)
Paula Harvey- Planning Department comments are as follows:
1. .Plan indicates that zoning along Western side of project is CG,
correct zoning is RMH.
2. It was the Pinellas County Planning Council's direction to the City
of Clearwater concerning this project that the City protect as many
. trees as possible on this site. The Planning Department supports
. any recommendations of the Environmental Division to save as many
trees as possible.
3. Net density on this project must include the driveway along tha
North, South and East of this project changing the calculations
to 1.23 net acres. This would permit only 50 motel units on the
site.
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A furth~r note to the Committee that the configuration of the layout of the
buildings on site was something that Mr. Menna worked out with Planning,
and this site plan is much improved over the initial submission. It is
,Planning's thought that the deletio~)of four units should help the project
meet Environmental's concerns.
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Item H5(Continued)
Ream ,Wilson - Presented written comments.prepared by the Parks Department and
the Environmental Division. (See attachments #23 and #24). One of the
primary concerns of Environmental was the re-alignment of the "Ditch"~
Deletion of the four units would probably take care of this problem.
,However) in view of .Environmental's concerns, Ream Wilson is not in a
position to approve the site. plan. It was his recommendation to review
,a revised plan at a special meeting after the developer had a chance to
work'with.EnvironmentalManagement to resolve their concerns.
MOTION: Paula Harvey moved to continue review of .the site plan for Menna
Motel until.a special meeting on Tuesday, August 14, 1984 at 8:30 a~m.
. Motion carr,ied unanimously.
There being no further business before the Committee, the meeting was
'.adjourned at" 10:35 a.m.
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