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RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
City of Clearwater, Florida
April 12, 1984
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MEMBERS PRESENT:
Nick Lewis, Fire Department, Acting Chairman
Cecil Henderson, Utilities Department
Chris.Papandreas, Acting Planning Director
Ed Bethel, Building Director
Ream Wilson, Parks and Recreation Director
John Rooks, Representing Public Works Department
Don Meerians, Representing Traffic Engineering Department
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NON-MEMBERS PRESENT:
Ronald E. Riley, King Engineering Associates
Richard E.,Olsen, King Engineering Associates
.Douglas O.Roach
Thomas J. Panaseny, Han & Associates, Inc.
.'. Ken Wi erhert
Emil ,C. Marquardt, Jr.
Harold Cobb~ SKHHP
'.Richard Fol1ett~ Morton Plant Hospital
.Douglas Dalhauser, Morton Plant Hospital
. ,Bill.Haynie .
'. .'Kami ..Targal , 'C.A. Peterson
Michael" Ni ckl as "Innovative Desi gn
~ Car1'Graham, Coachman Center
.: ' B'i1l,Kasak, Post, Buckley, ,Shuh, & Jernigan
. Scott Douglas,.Macfarlane; Ferguson, Allison & Kelly
.' . Forrest Watson, F.W. Architects
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. .. :The meeting was called to order by Acting Chairman Lewis at 10:10 a.m. in
the.Operations Center Conference Room.
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.~.. Minutes of March 22, 1984'RDC Meeting
'.:, .The minutes of the March 22, 1984 meeting were approved with corrections noted
on pagel under Planning comments and also under Engineering comments.
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Item #1 - NICK MICHEL SUBDIVISION (Located on East side of Landmark Drive,
. ~ ollPosite Buxton Court.. '
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT
No comments.
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Item #1 (Continued)
Ed Bethel: No comments.
Don Meeri ans: No COITlllents.
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Cecil Henderson: No comments.
Chris Papandreas: Need to properly note on the plat. "Michel Subdivision.
Lot 1 and Lot 211 rather than designating a future lot line. Also need to
note dimensions. .
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Ream Wilson: The City Forester has no comments. Regarding recreational
impact fees. please refer to Attachment #1.
Nick Lewis: No comments.
MOTION:. Cecil Henderson made a motion that the Committee recommend approval
of the prelimlnary subdivision plat of Nick Michel Subdivision subject to
the following condition: '
1. That the lots be properly labeled and dimensional.
, Chris Papandreas seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
Item #2 - LAKE CHAUTAUQUA ESTATES (Located North and South of 8th Avenue South,
East of U.S. 19 and 1st Street East.) .
COMMUNITY IMPACT STATEMENT
~ohn Rooks: Presented written comments prepared by the Engineering Department
. rAt~achmen~ #2). No cOlrment on CIS. . .
Ed B~thel:~Wanted to compliment King Engineering on a nice job.
. . Don Meeri ans: No comments.
, Cecil Henderson: Presented written comments prepared by the Utilities Department.
(Attachment #3)
Chris :Papandreas: No comments.
Ream Wi1soQ: Presented written comments from the City Forester and the Parks
Department. (Attachments #4 & #5)
. Ni ck Lewi s: No comments.
MOTION: Cecil Henderson made a motion that the Committee recommend approval of
the community impact'statement. Motion was seconded by Ed Bethel and.
, carri ed unanimously.
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PRELIMINARY SUBOIVISION PLAT
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John Rooks: Refer to Attachment #2 for Engineering comments. City has a problem
with vacating 1st Street.
Ed Bethel: No comments.
Don Meerians: Cul-de-sacs must be the diameter shown on the printed sheet
shown to developer. I
Cecil Henderson: In the way. of suggestion, Utilities Department has some
ideas on modification of water system to save money and provide a better water
circu1ation.
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Chris Papandreas: Noted that showing detention in a right-of-way not yet
vacated is premature.
Ream Wilson: No comments.
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Nick Lewis: No comments.
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MOTION: Cecil Henderson made a motion that the Committee recommend approval
e of the preliminary subdivision plat of Lake Chautauqua Estates subject to the
following:
1. Somewhere on the subdivision plat the \-lOrding uSubdivi sian Platll
must appear.
2. That prior to the authorization of the plat, that the park
fees will be paid.
3. That the approval of this preliminary subdivision plat does
not indicate approval or recommendation for the vacation
of First Street.
Motion was seconded by John Rooks and carried unanimously.
Item #3 - PROFESSIONAL PYRAMID PLAZA (Located on North side of Orew Street,
approximately 550 ft. East of Intersection with N.E. Coachman Road)
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT
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John Rooks: 'p resented wri tten comments prepared by the Eng i neer; n9 Depa rtment.
(Attachment #6)
Ed Bethel: No comments.
Don Meerians: No comments.
Cecil ,Henderson: Presented written comments prepared by the Utilities Department
for information only. (Attachment #7) No comment on plat.
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Chris Papandreas: Noted Mr. Panaseny's request to pull a building permit
prior to final subdivision plat approval.
Ream Wilson: Presented written comments prepared by City Forester and Parks
Department (Attachments #8 & #9)
Nick Lewis: No comments as regards the plat. In the way of infonmation, as
far as the site plan is concerned, one hydrant will be required.
MOTION: . Cecil Henderson made a motion that the Committee reconunend approval
of the preliminary subdivision plat of Professional Pyramid Plaza, subject
to the following condition:
1. That a la' easement be provided around the perimeter
of the property.
Motion seconded by Chris Papandreas.
Chris Papandreas further moved that the Resource Development Committee endorse
the applicant's request to pull a building permit prior to final subdivision
plat approval. Cecil Henderson seconded the addition to the motion. Motion
and addition carried unanimously.
Item #4 - MORTON PLANT HOSPITAL. PARKING GARAGE, ENERGY CENTER TUNNEL, AND
CENTRAL STORE. .
CIS AND CIS ADDENDUM
John Rooks: No comments.
Ed. Bethel: Questioned_the ,architect as to whether or not, there would be'lobbies
around the elevators in the parking garage. The architect responded that
,there would be lobbies located in that area.
. Don.Meerians: Questioned if the parking garage would be open to the public.
,Mr. Dalhauser replied that it would not.
Cecil Henderson: Presented written comments prepared by the Utilities
. Department. (Attachment #10)
Chris Papandreas: Commented that the Planning Department would require a
letter of compliance.
Ream Wilson: Presented written comments prepared by the City Forester and
the Parks Department. (Attachments 11 & 12)
Nick Lewis: No comments as regards CIS.
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MOTION: Cecil Henderson made a motion to approve the community impact statement
SUbJeCt to the following:
1. That a letter of compliance be submitted.
2. Recognition of the requirement for payment of appropriate
open space impact fees.
Motion was seconded by Ream Wilson and carried unanimously.
FINAL SITE PLAN
John Rooks: Presented written comments prepared by the Engineering Department.
(Attachment #13)
Don Meerians: Questioned if driveways going into the parking lot are two-way
- drives., Response was that they were. Drive into parking lot shows it coming
in at two different angles on two different sheets. Main concern is left
turning movements off of Pinellas Street will block thru traffic since Pine11as
Street is so narrow. Questioned if the widening of Pinel1as Street had been
considered. Representatives of Morton Plant feel that it will not impact
the amount of traffic since they are merely providing parking space for the
people already being provided for. South-side of building shows three off-
street loading spaces which looks on plan as if it blocks everything else.
Reply was that it is not a traffic access. Don requested a volume count be
taken on Pinellas Street.
Cecil Henderson: Presented written comments as prepared by the Utilities
Department. (Attachment #14)
Chris Papandreas: Planning Department commented that several.items were
addressed by-the City Commission specifically to be included on the final
site plan:
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1. Verification of the assessed just value and the most recent
sales price.
2. Building relocation.
3. Surrounding zoning must be shown on the site plan.
Also, you will need a single sheet that meets all requirements for a site
plan~ On the site plan you will need to show the fallowing:
1. The surrounding zoning.
2. Sizing of utility lines.
3. Landscaping including typical heights,and size of trees
remaining and size of 'trees being removed.
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Item #4 (Continued)
Chris Papandreas (Continued):
Commented that the Commission had instructed the Committee to address the
. relocation of the building which is n~t shown on the site plan submitted.
The attorney from Morton Plant Hospital stated that the architects did not
agree that the hospital would move the bUilding. They expressed the following
concerns:
1. Moving the building 32' to the East will be a real
problem. While they do own other property, it is
reserved for other uses. This property is in the
core of the hospital, and that is where they need to
put the parking.
2. To the East is a nursing home and a rehab area where
long-term patients reside, and moving the building 32'
to the East would put it directly alongside these
two buildings. There is a concern about the shadowing
effect and also the appropriate buffering will not be
possible. It would significantly, adversely impact
the entire area to move the building.
There followed discussion between the Committee and representatives from
Morton Plant Hospital with the outcome being an agreement to disagree.
Cecil Hende~son suggested that since he doesn't see a resolution at this
time, that a special meeting should be scheduled. This will give them
time to redo the site plan and clear up traffic flow problems and noise/air
pollution difficulties.
Ream Wilson: Presented written comments prepared by the City Forester and
Parks.Oepartment. (Attachments 11 & 12)
Nick Lewis: Hydrants are lacking. Will need 300' spacing to the point of
any structure. Also lacking hydrants in the parking area.
,.Cecil Henderson additionally commented that because of statements regarding
air quality. and traffic being insufficient in CIS, he requested additional
information for the CIS.
MOTION: Chris Papandreas made a motion to continue review of the final site
pJan until the special meeting set for April 23, 1984 at 10:00 a.m. I~otion
was seconded by Ream Wilson and carried unanimously.
Cecil Henderson asked to ammend the approval of the CIS and CIS Addendum as
: follows: To -require that additional ;nfonnation be provided on the impact
'of .the air and noise quality and traffic for this project.
. Ream Wilson seconded the addition to the motion and it carried unanimously.
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Item #5 - MORELAND CONDOMINIUMS, located an Moreland Drive just North of
Hard Boulevard.
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John Rooks: Presented written comments prepared by Engineering Department.
(Attachment #15) Additionally commented that as far as the depressed sidewalk
was concerned. he just wanted it a little lower than the adjacent property.
Ed Bethel: No comments.
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Cecil Henderson: Plan meets requirements.
Chris Papandreas: Dimensions must be to scale. Maximum building height
should be stated as 201.
Ream Wilson: Presented written comments prepared by the City Forester and
the Parks Department. (Attachments 16 & 17.)
Nick Lewis: No comments.
MOTION: Cecil Henderson made a motion to recommend approval of the final site
plan based upon a finding of the Committee that the plan conforms with the
design guideline~ for site plan review subject to the fallowing:
1. That the plan be drawn to scale.
2. That" the dimensions be shown as true dimensions and not
approximate dimensions.
3. That the space and recreation assessment fees be paid as
required.
The motlon was seconded by Chris Papandreas and carried unanimously.
: Iie~'#6 ,- Waters Edge Townhomes, located on North side of Montclair Road,
150~'East of Keene Road.
To "be revi"ewed at special Resource Development Committee meeting, April 23, 1984
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Keith Crawford replaced Don Meerians at this point.
,Ed Bethel: No conments.
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Chris Papandreas: Withdrew comments about including portion of Lot 1 in the
developer's subdivision.
Ream Wi 1 son: No COlllllents.
John Rooks: No comments.
Nick Lewis: No comments.
MOTION: Chris Papandreas moved to approve the preliminary subdivision plat
for Rep1at of Portion of Lot 1, Mosell Acres. Cecil Henderson seconded the
motion which carried unanimously.
Item #8 - DIMMITT DEALERSHIPS~ located on East side of U. S. 19, South of
1st Avenue North.
COMMUNITY IMPACT STATEMENT AMENDMENT AND
SUPPLEMENT TO COMMUNITY IMPACT STATEMENT AMENDMENT
John Rooks: Presented written comments prepared by the Engineering Department.
,(Attachment #18)
,Ed Bethel: No comments.
Keith Crawford: No comments.
Cecil Henderson: Presented written comments prepared by the Utilities
Oepar~ent. (Attachment #19)
Chris Papandreas: Need to submit a letter of compliance.
, Ream Wilson: Presented written comments prepared by the City Forester and '
'Parks'Department. (Attachments 20 & 21)
Nick Lewis: No ~omments.
There followed considerable discussion between various members of the
. Committee and the developer and his representative on the environmental impact.
'Cecil Henderson moved to recommend approval of the community impact statement
subject to the submission of a letter of compliance. In addition, that we
add a,copyof the comments prepared by the environmental staff. Motion was
seconded by John Rooks and carried unanimously.
REVISED FINAL SITE PLAN
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John Rooks: Presented written comments prepared by the Engineering Department.
(See: Attachment ,#18) Also, take out notation 1 1/21 deep detention area
ihthe parking lot on the NE corner of the site. Elevation needs to be taken out.
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Ed. Bethe 1 : No C0lll11ents
Keith Crawford: 3rd Avenue South is not vacated in any portion. Plan shows
it vacated. Green spaces and concrete areas should be marked on plan.
Also, a 40' right-of-way easement will be required for the frontage roads
. along U. S. 19. Felt the Commission would have a problem with approving
the double driveway.
Cecil Henderson: Presented written comments prepared by the Utilities
Department. (Attachment #22)
Chris Papandreas: Planning Deparbnent comments are as follows:
1. Site plan needs to reflect parking calculations.
2. Aquatic land zoning needs to be submitted at the time
the final site plan goes to the Commission.
3. Impervious and pervious surface coverages are mismarked
in site description. It should reflect 26% pervious
and 74% impervious surface..
4. Required to show landscape plan, both type and size
of plants to be used.
Ream Wilson: Comments are the same as for the CIS. Comments made by
,Chris Cowles are the same for both comnunity, impact statement and final
site' plan..
, Ni ck' Lewi s: No comments. I,
. MOTION:'Ceci 1 Henderson moved to r~commend approval of the fi,nal si te pl an
based on the findings of this Committee that the plan conforms with the
.design gHidelines for site plan review and subject to the following:
1. A change in the note regarding the retention area within
the pavement. '
2. . Removal of a note concerning the vacation of Third Avenue South.
3. "' Dedication of a 40' right-of-way along U. S. 19.
4. Requirement that parking calculations be shown on plan.
5.. Aquatic land zoning will h~ye to be submitted at time plans
go to the.Ccmmission.
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Permeable area notation on the plan being correctly shown.
Indication of typical landscape planting and size of plants
on the' plan.
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8. Payment of the appropriate open space assessment fees.
9. That requisite initial building permits be issued within
six months from the date of approval of the City Manager of
the final site plan and all requisite certificates of
occupancy be issued within two years from the date of issuance
of the initial building penmit.
Motion'was.seconded by John Rooks.
Discussion: Concerning the possibility of barbed wire being used on the top
of the fence. Also about a variance for the 6' fence. Tree coverage needs
to be considered.
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION: Ream Wilson moved to amend the original motion to
include that the site plan approval is conditioned also on the developer
, meeting with City Forester, Chris Cowles and making arrangements to satisfy
the City's landscape and tree ordinances.
Chris Papandreas seconded the amendment to the motion. Amendment and motion
carried unanimously.
Item #9 CLEARWATER BEACH HOTEL, located on both sides of Gulf View Boulevard,
South of Baymont Street.
REVISED FINAL SITE PLAN
John Rooks: Presented written comments prepared by the Engineering Department.
(Atttachment #22)
Ed' Bethel: No conlllent.
,Keith Crawford: No comment.
Cecil Henderson: ,No comment.
Chris Papandreas: Planning Department comments are as fallows:
1. Notes on density transfer need the following corrections
9.7 should read 9.6 and 3.8 should read 3.6. 8.0 should
read 7.9 for a total of 21.'1. A 1 so, suggested wordi n9 is
"maximum total units allowed".
2. Only one side yard can be used for parking. Please delete,
the Northernmost parking space under the building.
3. Ask that prior to any approval of this plan, that the floor
plans be submitted to be sure that you are complying to the
definition of hotel units.
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Ream Wi1 son: Preserlted wri tten cOlMlents prepared by the Ci ty Forester and
~ar~s Deparbnent. (Attachments 24 & 25) Further commented that the City
is still awaiting payment of the $1,000 recreation facilities fee. This
fee must be paid before issuance of building penmit.
Nick Lewis: No comments.
MOTIO~: Cecil Henderson moved to reconmend approval of th~ revised final
s1te plan based on the findings of this Committee that the plan confonms
with the design guidelines for site plan review and subject to the following:
1. That the density transfer numbers be corrected to indicate
the total maximum number of units.
2. That the Northernmost parking space be deleted in order to
meet clear space requirements. .
3. The submission of a floor plan prior to the final
certification of the final site plan.
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4. Requisite initial building pennits be issued within six
months of the date of City Manager approval of the final
site plan, and all requisite certific~tes of occupancy be
issued within two years of date of issuance of the initial
building pennit.
Motion was seconded by John Rooks. Motion carried with Chris Papandreas
.abstai ni rig.
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