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01/12/1984 , ...' ,.\ ' ,'. '," .... , ,"'" ,< ' r--, !<..:.) , t"o ,', i, ' ~i .. '" ' ,::,", \ rl JFFICIAL .-.. MINUTES RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE January 12, 198LJ / Members Present :"'/ ., ".:\ . ~... , " Elizabeth S. Haeseker, Assistant City Manager - Chairman Joseph Molnar, Fire Department John Rooks, representing the Public Works Dept. And~ew Onufer, Interim Director, Building Dept. Keich Crawford, Director, Traffic Engineering Dept. Cecil Henderson, Jr., Director, utilities Dept. Paul Harvey, representing the Planning Dept. Ream Wilson, Director, Parks & Recreation Dept. Also Present Carl E. Gilmore, Jennifer Office Complex Gary R. Chiles, Jagger Buzbee Co. Tom Radcliffe, Lloveras, Baur & stevens Sandy Lloveras, Lloveras, Baur & Stevens Luis J. Leon, Barbara Leon Sub. Karnl Targal, Peterson, Inc. Edward T. Imparato E. A. Sarker, Biltmore Canst. Co. William o. Hickok, Hickok & Company Pat Rehiser, DeYoung & Assoc. Richard L. Fidler, Post Buckley, Schuh & Jernigan, Inc. Nick Zarra, Post, Buckley, Schuh & Jernigan, Inc. Niall Falloon, British American (Fla.) Prop. & Invest. Corp. Jay Rhodes, Rhodes & Wice, P.A. Janet Laatsch, Recording Secretary, Public Works Dept. ------------------------------------------------------------ The meeting was called to order by Elizabeth S. Haeseker, Chairman, at 10:10 A.M. in the Operations Center Conference Room. 1. Jennifer Office Complex Buildings 4 and 5. (Allan B. Davis, Trustee) . FINAL SITE PLAN Joseph Molnar - Commented that an additional hydrant would have ,to be added to the complex, and the water lines would have to be looped. John Rooks - See written comments (Attachment 1). 'Andrew cnufer - Questioned if the three blocks on the lef.t of the 'plan were all one building Mr. Gilmore stated it would be one building. Mr. Dnufer presented Mr. Gilmore with written instructions stating what is required by the Building Dept. in the way of a submittal for application of permit. Keith Crawford - Questioned the 12' width of the cuI de sac with the planter ~nd whether there would be room for a garbage truck to " 1. RDC 1/12/84 . . ' , ,.... ,~ for ~......--....., J " , , " "--- . .... \ ..-; MOTION: . ': .-.. ~ manuvcr' La make garbogo pick ups. Mr. Gilmore stated that there would not bo gnt~bogo pick ups in that area, as there is a dumpster In the front, nnd omorgenoy vehicles would not go around the outer loop. Mr. Crawford questioned if the same person owned the property on tho str~ooE and on tho north and south, 1 n regard to arranging for sidewalks. Mt~. Gilmore stated that the Rutland Bank owns its site, and the balanco of tho property is still owned by the same land trust that owns all of it, including that property shown. It has not been platted. Mr~. Crawford stated that he felt it would be appropriate -~e-~~-~~~8R-~ the developer to put the sidwalk inJ.~eu~~ -l:i p- #5 2-: 00 r" w.Hrh - flf}- -agreemefl{,. -t,hey- -wi i -1- -ge-t.- -t-l<te--$-&52-;.oo-ea-o<<-,:- The Rutland Bank would have to be handled as a separate owner. Sidewalks muat be pr'ovided on U.S. Hwy. 19 prior to iSSUing Certificates of Occupancy on these buildings. Carl Gilmore stated that he would need a letter' to the Allen B. Davis, Trustee, (owner of the property) to get thIs started. Cecil Henderson - See written comments (Attachment 2). Discussion ensued with Mr. Gilmore regarding the space provided in the parking lot for garbage pick up. Mr. Henderson stated he would not approve the plan unless the garbage truck can get in and out. Mr. Gilmore stated he would have to know what is to be required, if different from what is shown on the plan. Paula Harvey - Stated that the height of the building (in feet) should be indicated on the site plan. Mr. Gilmore stated that the he ight of the bui Id ing is approx ima tel y 12 - 13', "and 1 ess than the 30' feet allowed by the zoning requirement. Paula Haryey also stated the need to identify specific loading spaces on the site plan. There will be one required for Bldg. #4 and Bldg. #5 for service vehicles to unload (separate from the parking stalls). Mrs. Harvey noted the condition for impermeable coverage on these two sites--the figures are different on the plans from Bldg. #3. These figures need to agree. Mr. Gilmore stated that they had changed Bldg. #4 slightly in the final evaluation, and the numbers that are shown for the total area in Bldg. #4 are correct, and that he would change those for Bldg. #5. Mrs. Harvey further stated that the landscaped areas will need to be shown and the materials identified on the site plan or on a separate sheet. This Preliminary Site Plan was submitted prior to the Reoreation Ordinances. Ream Wilson - See written comments (Attachment 3). See written comments from City Forester (Attachment 4). Mr. Gilmore discussed the high-lighted plan with Mr. Wilson. Discussion ensued regarding the garbage truck turn-around. Mr. Gilmore stated he had no objection to making it a goo and a deeper turn, and also questioned if the garbage truck could come in from the side of the hammerhead if that would be acceptable, as there is an extra parking space according to the plan. Mr. Henderson agreed that would be acceptable and probably would be the best way it could be handled as it brings the dumpster in close to the buildings it serves. Paula Harvey moved to recommend approval of the Final Site Plan based upon findings of this Committee for the plans to conform with gUidelines for site plan review subject to the following changes to be 2. ROC 1/12/84 made on the plan prior to certification: That building heights be shown in feet; That loading spaoes be identified In BuIlding Area 4 and Building Area 5; B. 1. Sidewalks be provided on U.S. Hwy. 19 prior to the issuance of ' a Certificate of Occupancy on Building Areas 4 and 5; 2. That the developer work with the City Forester to preserve and replace trees as required by the code; and . ' "~ ,~ A. l. 2. 3. " 11 . 5. 6. \" .' , , . ' . ' ~ '~, .:. ~ ~, . . ,; ,,: . ::' , ';-.... '.';"1'---;:"1 ~< ~i' :< ~ ~'i/. e", ',' . ~.;\J.:. : .~ '\.~'I..'.:I ,> fJ.. " :i::';",;", ;,; '" . : -.- ~ , P t ," 1 ','". ". ~~/..:. '. " . , I,' ."'. '. II r'""") ..-.... I 1 That the conflIot between impervious area show a total area be tween 3 I ' I~ I and 5 wou}.~ be correc ted to agree with' each other; nnd That a fire hydrant be added to Building Area 4; That water lines be moved as required by the Fire Marshal and utilities Department; That dumpster locations be approved by the Sanitation Superin- tendent of the Utilities Department; And that the followlng(conditions be noted on the plan as certified: 3. That the requisite initial building permit be secured within six months of the City Manager's approval and the project , completed within two years from the date of issuance of the initial building permit. The motion was seconded by John Rooks. .~T::;":'I+ c.'" Discussion ensued regarding Mr. Gilmore's questions regarding the looping of the water lines. < .' .". .~ ~ ... '" ',~;':" . c ' c I .' ' i~': ;";..' The Motion was carried unanimously. ~,~ " . ;r'.:- . " )~~. ,: '. ~! . , +'. . 2. ,.' I"; ." "' , '. " [,:.."':. \'.":" ' . I . ~ f .~. . . . f"' . 't'.; ~. .,':". ~ FINAL SITE PLAN . ~ . ", ' .', . ~ ~ . i.... , ' . " ' ,. ~~,J,"~ :-:. "," 0 .~, ,T. t..... ... . -'"," ," ,~;::, '.'<.:/, ~. j ".. . l~::"";"..: , ., 0 "..' Joseph Molnar - No comments. John Rooks - See written comments (Attachment 5). ~Additional comment - Town Place, adjoining the other side of Florida Power right-of-way is going to put their sewer across the road. :Mr. Lloveras stated that they have met with the Town Place people and 'Post, Buckley, Schuh & Jernigari"and will combine and have one crossing. and Jagger has agreed with Uniflex to share on a 50-50 basis that ,'"",, ,'. ~ ,I . > . .'f ~ t.>,; '0 .'..l':. . ;,': '>.~. . 3. ; RDC 1/12/84 , . . L' ~ ,>. ~.. ~ c . . :'. .: -. .,: ;: .' \ ~.; . ' . ,.f ..: j. . . ~ .' '. , . I .' " : .' ' ~ ' ; . . 11.. ' ' .' '. " . 1 ... . ,,', '.: '" i . . .. :.,' \:;,.~ ;:.e." ...:. , '\:'., ' : :~: : " ' .i' "." " '. 't'. . 'j'- . ::f:MOTION: . D::,'>~z> ~,', >/;iJ 1:1 ~T . : < :,r." e :.. 'j-;..',' < ' ....;.. ., I.,. . ,~ ,.......,,, crossing, nnd an ngPtHlmonl 10 llOlns wor'kcd ouL. A copy o,f that agreement will bo givon Lo PubJio Worku Dept. There will be only ohe crossing under tho rnJlrond, Andrew Onufer - Submitlod written instructions to Mr. Lloveras stating what is required by the Building Dept. for submittal for application of permil and plnn roview. Keith Crawford - Questioned if they understood about the sidewalks, as nothing was shown on the slte plan. Mrs. Haeseker stated that ff there were no sidewalks, there would be no Certificate of Occupancy; but if they feel they oan get a sIdewalk waiver in accordance with the ordinance, they would have to apply with the construction permits. Mr. Lloveras stated that they had thought the property was County (on Northeast Coachman Road) and had applied to the County for a waiver,' and they denied this also. There is a need to show the sidewalk on the plan. Cecil Henderson See written comments (Attachment 6). Paula Harvey - No comments. Ream Wilson - See written comments (Attachment 7). See written comments from City Forester (Attachment 8). Paula Harvey moved to recommend approval of the Final Site Plan SUbject to the following: 1. That sidewalks be shown on the site plan along Northeast Coachman Road; 2. That easements be provided over the water mains up to and including the meters and hydrants; 3. That ingress/egress easements be provided; and 4 . That specifications for the water distribution system meet City standards. The Motion was seconded by Cecil Henderson! The Motion was carried unanimously. --------~-----------~--~------------------------------------ 'I ~. Barbara Leon Subidivision (one lot). PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT, , Joseph Molnar - No comments. John Rooks - No Comments. Andrew Dnufer - No comments. Keith Crawford - No comments. . . ,~ r , f/'~'-" e Cecil Henderson - Utilities Dept. has carefully reviewed the Barbara Leon Subdivision and finds that' it meets all the standards required. Paula Harver - No comment regarding the sub-division plat itself. but advised the architect that nine copies of the plat must be submitted to the Planning Dept. for the Planning and Zoning Board to review next week (Tuesday). I, , , " " " I . Ream Wilson - No comments on the plat. John Rooks moved to recommend approval of the subdivision plat. The motion was seconded by Cecil Henderson. The motion was approved unanimously. " MOTION: ------------------------------------------------------------ ,', 4 . Professional Office, located on South side of a roximatel 200 ft. West of S. Ft. Harrison Continued from 11/231 3 .\ >, :" REVISED FINAL SITE PLAN ;'.i , . Joseph Molnar - No comments, John Rooks - See written comments (Attachment 9). ': ';" /.:":" I' . . ( ;~~,.; " {'::':'" ,::;~) .' ' :. ~ '". :1:' .' , ' .:,' ',Andrew Dnufer - Submitted the written instructions (Plan,Review Report) from the BUilding Dept. stating what is required for submittal for' application for permit. " " " , 1 '." \, '. ..', " Keith Crawford - Stated his concern that basically the whole public parking area is in turf block. It is hard to stripe, and he also 'questioned whether it would be a dust-free surface. Mr. Targal stated that they could ,pave the entire lot, if additional retention wasn't necessary. John Rooks stated that they are using turf block for lessening the detention impact. Mr. Targal further stated that because of the trees in the area, the turf block would leave more air holes for the roots. Keith Crawford questioned what the maximum ,amount of turf block that should be provided, and what constitutes dust-free parking, and how curb stops would anchor into turf block, Discussion ensued regarding turf block for parking lot, as opposed to paving; and, also, the one-way aisles and width of the driveways. There arel22 parking spaces required, and that would imply a lot of traffic is expected in that area. John Rooks stated that they still need to meet the stormwater criteria and that something might be worked out with a Payment In Lieu Of, which is an amount of money per sq. f~. associated with the area of the detention pond and is base9 on the square foot price of'the property. Cecil Henderson - See written comments (Attachment 10). ~: . ~ , ". . : ~~c;~i ;' . . "T' , -, 'I , , ...e.. ~. L . " ; .' ~ ; " ~ ',< ;,.. I,' .",--'" "'J t:_< .: , ,:,,., . ~:c.. . .' <:;< ,,\' ' 1 . ~,. " ~".< I ''//:. " r!:~:': . ~ >.}.::.. ;>":> iD:..:;,,~~::, :.:,:, ;: ,:, '", 5 . RDC 1/12/84 . . ...--.\ ~-. , . I :'-- Cecil Henderson - Utilities Dept. has carefully reviewed the Barbara Leon Subdivision and finds that it meets all the standards required. Paula Harvey - No comment regarding the sub-division plat itself, but advised the architect that nine copies of the plat must be submitted to the Planning Dept. for the Planning and Zoning Board to review next week (Tuesday). " Ream Wilson - No comments on the plat. ."MOTION: John Rooks moved to recommend approval of the subdivision plat. The motion was seconded by Cecil Henderson. The motion was approved unanimously. ----------------------------------------------~-------------- 4. Corbett Corbett Avenue. Professional Office, located on South side of a roximatel 200 ft. West of S. Ft. Harrison Continued from 11/23/ 3 REVISED FINAL SITE PLAN :~;, r-- : " '.0:, . ~ . c .. . .- ' ,;.; .. ';' ~ ' Joseph Molnar - No comments. John Rooks - See written comments (Attachment 9). . , t.,", : ~.; " ~:' \ ; :: Andrew Onufer - Submitted the written instructions (Plan Review Report) from the Building Dept. stating what is required for submittal for application for permit. Keith Crawford - Stated his concern that basically the whole public p~rking area is in turf block. It is hard to stripe, and he also 'questioned whether it would be a dust-free surface. Mr. Targal stated,that they could pave the entire lot, if additional retention wasn't necessary. John Rooks stated that they are using turf block for lessening the 'detention impact. Mr. Targal further stated that because of the trees in the area, the turf block would leave more air holes for the roots. Keith Crawford questioned what the maximum amount of turf block that should be provided, and what constitutes dust-free parking, and how curb stops would anchor into turf block. .:. ' . ~..;!. :..~ '~"", - i"' . ::. ~ <', "/ .: :, . :..\ '," " , ~ , j~';l '. '. 1 t, . . ~ .. I ..~ ,', . ,'. ,~;::~:j . {: . '1 ., Discussion ensued regarding turf 'block for parking lot, as opposed to paving; and, also, the one-way aisles and width of the driveways. There;are 122 parking spaces required, and that would imply a lot of traffic is expected in that area. John Rooks stated that they still need to meet the stormwater criteria and that something might be worked out with a Payment In Lieu Of, which is an amount of money per sq. ft. associated with the area of the detention pond and is based on the square foot price of the property. Ceell Henderson - See written comments (Attachment 10). ~,c ..~, ,.,..J. (' ' J:.' > L ~?: '-1-': 5. RDC 1/12/84 . ' ,-.." .........., . , ~ Paula Harvey - Stated the following comments: (1) The parking calculations shown on the site plan matches what was given In a letter, but the terminology used on the site plan for identIfying the requirements for parking are not the same. What is put on the site plan should be exactly what is on the second page. (2)Landscap- ing should be shown on the plan--particularly, as required by code along Corbett St. (3) The impermeable coverage stated in the letter is 72.27%, but the plan shows 78%--a correction is needed. (4) Site plan cannot be approved until the vacation Is completed by the City of Belleair of B Street. (5) Conoerned with the turf block parking, and prefer that it be paved. (6) Also concerned about the internal traffio circulation. (7) Discussed additional information on the CIS which was approved the last time this was brought up to the RDC Committee. The CIS was approved with conditions that certain statements or pages be clarified, changed, etc. Some of those have been addressed, other have not. There are additional things that need to be amended to the Community Impact'Statement in order for it to be approved. Mrs. Harvey stated she would provide them with a copy of the RDC Committee minutes so they will know which things need to be changed. Ream Wilson - Stated that one of the comments that was left off the CIS that was supposed to be amended was the fact that the application was filed prior to the new ordinance on open space assessments, and the project is, therefore, exempt from open space assessments under the new ordinanoe. The site plan application was submitted sometime back in June. ,,' I' :,--:~ '.', .~.~; See written oomments from City Forester (Attachment 11). Discussion ensued - Keith Crawford commented that the trees should be exactly where they are shown on the ~lans~ with exact dimensions. Traffic Engineering Dept. will not a~B~ the Certificate of Occupancy unless it is the same as this plan. Mr. Targal stated that the locations are based on a survey. Mrs. Haeseker stated that all construction must be done in accordance with this plan. PauaHarvey, commented that she would have a problem in recommending approval of the plan because the traffic doesn't work, not sure of the parking, (whether this should be paved and, if paved, there may be a problem with detention), and there are too many questions unanswered. Mrs. Haeseker also stated she was reluctant to proceed further, as there aren't answers to all the CIS items. ',' MOTION: Joe Molnar moved to recommend that the Revised Final Site Plan for Corbett Sereet Professional Office be continued to a future date. The motion was seconded by John Rooks. '..",:) ,,' , ., ," Ie. " Discussion ensued on the Motion: Mr. Targal'stated they could pave the parking lot and pay for the extra that would eliminate the turf problem. He did not feel that these things should keep them from ,getting approval of the site plan. Mrs. Haeseker stated she felt the item needed to be continued. Motion for Revised Site Plan to be continued was approved unanimously. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 6. RDC . , . .--.. 5. Hercules A artments located on West side of Hercules Avenue ~ North of Sunset Point Road. Bay Development Group .' FINAL SITE PLAN PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN Mrs. Haeseker stated there would be discussion on both items, with two motions at the end of the discussion. Joe Molnar - No comments on either item. Andrew Dnufer - No comment. , ' Keith Crawford - Stated he had no real objection to the plan, but was curious about why a 35' wide manuvering space was provided at the main entrance, and the strange parking layout. Mr. Hehiser stated that Mr. DeYoung had felt that in the past the radius' had not been enough and did not allow for enough speed to exit the roadway at a high enough speed. Mr. Crawford stated that the National Committee on Driveway Designs for Traffic Engineers Organization states only 15'. City ordinance says that the opening where it meets the pavement of the road be only 40'. He felt the 35' shown would be too wide, as the cars would be coming out 2 - 3 abreast. Ceciil Henderson - See written comments for Final Site Plan (Attach- ment 12). Discussion ensued on looping of the water lines. Mr. Henderson explained what is involved in looping the water lines, and the reason why looping of lines is required. Mr. Hickok questioned where they would be required to connect if the easement to the adjoining property was not obtained, making it feasible to connect to this system. Mr. Henderson stated it would be necessary to reconnect back into the water s~stem, but was confident the easement would be obtained. Paula Harvey - Stated she had noticed the ,name of the project was taken off the site plan,(l)A name is needed for the Preliminary Plat. Mr. Hickok stated that there are two different parties involved-- one with the plat, and one with the development of the project. The working name is Hercules Apartments. (2) The height of the buildings be shown in feet. (3) Suggested they show the tennis courts& swimming pools as actual proposed structures rather than just dash lines, Mr. Hickok stated these areas were not included in the drainage count and they will remove them. (4) Questioned the permeable coverage fig~re requirement which states that only 30% of the site is going to be ' covered, when it appears that more than 30% of the site is going to be covered. (5) Landscaping needs to be shown. (6) Requirement to show the proposed location of the identification or entrance sign. (7) Planning Dept. will need nine copies of the Preliminary Plat by the morning of Jan. 13th. :. ~ , , - ~', I : '/", " , :~'\ " } .. ...../ \, ", ~ \. " J, ;.' > ...;'-"" ',.'.J. Ream Wilson - See written comments for Final Site Plan and Preliminary Subdivision Plat. (Attachments 13 and 13A). See written comments from City Forester on Final Site Plan and Preliminary Subdivision Plat (Attachment 14). ' ,John Rooks - See written comments for Final Site Plan and Preliminary Subdivision Plat (Attachment 15). Discussion ensued regarding the annexation of 20' of property. Mr. Hickok stated they are aware ,that ',';, .....l' " ,,' I .~ . " .. ~.' '. '. >'? '- ~'.:/~;;~~;"\1"f[c"l:{c1;;:;1'~~Iil;,,{~(~i)::;'fj:::;: ", ( ,f ,,,, .. , .. '.' A "..' " " .,; ,'..... "'1 "," ,,,,,', ,/ '} , " ; , " .... ,'::., · '.".':::;)!i:i,::(:,;i;~(!1,i~}!~!~~;'~f:\f;:r-r(:;'~:'j,::,:'..::. .:," , f' '", I " ," , I" '" ' .. . I.. ,', ' , J n " ,,', .. (,. ". i:',., ;:;!:':;;'i;,.;:1',;'):j,,}j;':\":':0,;.g;,';:(~}'(~~:,'i,'; .~. . . :';: ..., . ......~;; :,,'~I:f.:',:\':'~V,),\;;,:=!::::,',:'::!:'::':'/)/":'" I :j. ,J.':, ", ',' ;', "1"" ., .+'1 . ,~...." . ...., .... ~ Il:~ J,;' , .. ~ '" . ,c : ~ ~ I. "'... ':,~: ,":;';: ~ :' :':' >:,' :,'~'?~;: ~":": , l" ',.' 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There appears to have been a mistake made, and he questioned what sort of mechanism decides the repetition for annexation to correct this. The present owner believes it had been annexed, as the revised survey was submitted on April 27, 1973, prior to the annexation showing the correct legal description; however, the 20' was left off. The petition shows the correct legal description. The ordinance itself that annexed the property did not include the 20', but there is informa- tion in the file that would support the fact that that was in error. Discussion ensued regarding the entrance width. Mr. Rehiser stated he would like to adjust the radius to 15' and 25' instead of both 20'. Mr. Crawford felt that he would recommend going with the National Organization's recommendation of 15'. Paula Harvey moved to recommend approval of the Preliminary Plat for Hercules Apartments. The motion was seconded by John Rooks. The motion was approved unanimously. Paula Harvey moved to recommend approval of the Final Site Plan for Hercules Apartments based upon a finding of this Committee that the plan conforms with the design guidelines for site plan review subject to the following changes to be made on the plan prior to certification: 1. Provide a name on the site plan; 2. That the pool and tennis court be deleted from the plan--or if they are to be included, to show the results in the coverage requirement calculations; 3. That the building height be shown in feet; 4. That a calculation for building coverage be shown on the site plan; 5.' That landscaping be shown on the site plan; 6. That the proposed location of an identification sign, or '\ entrance sign, be shown; 7. ,That the radius on the entrance drive be reduced to 20 feet; 8. That the water system be looped as required by the utilities Dept. 9. , That one dumpster be deleted; That the back-up spaces at the north and south end of the parking lot be widened to 24 ft.; " That the conditions be noted on the site plan and certified to include payment of open space and recreation land fees prior to certification of the final site plan; and, 10. 11. . ~ 'I 8. RDC 1/12/84 ,I' ,I, ~~1~:,I~\:Y,\:"'(";':~~":, "':;,':',.,~;\,~t}:f~ "1' .',." ~ ~t/".>' :','..,' :'",::\:~;; ~~.>>: <~':.~ I-.~. ,- " 12. That the requisite initial building permits be issued within six months from the date of the City Manager's approval of the final site plan and that the project be completed within two years from the date of issuance of the initial building permit. The motion was seconded by John Rooks. The motion was approved unanimously. -----~--~--------------------------------------------------- 5. GeIger/Ciccotti Parcel, located on West side of McMullen-Booth Road, approximately 140 ft. South of Tanglewood Drive. COMMUNITY IMPACT STATEMENT PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT Mrs. Haeseker stated the Community Impact Statement would be discussed first. Joseph Molnar - No comments. Andrew Onurer - No comments. I., !::"O ~ ;t . . . Keith Crawford - No comments. , , . ., , Cecil Henderson - See written comments (Attachment 17). Paula Harvey - Stated the following comments: (1) Provide a letter of ,compliance from the property owners that states that they will actually do on the property what they say they will do on the Community , Impact Statement, and (2) they need to provide the Resource Development Committee with the market analysis information required for the CIS prior to its going before the City Commission for approval. Ream Wilson - See written comments (Attachment 18). , Paul~ Harvel recommended approval of the Community Impact Statement for the Geiger/Ciccotti Parcel subject to the submission of a letter of,compliance of the market analysis, and that the concerns of the Public Works Department regarding filling in of the existing ditch be addressed. ;,,:,MOTION: Motion was seconded by Ream Wilson. Motion was approved unanimously. . , .' '. }'~,:',:~ ;'r:,,'~ ~~'." . ~., ". . r t.' . )/;..~.:,'c . ~.. ,.... '. ,....',... . rc,',:', !:fii-;:,C:.'>::;'j', "'The following discussion followed on the Preliminary Subdivision Plat for the Geiger/Ciccotti Parcel. Joseph Molnar - No comment on Preliminary Plat, but would' like to talk 'to them before they submit the Final Site Plan. John Rooks - See written comments (Attachment 16). . Mrs. Haeseker questioned who owns the retention area. Mr. Rooks 9. RDC 1/12/84 . , "........, ...~....... , ' ~ stated those will be platted as part of Lot 22 and 23 on the .76; and, as far as the .72, it will be platted as part of Lot 32 and 31. Andrew Onufer - No comments. Keith Crawford - Commented that typically, left turn lanes be pro- vided in the middle lane of the street (head-on to each other), but this street goes across that area for a mile and a half. It's a major east-west street through the whole north end of Countryside, so it means a heavy left-turn movement that would have to be provided for and would conflict with the need for a turn lane at another entrance. If the other street could be brought out further up instead, there is a very light movement and it would provide for a better turning movement. Cecil Henderson - See written comments (Attachment 17). '8 Paula Harvey - Commented (1) Fence and landscape plan be required for those lots that back onto Landmark'Drive and McMullen-Booth Road, (2) all structures on those lots running on McMullen-Booth Road will be required to be 50 ft. from the right-of-way (that is required by the County), (3) the same concern that Traffic Engineering had about 'relocating the drive and be realigned with Meadow Wood Drive, (4) the number of lots on the plat (the initial zoning that the property owner applied for was a Residential Planned Development zoning). It was pointed out to the City Commission that RPD zoning is necessary for a single family subdivision. They are doing it because this particular piece of property is going to have to be reviewed by the County Planning Council and the Board of County Commissioners will have to transfer jurisdiction. They have a policy that the limit on density along this part of McMullen-Booth Road be 2 1/2 units per acre, and that is what they were trying to accomplish with the RPD3. This par- ticular plat,as it is drawn here, has a density that is in an area the Board of County Commissioners can approve, but they are applying for an RS75 zoning, and that zoning district, if this plat were not approved, would allow them to build at a greater density. In summary, they are taking a risk by applying for the RS75 zoning in hopes that we can assist them in convincing the Board of County Commissioners that annexa- tion of this property in Clearwater should be done in this category. In line with the Public Works Dept. comments just given, the ability to develop the area along the ditch--it is going to be our recommenda- tion that, in fact, it is to the developer's benefit to apply for the RSlOO zoni.ng, reduce the number of lots on the property to accommodate the problems there will be with drainage in the area along that ditch, and possibly eliminate any problem in going to the County for/juris- diction. transfer of !,' '0: t;. ,,:) Ream Wilson - See written comments (Attachment 18) regarding Open Space Assessments. See written comments by City Forester (Attachment 19~ Discussion ensued on the stream channel. Mr. Fidler stated he had spoken with ChriS Cowles and the developer of the project with regards to the existing stream channel. Mr. Fidler also stated they had attempted twice to meet with Florida D.E.R. at the site. Mrs. Haeseker stated that no building permits would be allowed to be issued prior to the recording of the plat. : ( 'j'" :~. : ~,'. '.'. ," 10. RDC 1/12/84 , , ~ \ r"'. , ) MOTION: Joseph Molnar - Commented (1) Two more hydrants must be added within the site, and, (2) the water system must be looped. Mr. Fidler stated that the County is not permitting direct connection to the 48"~ anymore, and informed them they will have to make a connection with the existing line in Tanglewood and south through the other Geiger parcel in conjunction with that property project to a proposed subdivision south of that tract. We have been informed that the connection will not be as shown, and it will be looped. John Rooks moved to recommend that the Preliminary Subdivision Plat for the Geiger/Ciccotti Parcel be continued to a future date. Paula Harvey seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously. ,) \ .-" ---------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Regency Townhouse Village (Oaks of Northwood--Phase II), located on South side of Enterprise Road, on South side of Oaks of Northwood. ' PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT ....[ (" Joseph Molnar - No comments. , , :\:':',C:'\ ><'J .," . John Rooks - Commented that the Lake Chatauqua area of 100' - 200' should be put on the site plan when finalized. It would be like a setback when put on the plat. ~','" :,o Andrew Dnufer - No comments. ", ",.1. 't.. t'}:' Keith Crawford - Questioned what kind of plan was proposed. Mr. Zarra explained that they are selling the townhouses with a bit of property in the front and property in the back--it is attached units, all private. Roadways will not be dedicated to the City. Ingress/egress is through th~ Oaks of Northwood, Phase II. There is a written, documented agreement to this effect. Discussion ensued on the main accesses. Cecil Henderson - No comments. " , '.' l Paula Harvey - Stated the following comments: (1) That a variance to the subdivision regulations reqUiring the lots to be served by a public or private street which meets City standards be requested, (2) There is a one-lot subdivision with the name of Regency--they may , wan t 'to cons ider a d i fferen t name, (3) The access easements shown on the plat do not appear to match the curvature of the road shown on the site plan. Mr. Zarra commented that in order' to get the setbacks on the lots they had to adjust the ingress/egress arrangement out of the roadways--it is now less curving, and makes a better situation. (4) The code requires townhouses to have two parking spaces per unit-- an additional 15 spaces are needed. (5) The second ordinance reading on the RPD site plan is scheduled for February 2nd. " , ...... ,', ":l " " ,-...... , , \ ; " '}' :. '~./' . ' Discussion ensued on the variance procedure. Jon Rooks ~RQ~~W1~~ - Made one additional comment that the common areas need Ream Wilson - see Attachments 20 & 21 for comments. . , .~~.'~.: '. ,"' "'. \ 11. RDC 1/12/84 . ' ,"""""'" "........" I , MOTION: to be tied to these lots so that they Cannot be separate at a later date. Mr. Zarra stated that this gets dedicated to an association and the association has complete responsibility for the maintenance, of that common area--the associations in the State of Florida are legal entities that have the power to do that and are responsible for t hat . A ,l.ao.,. - s.e.e. - A t.t.a.o Rme.n.t. a - .2.0. -aR.d. ..;ll ~ .f...o.r- _ ca.mme o.t.s._ Paula Harvey recommended approval of the Preliminary Subdivision Plat sUbject to the following: 1. That a variance of the subdivision regulations requiring the lots to be served by a public or private street which meets City standards be requested; '~ ! ' ,. , 1" 2. That building separation and access easements shown on the plat agree with the final site planj 3. That two parking spaces as required by code be provided for each individual platted townhouse lot and the appropriate adjust- ment made to the final site plan; 4. That the common area will be legally tied to the individual town- house property owners; and i. " ' 5. Subject to the final plat being recorded within six months from the date of approval by the City Commission of the Preliminary Plat; and B 6. That the agreement for Tract~, Northwood, regarding setbacks be reflected on the Preliminary Plat. The Motion was seconded by John Rooks. The Motion was approved unanimously. A Discussion ensued regarding taxing of the p~operties (individual units)., --------------------------------------------------~----------- "'c' 8. Rhodes and Wice Funeral Home, located on West side of Belcher Road, approximately 600 ft. North of Northeast Coachman Road (Rhodes/Wice) FINAL SITE PLAN PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT '~-\ ..~ Both the Final 'Site Plan and Preliminary Subdivision Plat will be discussed together. Joseph Molnar - No comment on the Preliminary Subdivision Plat. One question on the Final Site Plan - The required fire hydrant to be within 300 ft. of the building is not shown on the Final Site Plan. John Rooks - No comments on the Final Site Plan. See written comments on Preliminary Subdivision Plat (Attachment 22). . \ , ,.-...., r-. Andrew Dnufer - No comments. ,., Cecil Henderson - No Comments on Preliminary Subdivision Plat. See written comments on Final Site Plan (Attachment 23). Paula Harve~ - Made the following comments on the Preliminary Subdivision Plat: (1) Nine more copies of the plat are required by tomorrow (1/13/84); (2) questioned why the spaces at the rear of the bUilding were angled, and whether it was a one-way street; Mr. Rhodes stated it will be one-way and it will be easier to get in and out. (3)Questioned if there were any plans for,the open area to the south. Mr. Rhodes stated there was no final decision--his partner is against using it for anything but a park, but Mr. Rhodes would favor something compatible. Mrs. Harvey stated that the site plan needs to be labeled fIOpen Area". Ream Wilson - See written comments for Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Final Site Plan (Attachment 24). Mr. Wilson questioned where the actual property line was, and Mr. Rhodes stated they are using all of Lot I on the replat. Mr. Rhodes then questioned the assessment, and Mr. Wilson explained that any site plan that had been filed before July 7, 1983, were exempt. Mr. Rhodes stated they missed the date, through no fault of theirs, and feels that the problem was within the City. Mr. Wilson stated that the ordinance does not provide for a waiver. . '.:"'.. "" \ q .' See written comments from City Forester on Preliminary Site Plan (Attachment 25)., ; :, MOTION: ' Mr. Crawford stated he was concerned as to where the real property line is, and that the streets are offset and questioned the parking areas shown. Mr. Rhodes stated that it is a unique parking plan, as several concepts are used for funeral parking and they have two or three plans. Paula Harvey moved to recommend approval of the Preliminary Subdivision Plat for Rhodes and Wice Funeral Home. . '/ The motion was seconded by Cecil Henderson. ',,,, The motion was approved unanimously. :, MOTION: " Paula Harvey moved to recommend approval of the Final Site Plan based upon a finding of this Committee that the plan conforms with the design guidelines for site plan review subject to the fOllowing changes to be made on the plan prior to certification: '. " 1. Location of the fire hydrant within 300 feet of the building be shown; \,: .';" 2. That driveways be no closer than 5 feet to the property line; 3. That the drives be realigned as required by the Traffic Engineer; 4. That conditions be noted on the plan for certification to include payment of open ~lpace fees prior to certification of the final site plan; and :;;'c ~I' . ..',T. ~~: . :.; RDC 1/12/84 I ,..' , J . '" ' " ' . '[, ~ t , ,", . ' ... , , . .. , " l(,~, , ~,;' '., ,I';;,' :', ~, · 4 'i< · ~;~,':: <,!.i. .<j:,-,',:' : ' h',<", .' '~' . I:".'" " "t \~I.. <' " "~'I;. 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