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11/23/1983 ~ ,..--. , Official ~ City of Clearwater, Florida RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MINUTES November 23, 1983 Membars Present Joseph Molnar, Fire Harshal William E. Tripp, Acting Building Director Dave Healey, Planning Director John Rooks, Representing Public Works Department Claude Howell, Representing Utilities Department Don Meeriane, Representing Traffic Engineering Department Ream Wilson, Parks and Recreation Director j // /,......... Members not Present Elizabeth S. Haeseker, Chairman /'/ /r Other Present William Kline (Pastor, Trinity Baptist ChUl..ch--Gymnatorium Building) Charles Johnson, Architect, Trinity Baptist Church Gymnatorium Harold R. Johnson, Engineer, Trinity Baptist Church Gymoatorium Kami Targal, P.E., Corbett Street Professional Office Richard Parker, Biltmore Construction, Corbett Street Professional Office Patricia Phillips, Recording Secretary The meeting was called to order at 10:05 a.m. in the Operations Center Conference Room by Joesph Molnar, Acting' Chairman. , "~l , '....-... Hr. Tripp moved to approve the Minutes of September 22, 1983, as written. Mr. Howell seconded the motion, which passed. ,ITEM 11 - Trinity Baptist Church Gymnatorium BuildinB, located Northeast Coachman and Belcher Roads. FINAL SITE PLAN Fire Department - No comments. Building Department - Mr. Tripp said that sidewalks should be shown on the public right-of-way. (See "Discussion" on motion for the Final Site Plan) Planning Department - Mr. Healey's comments were (a) in order to calculate the number of parking spaces required, two calculations would be needed --the seating capacity and the auditorium floor area. Only the seating capacity was given. '!he way the parking is calculated for chu'I'ch use depends on whichever is greater, (b) regarding parking, there is a note 00 the plan to the effect that both buildings would not be in use simultaneously with respect to the seating.capacity. The Building Department would need to determine if this was acceptable., (c) setback dimension on Sharkey Road frontage, 35', needed to be referenced to the property line, (d) adequate loading spaces should be indicated, (e) where off street parking was shown as other than' asphalt surface, that surface treatment requires approval by the City Engineer. Traffic Engineering - Mr. Meerians said dimensions should be labeled as far as what the parking stalls would be--1Jl1nimum is 9' x 19'. Also, question about bus stalls and allowing enough room for buses to back out. 1- ~ ;..,~ " I , .-.....-' ,:) Utilities Dep8rtmen~Mr. Howell said the gymnatoriuv-~u11ding requires a separate water metei ld this should be no problem as ae water main went to Sharkey Road and meter could be set off that line. Also, natural g80 was available for the building and would save money on hot water for showers, etc. Public Works Department - Mr. Rooks distributed written comments -Attachment 11. Comments about details of retention area to be submitted at time of finaY-construction, approved erosion and siltation control methods required and must be shown on construction plan. Mr. Rooks also asked if the ROW for Sharkey Road was dedicated and the architect said it had been. Parks and Recreation - Mr. Wilson distributed an Open Space Fee Impact form to developers. Looking at the site plan, Mr. Wilson said the new gymnatorium added 21,168 sq. ft., or more than 50% of the existing floor area on the property and would be subject to the Open Space feo--2% of the net land area of the site. Based on that, the assessment would be 14,666 sq. ft. at at value of $.48 sq. ft. based on the appraised value. He stated that on the application for site plan, the just value of ~350,OOO was shown. If this was the value established by the County Tax Appraiser, then a copy of the Tax Appraiserts document would be required. If this 'valuation is correct, the value of 2% of the net land area would be $7,039.68. Comments from the City Forester were that Tree Permits would be required for any trees to be removed prior to Building Permit issue. MOTION: Trinity Baptist Church Gymmatorium - Final Site Plan - Dave Healey moved that the Final Site Plan for the Trinity Baptist Church addition of the Gymnatorium Building be approved, having determined that the Fio.al Site Plan is in conformity with the Site Plan Review Ordinance, subject to the following conditions. A. Changes to be made to that final site plan prior to its certification. 1. Additional information relative to the area of the auditorium for the purpose of determining parking requirements be added. 2. That the setback dimension from Sharkey Road be adjusted to reflect its relationship to the property line. 3. That the required off street loading spaces be shown. 4. That the required sidewalk areas be designated. , , 5. That the note regarding existing retention simply be expanded to say existing and proposed retention area. B. Those items to be conditions of the approved Final Site Plan. 1. That the Open Space Assessment payment be made. 2. Approval, of the Public Works Director of the provisions for the non-asphalt surfaced parking area. 3., That the initial Building Permit be obtained within six months from the date of approval and the Certificate of Occupancy be obtained wit~tn two years from the date of issuance of the iniital Building Permit. -2- RDC 11-23-83 i'I"~'~'+":'I:,.I:\.~,I:...",~>:",.:,.,:,'1I:":\"l:'r..(/:I,',,'.1...lr:'...':\..~""~,;'i:-',,'...'::',:,':.... ,,;~.."", . 'I ' " ' ' .. ,,",.'~, """, ," ': ..... '..' ~,'; ': [, t""..... " ,..~i" "I::, ,...-" Motion seconded by Ml tripp. ~, ~ ~- '<~ Discussion - For clarification about the sidewalk requirement, Mr. Hcaley said that the sidewalks should be designated on the plan or a note to the effect that sidewalks would be provided. If the developers wished to seek a waiver, there was a process they could follow at the time of Building Permit, but for plan approval, they needed to show that sidewalks will be provided. Motion voted on and paased unanimously.. ITEM 12 - Corbett Street Professional Office, located South side of Corbett Street approximately 215 ft. West of S. Ft. Harrison Ave. (Ruiz) -- COMMUNITY IMPACT STATEMENT Fire Department - No comment. Building Department - No comment. Planning Department - Mr. Healey said that existing zoning is PSI It should be noted that the building height of 53' would not meet the PS standards but the zoning had been 'amended and had been approved by the Commission with the submission of the preliminary site p]~n. On page 10, the statement concerning park site, to note the date of the preliminary site plan submission relative to the new Open Space requirements. On page 17, an update of the construction schedule should be indicated. .,---. Traffic Engineering - Mr. Meeriano indicated that on page 7, Traffic Control, second sentence indicated no increase in traffic in areas adjacent' to development. For office buildings, the trip generation rate is 12.3 per 1,000 square feet, gross area. Mr. Meerians said that the statement should be revised using the figure of 12.3 from the National Standards. \ J .< . Utilities Department - Mr. Howell presented written comments - Attachment #2 - regarding page 9. The size of the water main should be shown as 8 inches and not 6 inches. Also, there is only one 8 inch main within the Ft. Harrison Ave. right-of-way. Public Works - No comment on C.1.S. " ' Parks & Recreation - Mr. Wilson distributed written comments from the City Forester - Attach1nent 13. Also, on page 10, the application for Site Plan on the project was submitted on May 3, 1983, which was prior to new impact ordinances passed by the City Commission on July 7, 1983. The statement that the project would be exempt from the Open Space ordinance should be included in the C.I.S~ or on an addendum since the Site Plan application was filed prior to'the date of the ordinance. , . " MOTION: - Corbett Street Professional Offices - C.I.S Dave Healey moved for approval of the Community Impact Statement with an addendum to address the following issues. :.~ . ' , ' 1. Correct the zoning on page 5. -3- RDC 11-23-83 ............., I""""~ 2. To reviBe { 'statement concerning the lack'. ,'park dedication requirements or exemption therefrom on page 10. ~ t 3. To expand and complete the statement wit}l respect to economic impact and tax effect on pages 16 and 17. 4. To update the conBtructlon schedule on page 17. 5. To completely re-write to the satisfaction of the Traffic Engineer the statement on traffic impact. 6. Correlate the statement of the water system with the information on the site plan--to correct it per the Utilities Department. 7. To re-write and include the comments in an affirmative statement of compliance with the recommendations of the City Forester. , Motion seconded by Mr. Wilson. Motion voted on and passed unanimously. FINAL SITE PLAN - (Corbett Street Professional Office) Fire Department - No comments. OJ I -- Building Department - No comments. Planning Department - Mr. Healey said the zoning should be PS and not CG. The Planning Department came up with a figure of something in excess of 39,000 square feet for the building area. According to the developer's architect the building area was 41,256 square feet. With the building area, paving, and turf block, it appeared they would have more than 70% impenueable coverage rather than 56%. There was a discrepancy there. The actual building height should be shown on the plan and not that an 80 ft. height was allowed. The parking calculation needed to be recomputed based on the adjusted building area. Also, Mr. Healey had a question about the suitablity of using turf block in the frequent parking area. Mr. Healey also said that the parking area adjacent to Corbett Street should be shown as being landscaped according to code. Traffic Engineering - Mr. Meerians asked about the 25 ft. easment to the City of Belleair. Mr. Targal said it was a general easement for utility purposes. There was a question of the vacation of this easement being finalized by Belleair. Mr. Meerians also asked about the existing access points onto Corbett Street--would they be closed, curb replaced, sodded. Discussion with developers on this and also the new access should be 15' true radius. City code requires that you be a minimum of 5 feet from your property line to your access. The one parking space at the end of the third line was too small. Question about parking underneath the building. Also, they needed to show internal traffic signs on the plan. Mr. Healey said that project identification signs needed to be shown on the final site plan. , ;, o Utilities Department - Mr. Howell distributed written comments Attachment 14 Comments about water su~ply line, dumpster location, easement over the 8" main up to the hydrant, and a gate valve requirement on the fire line West of the fire hydrant. ..,' -4- RDC 11-23-83 .:~. , . , .. r ' '\ . '~ , ' :'.,', "} ",. ,',: ~ . .' ~ ,'., ~ 4 . I" " r . ' I 'i ,: r \ :l~'~ \, ,+ ,'~, ,'. '~ . "~', i.., Publl~ ~~rk~~~rtment- Hr. Rooks distribute~itteD comments - Attachment 15 - Disl Jion about detention areas. Hi .~oks also aoked the developer to provide a detail on the plan showing how the turf block was to be installed. ~ Parks and Recreation - Mr. Wilson read the City Forester's comments on the Site Plan (Attachment '3). MOTION - Corbett Street Professional Office - Final Site Plan - Dave Healey moved to continue consideration of the site plan for the reason that there have been a number of issues identified that need to be changed that would have significant cummulative effect on the layo~t. Motion seconded by Don Meerians. Hr. Healey clarified the motion by identifying various issues of the Planning Department such as parking and permeable surface coverage. Don Meerians' concerns for having more detail showing that parking would work underneath the building, moving the road to make it work adjoining the property on Corbett Street, some utilities need to be done differently, the City Forester had Bome problems with retention as it relates to tree removal, the easement arrangement needed to be confirmed with the City of Belleair, etc. Mr. Healey felt that the developers were trying to to do much on too little space and needed to cut back on the building or acquire more land since it would not be acceptable to him to squeeze things 80 that they lose 30" or 40" Oak trees to accommodate a very compressed retention system. Motion to continue voted on and passed unanimously. ,'"'"' \ , ITEM 13 - DISCUSSION ONLY - Downtown Property Standards Ordinance - Moved to last item and Item IJ4 was next item. ITEM 14 - DISCUSSION ONLY - Request for easement, City of Clearwater Property, Landmark Drive. There was general discussion on this item and the following motion was made. MOTION: Ream Wilson moved that the Committee recommend to Chairman Haeseker that she contact Mr. Bruce Tyndall to set up a meeting to discuss and possibly negotiate access alternatives to his property. They were looking at restrictions at the present time regarding the Eagle's nest, park property to the South, etc. Discussion might also include whether or not the property might be available to expand the public/park open space that the City owns in that area. After further discussion, motion was voted on and passed. At 11:30 a.m. the secretary was excused and Item tJ3 (Downtown Property Standards Ordinance was discussed by the Committee. . 'S ~:) RDC :pp -5- RDC ll-23~83