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10/27/1983 ,,'I' ,:t;, .";,:i':j; , ~ , {. t;'" <, ">:1',. ' ~.t ~ .:, ,. ' ';;"'1' , ." (\' . !,.. . I), 1 ~:. ' ,. ':': ..." , . " . /,. '. .. ','w l ~ .. , . " . ~,>~. ; d, ~:i/-<). ' .~....: .~ I,. ;., ;{\::;~:,:.,:'.',' '", :)C,:-::< () I""""'. , ! orr-ICIAL MINUTES RI1S0URCB DEVELOPMENT COMMITI'liH October 27. 1983 vi Members Present Elizabeth S. Haescker. Assistant City Manager - Chairman Joseph Molnar, Fire Marshal Don Beachler. representing the Public Works Department Bill Tripp, Acting Building Director Ream Wilson, Parks and Recreation Director Cecil Henderson, Utilities Director Keith Crawford. Traffic Engineering Director David P. Healey, Planning Director ..' -' ,,.lOU' .' Also Present Lauren Penny - L. R. Penny & Associates Tim Mobley - Mobley Homes Art Woodworth - Florida Technical Services, Inc. Doug Everlove - Florida Technical Services) Inc. Samuel Owen Spears - Maguire/Bosworth Sonny Waitz - Waitz & Frye Consulting Engineers William R. Griffin - Caudell-Gaylor, Inc. ',\ ----------------------~-------------------------------~------------------------- The 'meeting was called to order by Elizabeth S. Haeseker, Chairman, at 10:05 a.m., in the Operations Center Conference Room. The minutes of the meeting of October 13, 1983, were approved as corrected. 1. Alpine Road Condominiums, located at Southeast corner of the intersection of Kings Highway and Alpine Road. (Snair) FINAL SITE PLAN - APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS Joseph Molnar - No comments. Bill Tripp - Commented sidewalks should be indicated on all right-of-way frontages. Keith CTawford . Requested the island be removed from the middle of the driveway. David Healey - Commented the computation of net density needs to be 26 units per acre; the minimum side and rear yard setbacks are 21 feet and small adjustments on each of, those were needed; and a required buffer of a continuous landscape SCTeen 3~ to 6 ft. in height was needed between the property line and the ,parking lot .. Cecil Henderson - See written comments (Attachment 1). ,\ Don Beachler - See written comments (Attachment 2). , 1. 10-27-83 2. To remove the island at the entrance driveway. ,.-....,. I \ ,"-"" :, t-tOTION Ream Wilson - See written comments from the City Forester (Attachment 3). Mr. Wilson submitted n preliminary Assessment of Open Space/Recreation Impact worksheet (Attach- ment 3~ nnd requested a copy of the tax appruiser' 5 nsscssemcnt for the property to compute the final assessments. Cecil llenderson moved to recommend approval of the Final Sito Plan for Alpine Condominiums based upon the findings of this Committee that the plan conforms with the design guidelines for site plan review and subjeot to the following: 1. To identify the sidewalks on all right-of-way frontages. ,'~, ,.~'~ '.:;' "A1i ,I ' ~ l~ " " 3. To correct the computation of density on the plan; the net density indicated is 26 units per ncre. 4. To correctly identify the minimum side nnd renr setbacks, whatever they may be. 5. To identify a minimum landscape buffer across the parking lot as required by the ordinance with n minimum continuous hedge of 3~ ft. in height. 6. To revise the dumpster locations as approved by the Sanitation Division of the City. 7. The parkland dedication to be calculated and paid prior to the' issuance of the certification of the site plan. 8. The requisite initial building permits be issued within six months from the date of site plan approval and all requisite certificates of occupancy be issued within two years from the date of the issuance of the initial building permit. The motion was seconded by Bill Tripp and carried unanimously. 2. Brigadoon of Clearwater, located East of Fairwood Avenue and South of SCL Railroad. (Mobley Homes of Florida, Inc.) COMMUNITY IMPACT STATEMENT - CONTINUED 'Joseph Molnar - No comment other than tyPographical error on Pag~ 19 of the CIS, Item S--Police and Fire Protection, second line should read "suggested" inst~ad of "uggested." ,~~) Bill Tripp - No comment. Keith Crawford - Discussed typographical error on ~age 12 of the CIS, bottom line should Tead lFaiTwood" instead of "Fairway" Avenue. Mr. Crawford questioned the , number of parking spaces requiTed for a townhouse. Discussion ensued whether the townhouse was considered a single-family dwelling or a multiple-family dwelling. Art Woodworth commented that John Richter agreed that due to type of dwelling, etc., that 1.5 would be applicable as a minimum base for parking. Mr. Crawford also discussed that on Page 11 of the CIS describes a two-lane exit which allows for both right and left turns exiting the project and this information is not included on th~:site plan. 2. " ,0 ,<~; r' '. ," ,'" , I '. ' , , . ..,' :.. '. j , "~, '. ,~,:~:. ~ t' ,\, ,', 'I, ~ ,~ f i () ~ .~ Keith Crawford commented on the discrepancy on Page 12 of the CIS. The second paragraph references n 20 foot wide Toad and the site plan was changed to reflect n 24 foot road plus curb and gutter. Chairman Hllcsckcr stated that it appeared the Committee would have to discuss tho CIS with the site plan. Mrs. llaeseker questioned if this was going to be platted. Art Woodworth responded there would be a subdivision plat. " David Henlex - Commented on the need for handicapped provisions in the CIS and a letter written by the Suncoast Archaeological Society, as a follow-up response, should be included as a supplement to the CIS. Mr. Healey stated he had two other comments that overlap and involve the site plan: (1) Some concern from an environmental standpoint with respect to the soil characteristics and the topography in particular and to give as much attention to tree cover; (2) Has to do with the concept itself, the platting arrangement with the remainder of . the property being held in common by the homeowners association. Mr. Healey stated at this point in discussing the CIS, the need to reconcile that proposal with the City's previous concern and policy to try to plat to the centerline of the private-stree~ system in order to be able to attach that street system to a property specific rather than that held in con~on ownership by the homeowners association. Cecil Henderson - See written comments (Attachment 4). ;, "~'" ~, " . J ,:' ,;', '; :;;,1' . Don Beachler - No comments on the CIS. , , Ream Wilson - Questioned Page 17 of the CIS regarding using the adjacent park at Alligator Creek. On Page 18 of the CIS, it does not address the ilnpact on the park system. The CIS states that "the direct impact of the Brigadoon residents on these facilities will be negligible." Mr. Wilson proceeded to explain the open space and recreation facility impact fee ordinance that were recently passed by the City Commission in July, 1983, and commented that the project would have to comply with these ordinances. He presented the applicant with a preliminary worksheet for the assessment of the Open Space/Recreation Impact fees (see Attachment 5) and requested a copy of the most recent contract for purchase of the propert)' and a copy of the County Tax Appraiser's assessment for just value. The larger of those two will be used to calculate the value of the property for the three different assessments that would be required. ~Ir. Wilson further explained that t~e fees are due prior to the certification of the final site plan other than the recreation facility fee which is paid at the time of building permit. Mr. Wilson requested the documents be submitted as soon as possible so these calculations can be made. \1 ' Chairman Haeseker - Suggested to withhold action on the CIS until the review of the final site plan. 3. 10-27-83 , ',', . , , ' f " "I~ . I , ' '. ", ' ~":'" '. " '.'.. ,:< (:>[:,:.~:~:'/~> :', ~.: .- \-~~ ,---\ , . ') . .......... ,', ,:', , :) ~.', t /, \' " 11,. . '\ .' o ,r--.. ( PINAL SITE PI.t\N - CONTINUED. Joseph Molnar - Commented that due to this project being a multi-unit complex, the spacing for tho fire hydrants should be 300 feet apart instead of 600 feet. Also" nn eight-inch line looping is required instead of a six-inch line looping. Bill Tripp - No comments. Keith Crawford - Discussed the detail on the site plan showing the road with a 24 foot asphalt pavement~ the actual site plan indicates 20 feet and needs to be changed to 24 feet, 3S per the detail. David Henley - Explained the net density calculation to the applicants. The net density needs to reflect the following: net acreage of 14.841~ net density of 11.6 units per acre. Mr. Healey discussed the need to know what the building height is going t,o be in feet. Mr. Woodworth responded the bUilding. floor to slab, is 22 feet within a few inches. Mr. Healey requested that this be shown on the site plan. Mr. Healey commented the recreation area needs to be shown more definitively to be able to document that it constitutes at least 15% of the lot area. which is the requirement of the RPD. Mr. Healey discussed the City's concern of the lot arrangement. He restated his concerns that those platted lots should continue to the midpoint of the private street and include the street in the fee simple lotting arrangement. Discussion ensued regarding the possibility of the City being requested to maintain the roads at sometime in the future. Mr. Healey suggested that the applicants provide documents to the Planning Department to be forwarded to the City Attorney to reassure the City that the private corpora- tion is adequately established and funded. Chairman Haeseker commented that even though these people. own this parking space, the corporation will maintain it. Mr. Healey mentioned the change in elevation and the apparent cut and fill (hot-i iH Blocks 10, 11, and 12 in particular indicate there is a significant amount of change in elevation that occurs in the course of the building area). Discussion ensued regarding the decking. Mr. Healey commented the minimum spacing on either end of the blocks of the building. Mr. Woodworth responded there will be an absolute minimum of 20 feet physically between the buildings. Mr. Healey requested that that be stated on the site plan. Cecil Henderson - See written conunents (Attachment 6). Don Beachler -,Stated the Engineering Department had no comments; l~ater Quality has submitted written comments (see Attachment 7). 'I Ream Wilson - Commented that Alligator Creek Park is inunediately West of this project and a bike trail system from the park to Eisenhower School was planned. Mr. Wilson requested an easement for the bike trail to cross the access road in the project. Mr. Woodworth responded the applicant would be more than happy to work with the City on this project. Mr. Wilson submitted written comments from the City Forester (Attachment 8). 4. 10-27-83 1:!~~t:;':';;i'~:-:::!'::::: :~ ';'':::.':i::~ :r;~: .. :,:1=,.> ' ;~~?' ,:,', ~. . " '.';'" ' ~'. ,~' ,t " ',' '.' '" .,' \. l" ~ , ','":'" ~ r~ ."..-., , ,., ,:,. ~ Tim ~tobley questioned the estimated assessment of $51,000 for open spacol recreation impact fees. Discussion ensued. Mr. Wilson explained tho payment of the assessments. ~fr. Wilson also stated the rough estimate was based on the 1982 assessment found in the CIS and commented that the assessments could be considerably higher based on mOl'C recent documents to be submitted to the City. MOTION David Hcaley moved that both the Community Impact Statement nnd the Pinnl Site Plan be continued to allow the applicant the opportunity to address the concerns of the Resource Development C~mmittec. The Motion was seconded by Joseph Molnar; the motion carried with one vote in opposition (Cecil Henderson). 3. Brigantine Condominiums, located at North side of Bayway Blvd., opposite Clearwater Pass Avenue. (Dugger). FINAL SITE PLAN - APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. Joseph Molnar - Questioned where the nearest hydrant was located--and if a hydrant was located on the corner of Clearwater Pass. Mr. Molnar stated in 1980 George'Buhmeyer requested a fire hydrant be placed across the street fr~m Clearwater Pass on the Southwest corner. t-tr. SpeuTs responded that he would check that out. Bill Tripp - No comments. Keith Crawford - Stated parking spaces numbered 10 and 11 should have 9 ft. doors instead of 8 ft. doors. ~tr. Spears responded that the doors could be made to nine foot garage doors as opposed to eight foot garage doors. David Healey - Requested the applicant identify the dimensions ,on the swimming pool from the lot line. Cecil Henderson - See written comments (Attachment 9). Don Beachler - Stated the Engineering Department had no comments; Water Quality has submitted written comments'(see Attachment 10). Ream Wilson - See wTitten comments from the City Forester (Attachment 11). MOTION Cecil Henderson moved to recommend approval of the Final Site Plan for Brigan- tine Condominiums based upon the findings of this Committee that the plan con- forms with the design gUidelines for site plan review and subject to the following: 1. Parking spaces numbered 10 and 11 should indicate nine-foot doors instead of eight-foot doors. 2. Identify the dimension on the swimming pool from the lot line. 3. The requisite initial building"permits be issued within six months from the date of City Manager approval of the Final Site Plan and all requisite certificates of occupancy be issued within two years from the date of issuance of the initial building permit. ,~ . . ~ t , ) Discussion on the Motion. Josoph Molnar rcstutcd his concerns for the additional fire hydrant and stated if it isn't there ot tho present timet it will hove to be there. The motion \~ns seconded by David flonley nnd carried unanimously. 4. Clearwater Village North (Tract K). located on North side of nntcrprisc Road, East of U. S. 19. (Epoch Properties, Inc.) CIS ADDENDUM - APPROVED. .' Sonny Waitz gave a brief synopsis of the changes submitted on the CIS. Mr. Waitz stated the comments on page 7 were using 2 rather than 2.2 for the average number of persons per dwelling. This project will generate an estimated population of approximately 220 persons; the market analysis and economical impact sections were expanded; and that a letter ~f compliance will be furnished to the City. Keith Crawford moved to approve the CIS Addendum as submitted. MOTION The motion was seconded by Ream Wilson and carried unanimously. REVISED FINAL SITE PLAN - APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. Joseph Molnar - No comments. Bill Tripp - No comments. .-:-:,\ Keith Crawford - No comments. '~~J David Healey commented the 25 foot minimum setback from the ROW needs to apply to those privacy walls or enclosures that extend from the building. Mr. Waitz questioned if a wooden fence under 30 inches would be acceptable. Mr. Healey responded that if it was over 30 inches, it had to be behind the minimum setback. Mr. IIeaIey discussed the following: if the privacy fence/enclosure extends into the 15 foot minimum rear setback, it either needs to be pulled back or reduced in height; the 25% useable open space requirement needs to be identified on the plan; the imperable surt'~~ ~overage shown is 65.4% and needs to be reduced to 65%; the IO-foot fence Beft~Rar~ne+~~nnis courts needs bfd8e behind the front yard setback off of Enterprise Road;1~dur ai-the siX-uB~tt~~0>>PHe~~lga~Bo~y~osl~~ate8e cover and/or the very low wet area in the Southeast corner'ano 'su~ge*ie~~hefunits ~E in each moved back, deleted, or repositioned as second-story units elsewher8 ~n the project. ,:::' grouping be Discussion ~nsued. Mr. Waitz responded that he was instructed that this project needed to have 100 units and, therefore. was unable to cut any units from the project. Cecil Henderson - See written comments (Attachment 12). Don Beachler - See written comments (Attachment 13). Ream Wilson - See written comments from the City Forester (Attachment 14). Mr. Wilson submitted a preliminary Assessment of Opcn Space/Recreation Impact worksheet (Attach- ment 15) and stated six months had elapsed since the original preliminary site plan was approved. Since this project was starting over again. it is subject to the new open space/recreation impact assessment fees and ordinances which were passed by the City Commission. Mr. Wilson requested a copy of the most recent contract for purchase of the property and a copy of the County Tax Appraiser1s assessment, just value. The larger of those two will be used to calculate the value of the property :' --') ,', ~J f) ~. , .~ , ~ , , > ~ ':~ .::.':~ for the three different assessments that would be required. Mr. Wilson further stated that the fees are due prior to tho certification of the final site plan other than the recreation faclli ty foe which is paid at the time of building ,permit.' He also requested the documents be submitted as soon as possible so these calculations could be made. ~ >', 'c ,.,' MOTION David Healey moved that the Committee having reviewed the Final Site Plan and finding it consistent with the design guidelines of the site plan review ordinance recommends, it be approved subject to: A. The following changes being made prior to its submission for approval and certification: 1. That the water line looping arrangement be adjusted as per the suggestion of the Utilities Department. 2. That the dumpsters be repositioned in accordance with the suggestion of the Sanitation Division. 3. That the setbacks be adjusted to conform with the minimum required setbacks as they relate to the screen enclosures. .' , . !~~, .:D~ ,. ,. " . >, J ' ~ r " " '~A ' ~ ;'. \ J .' ~ ,:", ' ~ ' ~....~ ~ ",,: / ~", '. 4. Subject to' the deletion of four units identified as units ,AA in the very Southeast corner of the project and units AA immediately East of the tennis courts. B. The following conditions being met: /-, , '"\ " ,1: ,. 0,r'c~c. .,'. . ,:~', .;, <' .~\:" > . 'r<,' ' " ,.I' :, '. . " ' 1. Easements over the water mains up to and including fire hydrants and meters. 2. Meeting the park dedication requirements as outlined by the Parks and Recreation Department. 3.' That the initial building permit be obtained within six months from the date of approval of the Final Site Plan' and the project be completed within two years from the dat e of the initial building permit. . ' The motion was seconded by Cecil Henderson. David Healey amended his motion to those specific units that have been , ..,. identified (A-4 of the motion) be eliminated in the locations shown, with ,the opportunity for the applicant to add those four units back in as second story uriits over the other existing units as shown. .T) The arnendment,to the motion was seconded ,by Cecil Henderson. The motion as amended was carried unanimously. 7. ',~ . , ','. .',." ""." ':':I.".~','"... t ',...:~':\.t..::".,':'.' ",'.. :,..'~.,',..J,':~,.,,:/,'.,~.,';-~,:,",,". :,.,':t":','"...,:~:\.~~~:,'~~:\:,\l,::" '.',,: "'. (~ r--.... ~ ,~ -'1 .i' s. Hercules Office Complex (Park Place). located [!ast si.de of lIorcules Avenue and South of Palmetto Street. PINAL SIlD PLAN - CONTINUED. REPLAT (Lot 2. R. II. Woodley Subdivision) - CONTINUED. Joseph Molnar - No comments. ",. I'". '::>, " , .. :':;'1 "....) Bill Tripp - No comments. Keith Crawford - Commented the pavement width not including the curb and gutter should be 24 feet wide; the dl'iveway itself should be the full width; and there were three places on the plan showing a 20 foot pavement. plus curb and gutter. Mr. Griffith commented that this had already been built. He admitted making a mistake in that he thought he had gotten all of the approvals and went out to bid. When they carne to platting just recently, he found out that he did not have all of the approvals. Discussion ensued. Mr. Crawford responded that if it is built. the City will go ah~ad and accept that. On these other two that are not built. the curb line should be moved over to where it should be. If they get built accidentally. the COs will not be issued for the building until the problem is corrected. David Healey - Discussed the following informational items: He strongly suggested that this project be called something other than Park Place; the legal description needs to be changed to Lot 2. of the R. H. Woodley Subdivision; the building height . must be shown in feet in order to determine the setbacks (the City has presumed that these are one-story. if that is the case, the setbacks probably work); the 'maximum imperable surface coverage is 7S. s% and should be reduced to 70%; and some consideration should be given to the extension of the access/egress easements. , , ,".' " , .' .' '.,1 ~.. ~ ,. ,. " ~ ','1<.: ..',I ,~: t :', ," '", :'t: '/',:" ~ ~:~ ::~ ~~ i' '; ,~ ~,; J..',t' ",' ,'\" ,.:" '.',: '. ~ ;.' , :, , ,;~.: :,t". Mr. Healey questioned if this was the property that had the North/South access easement and Mr. Griffith replied that he believed that had been vacated. ~Ir. Healey requested that Mr. Griffith check that and if it hasn't been, the easement should be shown. , ,,' ~ ' ~~:,:} " ,', ' ~ ..'~':> ,c't i :::'~, Cecil Henderson - Commented that the Utilities Department would like the applicant to coordinate meter placement with the City's Water Division and the water lines, as built. are okay. '" \~ :~"~:'~ '~ -, . ."; , ' ....',' ,'~ ,~;, ; I:~' I' : , ~ ., .... > "'.;\: Don Beachler - No comments. ';;, ,,:-7; "f.~ ~ I \ \~' Ream Wilson - See written comments from the City Forester (Attachment 16). 1, Discussion ensued regarding the process starting allover. Mr. Healey stated that since the Site Plan Ordinance itself let alone the Park Recreation Ordinance has been amended. this is a whole new process. Technically, this should have, been received as a preliminary site plan--a new preliminary site plan, subdivision plat. He further stated it is scheduled on the Commission Agenda for receipt and referral and will corne back before the Resource Development Committee for final site plan approval and preliminary plat recommendations. It then would be pro- cessed under that new procedure and the new park dedication requirements applicable. , " , " ~ ~.. : ~tl . , ~" " ",J \ ., .~" ~ "., " ", " , . 8. I' , "', :': ':',.: ~:'::;!~~;.~;:.t~:;!!\f;i:)('{~i~? ',,' .',: I', '.' . '..,:,;:11);:'-'/'>:' . f ."d ," .c." ',' '," ',-;'.,<. :11":."':':' ,I ,.", ..',~ ,..,~';::'~:;?~J\:;_,t?;\~,>,:. '.",., ., .,.' , , , ' I ,t.. I " '... 'J.? 1 ,~", '" , ,; , ,,(':, '\ ::,</"" ,~'.,{; '::': ',' 0',1., ',l,", " . ,': , I: '. .~,. ~ .' , , " '. "of,'i'. ..,I",.I',':t.'y+".. "L',.~i,,\'1 '" " ,;, ,,:'~l<,l,:~,.!.,,:",:':l'.:,:' \ ;...:~/l ., " .. i " "'.f .'.';~ "" (".,,' ,,' "':",,' ,'" "I.., , :'" '" ".' ~ " '~'.;r" \:,:;:,;~/::;:,;,j('>, ,:':~',: i\ . , .' ':i . .' ',ih::'!,',',j'~:!:1'(L'''!i\..,'':':F): -::~' ,;' " .., '",,"," !,:,.'.,;, ,..".1."1":"" ". ;",,1,.., , ,,) "'i',.,,' ,'~" " ,',..\','.',.', , '" " , , \ . " .. ',r':,.., ",.:,J ", .:,., .'1,' ",<", ,. r ".. .,' ", ,:t "h. =: ' I.. '" ~', '. ' , ',:,',', \' ,: I. , ,~.' , .., '" I' . ' . ',' '., '~\I~. ': ':~ 1." " I: " ',' ",-, ':: '. . > :' :, ' , " "" .. ,'~ " I '~-'\ "M00N' ,;: , ,', ~I""~"",,, '~ ~~.t::':/"'",:"",: '.' " '~:. ;:.' , .; ~, . ..-, ! . ,---- Ream Wilson - Stated the opon space impact assessment would have to be satisfied which is 4% of the new land area which would translate into approximately 3,702 square feet. Since that is such a small piece of property, he suggested cash in lieu of land and explained the Park Recreation Ordinance requirements. He rc- que~ted a copy of the County's Tax Appraiser's assessment of the property plus a copy of the most recent sales contract for the property be submitted to the Parks and Recreation Department. The value of a square foot would then be determined by the greater of those two to determine what the cash in lieu of would be. Mr. Wilson stated the documents would have to be conveyed to the City prior to the certification of the final site plan. ~Ir. Healey suggested that the Committee take the position that this is a new submission and take thi~ like it i~ to the City Commission next week under the agenda item already reserved and get the Commission to accept the preliminary plan, note the things that are of concern or issue, and give Mr. Griffith a chance to come back and address those concerns with a modified final site plan and a preliminary plat. Mr. Healey commented he could still coordinate the platting part of it with the Planning and Zoning Board to get Mr. Griffth back on the Commission agenda for the 17th of November. Chairman Haeseker commented the only other question before the Committee is the Parks and Recreation Assessment Ordinance. Mr. Healey suggested Mr. Griffith could appeal to the City Commission at the next meeting of Thursday, November 17th. David Healey moved that we recommend that it be submitted as a Preliminary Site Plan for receipt and referral by the City Commission at their November 3rd meeting and that it proceed from that point. The motion was seconded by Keith Crawford and carried unanimously. \ 6. DISCUSSION ONLY--Downtown Building Standards Ordinance. Chairman Haeseker gave a brief synopsis of this item that went before the Resource Development Committee in 1982. She stated this item was originally brought to the ROC at the request of the Downtown Development Board through the City Manager. The last recommendation from this Committee to the City Manager was that the property owners should set up their own restrictive covenants or someother mechan- ism so that they would enforce the maintenance of downtown to themselves. The Chairman suggested the Committee look at the Mobile, Alabama Ordinance to see if they could come up with an alternative recommendation. Chairman Haeseker left the meet~ng and Ream Wilson served as Acting Chairman. Mr. Healer stated the Mobile ordinance was not adopted until April of this year. He stated further that Mobile's perception of this ordinance is that it very much depends on a voluntary participation by the downtown group--that it isn't an enforcement mechanism so much as it is an effort toward voluntary compliance to upgrading the area. '~fr. Wilson suggested if the Chairman or the City Manager wants the Conwittee to draft a proposed ordinance, the Committee could take the ordinance that was originally drafted together with the Mobile ordinance and to take out what the 9. !~f ~. "~ I j\ :" ' , ~;:_:' .', ' d' I ~i \. .: ~1 .,~ .. .. .li ',:". . '.:::.,'! c I,.,', ' ~f/;'~:. J ' \'. ',' '., ~" . ~ 'I}:', '~. " <" f'; .. rt.. ,'ri.. " <,~: . rl .,' ,'-'" I ., ' ". ' , Committee feels are the best portions of tho two and try to put them together as 'a proposed ordinance. Bill Tripp commented on incentives to be offered and suggested to tie them into the,pr~posedordinance. Mr;'Healey stated the difficulty in writing an aesthetic ordinance for buildings that are not located on Cleveland Street (e.g'J Bilgore property, Tack and Warren, et c. ) r:i:';>"': :. c c ~' , " " -, ' \t ~:;.' " '" ' , \~~~ .:~ L :' " ~ ;'. . l ' {'I',:" -:~ , . . Cecil Henderson commented that the Committee needed somed8efinite direction. Mr. Healey suggested the only thing the Committee could !e was to get back to the, Chairman. ' He stated the Committee now has copies of the new Mobile Ordinance and'were available to meet to pursue this at her direction. i'!, '" ;;',..,',.,. ~,~;~;.:" ' . , '. ~ . ,"':'.,.' f, " {( ~" \'/,',:, '\ :~":'i>-: " " 1,... >< " " f~/;. ','~ I't ~ .. , "l....i. '...., 'i~j :L:' 'p' : ~ ,r , ' ' , .;.~). " .,': , :-':c,';,',", o. ' ~N'>~.:" ; ~! . ~w., t~:~,\>"".'" ': ~f""" . ~)t:\L;>: .. ~'(""" , " , ff~./~~._~,~':< ,r . ". ':., <. ,.,,' ;, i"t~V;i' ,',: ,.." " "" , . " n ", ,'" l . ' ~\c.fi " . 1:,:,:; " ,.'" ,~.".~~ >. ' .' ,,': ",' ;;,.';1.:~~~.,\:., ,: ,:; ,,' '-: ',. ';. ". ,.:' ~!:ii;..'/:. '.: .. lr~~~~, ~ "".~,, ',', 1i~i;{i!;;f',O":i+.S;,;.. .... ,.,,:.:... :. The: consensus of the Committee was that nothing was required of the Committee right' now ,other than to pa.ss out the ~fobi1e. Alabama Ordinance and wait for f4rther, direction from the Chairman or the City Manager. The meeting adjourned at 1~25 p.m. '. " ,'. ' . , "I , .:/' T 'j. , ,1 ~:, , ' ,,' .. .1:'...,' , " , ;1' '\ , '.' I : ~ '. ; . I ,i " !'. ./, \' " ".. . ;.t 'j " ',," ",lo .' l . 'c.. .~, ,)' " '" 10. " " , ':,\