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12/09/1981 - Special Elizabeth S. Haeseker, Assistant City Manager, Chairman Paul Rettig, Utilities Director Paula Harvey, Planning Department George Buhmeyer, Fire Marshal Don Meerians, Traffic Engineering Department Cecil Henderson, Public Works Department Roy Ayres, Building Director j ~ f~ . I (' OFFICIAL '. ". ~ 'L~ . "".,' City of Clearwater, Florida RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING December 91 1981 (Special "eeting) MEMBERS PRESENT .-, ../. '....../ MEMBERS ABSENT Ream Wilson, Parks a~d Recreation ~2~~_~~~2l~_~~~ESZ________________________________________________________ The meeting was called to order by the Chairman at 10:10 a.m. in the Assistant City Manager's conference room in City Hall Annex. ITEM HI - WAG'S RESTAURANT (Out Parcel of Gulf-to-Bay Shoppin~ Plaza, located at the southwest corner of Duncan Avenue and Gulf-to-Bay Boulevard) ~"<I-' ' '. ' ?' c.... .'. ,h,' .. ~.... , :~("~ ';='"', 1',',(,., n..... ~:':. ~~\... ! Also Present: William E. Touloumis, Walgreen Company, architect for' Wag's Restaurant. Site Plan Review Parks and Recreation and Energy had no comments regarding this Item. . Paula Harvey: Expressed concern regarding the number of parking spaces .on Lot 2,'Gulf-to-Bay Shopping Center. As one space is required for every three employees and as the Ordinance states that for a restaurant with 156 seats, 52 parking spaces are required; the plan is below the standard set by the Ordinance by approximately five spaces. Mr. Touloumis stated that this problem had been resolved because of the cross-parking agreements between the shopping center. and the Walgreen Company.. Paula Harvey replied that the shopping center has only five extra spaces, and they are being allocated to Ace Auto Parts. Walgreen's only has one available parking space; therefore, the additional parking spaces that are required must be'found on the Wag's lot. ' " :{. :..:. ~~:,. '.:". ~ ir~' . \:.0 "I' > ~. ~ : ;. ~ ,:t.'.. . Ro~ Ayres; Stated that by using the building code formula (one person for every 15 square feet), the seating limit should be 124. This would . , allow' the 50 available parking spaces to meet the Ordinance. So, there are three options available to the developer: .., .' .., ~'~:. ~ -:;.' .' ~ . :~r~~: , , K<.':::' . ~"'~'.. ,~,,+.,;'. " .... .' ..... ", '\ t' . I:'" " ~ .'.p ,. ,', .1... " ~I" :~ " :-....1 !" l) ",.-.,. i ! ~ 1. 2. Reduce the seating. Increase the parking. This is a possibility, ao original plan showed more PQ~king spaces. Obta!n a variance from the Board of Adjustment. the :,0 3. Paula Uarvey: Wanted to know the number of employees anticipated, and waB told that the number would be approximately 9 or 11. Roy Ayres: Stated that all other requirements had been met. , " '" Don Meerians: Stated that when the overall site plan was approved by the CommiBsio~it showed a 30-foot access from Gulf-to-Bay Boulevard. It is now reduced to 24 feet. He mentioned this, as a State permit ia required for access to Gulf-to-Bay. Mr. Touloumis said that the plans were submitted to the D.O.T., and a permit was issued for the 24-foot drive. .' " i; L. " .~ " > Don Meertana mentioned the safety hazard that a 24-foot access would cause and'mentioned that it would be possible to narrow the islands to get the extra footage and, in this way, they would not lose a parking space. Another possibility would be to stripe the access and leave more room to enter the parking lot than there would be to exit. i.' :' 'George Buhmeyer: capacities; i.e., ,work things out. ' a fire hazard. Stated that if there is a discrepancy between seating arrangements of eitlier 124 or 156, they could It was felt that the seating of 1?6 would not cause ~ .' . .,,', . ~~~;: .'~ ';t, ;:7\ ~r':,':';:~:::) .':-,~>+, .' ~r(:' ~ ' ':~'~.'I '~"t> ': T ~!'.. ~:.'c . ~., c' . ' ~:~ \. . . i,' ......, ... Paul Rettig: Had no problems with the site plan; however~ he wanted to point out that no detector check is necessary if the line is tied into the Fire Department. George Buhmeyer: Said that he believed the Code required it to be tied in with the fire system, and that he will take care of that. All sprinkler systems must be tied in. :. <~ Cecil Henderson questioned the location of the gas tanks, and George ,Buhmeyer said that they had been removed. Paul Rettig: . Would recommend that since gas is to be used, the developer should discuss plans with the Gas Sales prior to completion of ,the project so the area would not have to be torn up and repaired to accommodate the gas plumbing. ':' , (;' ~ ,I . ~ (;. , i... . :.:,1 Cecil Henderson: See attachment. ;' '. :.~". . Discussion ensued, with Roy Ayres suggesting that the developer get with the' sign inspector to make certain that the signs are in accordance with the code. f.> " , ,: Paula Harvey Made a motion to approve the site plan subject to the following conditions and changes: .. :~I.:' . r""", "\2) fi:~~:,:, " ",t. ..:~.. ' ;, < ~ . ; ...., " '7..." r~r.';', . "". I . ::~;r . Page 2 12/9/81 ~~'}':::,"<':";'![\~ ,Jti" ,\ ~, . .......1,. . ~~~(;~'.. t \ 1.' '," , . '~ ' 4-' '. ,," , ' . . , ' I ' ... ~ ,~, ,....~ :1 I o 1. Access to Gulf-to-Bay Boulevard be widened to 30 feet. 2. A variance be obtained Cor the t'uquired parking spaces. Motion was seconded by Cecil Henderson. " Discussion ensued. Cecil Henderson said tlUlt the driveway should be widened because of the safety issue and. although he expressed concern about cutting back on the beautification. he felt that safety was more important. Don Meerianaa!so expressed concern by mentioning the large number of accidents on Gulf-to-Bay caused by 24-foot accesses. Roy Ayres mentioned that Mr. Touloumis would want to know about the scheduling of the Commission Meeting for this site. Paula Harvey stated that the fact that a variance must be obtained would delay the scheduling until January of 1982. She stated that a variance would probably be no problem. but as it is part of the Ordinance. the Resource Development Committee is not authorized to waive the parking requirement. Paul Rettig mentioned the possibility of reducing the seating, and Paula Harvey said that if the developer agrees, the number of parking spaces now shown would be sufficient to comply with the Ordinance. Mr. Touloumis said that as it is a fixed seating arrangement, it would not be possible to reduce the number of seats shown on the plan. I....: . Roy Ayres suggested approving the parking,spaces for 122 seats, and then following up with a site plan change to again increase the seating to 156 seats if the variance is granted. He mentioned that this would be takings, chance by assuming that the variance would be granted. Geor~e Buhmeyer said that, according to his calculations, the number of seats allowed by the formula is 129 and not 122. Roy Ay~e8 stated that his calculations did not include employee parking. ,:."0'" . ~~ .'. , l' " , . '" . t. . . t". Elizabeth Haeseker stated that as the plan was presented with 156 .seats, it must be discussed according to the plan; and a variance must he sought. '. , , . ;, Mr. Touloumis agreed ~hat 156 seats must be kept and suggested that he may be ,able to accommodate the added parking spaces, but it may be 'detrimental to the beautification of ,the area. He feels that this may present a problem, as he would like to see more trees and landscaping. Mr. Touloumis mentioned that time was very important if this plan was to go through. I:' " > Elizabeth Haeseker reiterated that the Committee cannot waive the parking requirement, and they must consult the Board of Adjustment. ,: Paula Harvey said that the parking spaces in existence are sufficient to allow 141 seats and if 15 seats are deleted, the meeting with the Board of Adjustment is not required. -'- ".' '\ . ,. , ...~I Mr. Touloumls mentioned the possibility of taking the garbage srea and making it a part of the building. In that way. it would liberate one parking space and have four extra feet down the line. If they go . with the 5-foot island, it will provide an additional two parking spaces., They will also be able to provide more parallel parking beside the building. .", . , :', . , . ,.' '-. " : Page 3 1'/../9/81 w~~~~~.~~::: ?":'.:",;:~',': .';:,:' :':~:.::::~'? " .. , . .. . ',, I . , .. . . , . , co< " - c," 1 .. () ;,-, " ,c if'" ' V,::, :,,': ';C" ' ~ . :~h I' ; .....~jIJ Paul Rettig said that this would cause a problem because the garbage would then have to be rolled out. and that is not recommended. It may, however. be allowed by approval of the Sanitation Superintendant. He mentioned that it would be Wags' responsi~ility to' rollout the garbage. Cecil Henderson uaid that the motion must be modified to read that the variance be obtained for the required parking spaces or that the' number ,of parking spaces be increased. . " " . ~l Roy Ayres. Paul Rettig and George Buhmeyer, Mr. Touloumis and Don mo~ing Meerians, all discussed the possibility of ~Qdu~~A8-t~Q-Q~za_Qf/the ' handicapped parking spaces 88Q-m9~~A8-G~Q~ to give additional parking spaces. '. ' ,> ..... , , ' '" fl; {~ . /~: . '/. , '. \ ~, , .' .L, , Paula Harvey made an amendment to her motion to add to the condition :'\, cqncerning the variance that either a parking variance be obtained 'or parking be adjusted on the site plan to provide the required number of spaces. I , .~ I I 1:;")., ,'1:- The motion was carried unanimously. , ' ,-,"" , I'!:; '. :~?':' t~;,~"'~' " ,.j,@\. "j"'~0 ~\;::"~" 'd ~~~~,::>:: ,:'~ ': :.... ~t~:.:..~.:. .',1 E(:'~:,: ':, ~~~:;"~::' I,:' ,:; , L ~ <.<1, :,: ,_.' . '. .',. B\?:>.~\:::".'~ . ii.. :::: ,.' " ~'.;. ........ I, ~ . . l :\~:!. ' 'Paula Harvey said tbat it looks as though this Item will be able to go before the City Commission on December 17t 1981, but she must have ,.a revised site plan shOWing the location of the restaurant and the parking revisions in the Planning Department as soon as possible so .' ,that: ahe may give them to the Work Session for their meeting on, :Honday ,morning. ',' The meeting was adjourned at 10:55 a.m. <' ';' '0 :. , ,.. " '. , " .. ' s , ( Chairman , . ;. ,'.l , '.'" . . < ,'. .. .,' ,f) Ci, >' I' . rf;Y,~::::' ":':'~':'""':, ":" '" ,~ "l:;~~\ '- " ," ~E r~~":::::,: ;.':: ",':,:', Ij:'l[;{~~{;):.. :'.... .~__ .,\ '/C , '\ , .- " ' Page 4 12/9/81 .' . I . ,I', ..:~.: : ;'..' <'... ~, ....'.... ,'0.". ,;""::"..~.;.,..,,,;:~..~.,,'..t\:.:...":..",,", ..'.;.:....'~..'~...~,.,....; ".... .>', . ;'.: f}V'. ",~ 'J .'"1. . .1'\ " < , 'l" ; 'c:~ ~ f1 ~ {./ ;"::- >.: '. ~,. c. . ,,' r'.', RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT/CO~UNITY' IMPACT STATEM~~~_ . (', 'I".. " I ~ , . , .~,.~: . '" SPECIAL MEETING - December 9, 1981 WAG'S RESTAURANT (OUT PARCEL OF GULF TO B~Y SHOPPING PLAZA) . (Located S.W. corner Duncan Ave. & Gulf to Bay Blvd.) Preliminary Site Plan . . ........ ','.-, ., . , t'.:' L':'" :. ~. . City of Clearwater Engineer J. W. Rooks '; . Engineering Comments: 'f"'. .'" : .'1.. Sanitary sewer is served by Marshall Street Sewer Plant. \ 2. .Storm water runoff is deceased'due to paved areas becoming planters on finished construction, , .;): \. '~'. . l\' . ~ r-;.~"." " {'~:I, '. ' > . ~~ :,'.~ " .': ." ,': 1~?Y ~ '; . " f/';:" ....... ..' ,. ~I~:~':":.;';": ;"; I ~ . f~@:'d'. . ..,w~ter Qualit~: No cO'F'ents. $!P,:;,\I..~,....: . .' Land .~esources: . r'" '. .;.':ti.:.:..!..;.:.;....:..:::.~I.:..:.::'. <...... .. .' . Code requires shade trees adj acent to R. O. W. in parking area. ~,.' ,'. r~6w~ver., . we' 'can accept palm substi.tute due to proxi~ity of \:~;/;. ....:. .,:' . '-.' . sign' to street with the condition. that . live oaks be planted ~1S,~'''',':'' .:. ;';: .,' :-..". .'<per"plans on the three remaining perimeter. buffer strips. ., . I. . , ',':\cc:'~'.' '~c'. .l. I < '. :'. ". . ~ 'jf. ,." : ' , ~" c' , ....' ~:t/;i ' . . ~~::;;,.~,:.;; :'," c , ;!:~ . ' . ':."', ;' fiX;:::,:;. ...,:.' \ . i-I . :~'. : ".'. '3'. Gas tanks are. to be removed before proposed construction. , " . , .) CMH: jwr.: cc :cg , "!, '. . '. . '1. .. .~ . . . " i ,.,'. . ., .i . . '"