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07/23/1981 r1 ,-... 'c OFFICIAL ~ MINUTES RESOURCE DEVEI.lOPMENT COMMITTEE \ City oC Clearwater, Florida July 23, 1981 J MEMBERS PRESENT: 'v/ Betty Haesckcr, Chairman Paul Rettig, Utilities Director George Buhmeyer, Fire Marshal Don Meerians, Traffic Engineering Art Kader, Asst. Parks &: Recreation Director Paula Harvey, Planning Department Roy Ayres, Building Director John Rooks, Engineering Chris Cowles, Land Resources Specialist ,. ~ OTHERS PRESENT: ,:'~ Dean Goodsmith of Goodamith &: Hiott Construction Co., Inc. Michael Oliver, Pastor of Sylvan Abbey United Methodist Church Don Williams of Williams &: Walker, Architects Hank St. Jean of Williams &: Walker Dennis Plumley ~: :: ' . 1,-' ~<'3" ~~ ~ . + . !II~,: :. .' ~{,,:t:, . ;f:', r:. c ..(i'~' .' ... .\0., . 1'.... :. ~~'~;' -,. ' 'j';..,j" . r. " ;\.::;, : Meeting was called to order at 10:20 A. M. Paul Rettig made a motion to continue the minutes of July 9, 1981. This motion was seconded and carried . unanimously. !:/:",:. '. . :;"l'~' '. ~/::c :. ..... ~, ". .\.' ',:, ~, ,t . ~j/:'c'. . .' ~. ~~., ~t;:\. ~ .~,.. . .f'", .Paula Harvey made motion to approve the minutes of the July 16, 1981 meeting and this wa's seconded and passed unanimously. Sylvan Abbey United Methodist Church, Goodsmith & Hiott Construction Co. , Inc.; located on State Road 588 opposite Soule Road (Anne"ation Agreement). Preliminary Site Plan >:.. Don Meerians said the plan shows no paved parking and the code requires some paved parking places and a paved driveway; also sidewalks should be installed. If they are planning to use the lawn .for parking, Engineering will have to approve this.' and they will also need a maintenance man there every day. For daily usage of church people, they will have to have 4 to 5 spaces paved. ~ .,': .: . ~ . f:~:.~ ~ . , , .t:;.' . ""'.0,,:, ~r' . " ~~;:..; . '. c Art Kader had no comments. ", (,' .' .~.~.: .... :: ~~~~~ : ., '\", .'I~C.:._: ~~.<..r. ( .', , .~." ,.. . '~if r" "0:' ; '. ", ROy,Ayres stated they will need the architect to submit sealed drawings. - 1 - .SEP 219B) " ,c (j. I ,.1. . f~ ;'"" . , : Paula Harvey made the following comments which will be sent: to the applicant a in letter form: 1. Need to show zoning of surrounding properties and provide landscape buffers along all property line B abutting residential area B. z. Need to show building heights on plan. Need to show location of parldng spaces and marked handicapped spaces. 3. Need to show square footage of buildings and Beating capacity and floor area oC auditorium. 4. Need to have calculations for required parking: 1 space per 4 seats or 1 space per 30 sq. ft. of auditorium noor area.. They will need a variance if they are not going to put in the paved parking. or the required parking, 1 apace per 2.,000 groBs square feet of building usage must: be paved. The remainder may be grass surface and must be approved by the City Engineer. \ 5. Legal descriptlon is incorrect. Should he Sec. S-=~,-*V. 5-295-16E. , 6. Need to show retention. ~ ' t.: 7. Need to show fire hydrants on site. '.'8 '.' ',' >:'< j .. 8. Will need waiver for sidewalk requirement. ..,.,~ . 9. Need location of dumpsters. 10. Sand filter system must be approved by the D. E. R. Mr. Buhmeyer asked if the plans had been submitted to the County yet and they said' they had been on July 7th. Mr. Buhmeyer said he had not seen them and we would require fire hydrants. Applicant said the 8" line is already in. Mr. Rettig told them to ge,t with the Water Division to have the hydrant installed and to get with Sani~ation about their garbage and trash. Also, when they pay for the water meter, we 'Will tap it in. Chris Cowles asked about the trees on the site and applicant said there will be no trees destroyed or removed. Mr. Rooks stated there are no sewers available to this site - in Clearwater East service area. Applicant said Charles Klein, their Engineer, has designed a sand filter system which will be shown on the drawings also. -'-,~. '~>T"IJ', .!: . ,- ~'\' . Don Meerians 'asked about paving the driveway and applicant replied the County said they will not have to pave the driveway. Also, it would cost too much, about $13,000, and the church does not have the money. .. 2 - ,k .',,' !" ". .,,' .,', . ,<', ':,J1 . '.l . < . ,. 1"1 ;. ~ .....'.,~~ '. 'F: .'....,: ';::'/;:' ,:'/,::.::~...' :"..:,':-:',:~::' :':"';':' ", ,/"""0.., /-, ~ Paula Harvey asked them to submit a new site plan as this is only a preli- minary site plan which is being considered by the County, and the City has no control over it until it is annexed into the City. Paul Rettig made motion to continue this until the next meeting on August 13th when all this information will be put on the Preliminary Site Plan. Seconded by Don Meerians and motion carried unanimously. Clearwater Apartments, Clearwater Associates; located at Keene Road and Palmetto Street. Community Impact Statement Dan Meerians and Art Kader had no comments. Ray Ayres had a question about the 5 apartments designed for the handicapped. Thinks the ratio should.be 5.6 and asked applicant to check the federal require- ments on this. Ms. Harvey aaid Planning will need a letter of compliance. George Buhmeyer and Chris Cowles had no comments. Paul Rettig said Hud tries to use natural gas service in all their projects and the architects should look into it. They will check it. .' '.;--'" . 'I' ,,__,C John Rooks said the sanitary sewer is" served by the Marshall St. Plant a.nd there are no problems at this time. We are going to need right-of-way dedica- tion on Palmetto, Keene and Long Streets. They know about this and-ttrer"Wiil d~ they are willing to provide right of way. Paula Harvey made motion to approve this impact statement subject to a letter of compliance being submitted to the City and that the developer look into the . availability of access to the site and the number of units for the handicapped. Motion passed unanimously. Preliminary Site Plan Don Meerians had no problems with the layout except they will have to include Borne dimensions on the parking lot, size of stalls, etc. Also they will need a waiver for s;dewalks on Keene and Palmetto or any other streets, to be sub.. mitted to ~uiiding Dept. and noted on the plan. Sidewa.lks will be needed unless a waiver is granted. Art Kader asked about a rc(.:reation building for the project and playground . equipment, and stated this would be good because of the community impact. Roy Ayres inquired about the handicapped parking spaces being located near the handicapped apartments and wheelchairs not having to go behind any parked cars. Applicant replied that all handicapped apartments will be on the ground floor and sidewalks will be alongside all parking spaces. - 3 .. ,~ '-', r) Paula Harvey made the following comments for the Planning Dept. : 1. Necd to show zoning on site plan. z. Need to show distances of buildings from adjacent lot lincs. on the 3. Need to show building heights in plan. 4. Need to indicate floor area or types of units. 5. Need to note the requirement of a maximum number of units per structure, 6 in a row. 6. If there are to be balconies or porches, they need to be shown on plan. 7. Need to show number of parking spaces and dimensions and their location. Mark handicapped spaces. 8. Need to show sidewalks. " " ....--, : :' C I \-' 9. Landscaping will be required to screen parking areas from abutting resi- dential zone. Also, landscaping along Palmetto &: Long Streets. I 10. . Where Ilproposed right-of-waylt is shown, language should be changed to read II I ROW to be dedicatedll, or just II I dedicated ROW". It is not,just proposed - it is required. . . t :~ ' r, \', :i " ,\,: 1,', : 11. There does not appear to be sufficient separation between Keene Rd. and the entrance of the service road. .~l.! :~ '; , .~/ . 12. Managerl s Office needs to be labeled as such. Some of the required parking should be located near the office. :,-.1' \\:~. . " .e., \",:" i,' ." , '. 13. The service road should extend all the way through the property. Creates a difficult problem in terms of traffic flow. ," ~ I " 1'""', , - \' ~. 14. This site plan shows little imagination in design. It appears there is a poor utilization of the space provided on the site. The location of'the buildings is such that each, one is very close to the abutting residential properties on the west. and yet a great deal of open space has been left on site. ".. ~, ~. : {r ,'. !I~;:: " ::." :' ", :\" r;/~ ' .1 . Further comments from Paula Harvey: t~\, i(.... '. ~, II As you are aware, the Planning Department has been 0'\'1:...11 supportive of the requested zoning change to acco:mmodate this project. The City Commie sion in ., approving the change in zoning did so with the confidence that a site plan would be submitted that in l:ermsof design would not offend the abutting reaidential properties and would not appear to be what has been visualized in the pas t as IIlow income" housing. ;:-. . "', r:<:',U>-- >, .l~: ' L~:I! I '. ~i~(: '.., ;;:'<,::c','. !:': .~'''.. ......l .. :J~J;;t":.~.' - 4 - ') - ~ As the plan is presented here, the Planning Department could no~ give a favorable recommendation to the City Commission for its approval. Although technically the plan meets tho requirements of the Code, we do not locI that the design is in the best interests of the adjacent properties and would, in lact, serve to create additional animosity toward the project should it be a.pproved in its present form. Paul Rettig said cutting aU the service road in the middle of the property will give Sanitation problems as far as the garbage trucks are concerned. Also, the ZOIl water main is not shown and Mr. Rettig wants to be assured that the. ZOIl main is in that ~tflt::t:u.. otherwise, we would request a new ~over . e semcnL c the water hne. ' George Buhmeyer recommended they tie each hydrant into the water line.aRQ t:lre-"'FiT'e'-B-ept;-ca'tI"" S t:: L Ul t:: 'irydrantB . Chris Cowles said we need a tree removal plan and more green space in the parking area - 4% of the total asphalt - and trees to be planted for solar energy buffers, etc. q ", L: . John Rooks conunents; Palmetto St. requires 3D' R!W dedication, Keene Rd. 501 R!W dedication, Long Street 3D' RW dedication. The access streets to serve this property on Palmetto St. and Long St. 'shall be paved to City stan.. .,' dards with curb and gutter. Need an ingress-egress or RW easement on Palmetto St. Engineering will look into the drainage ditch on Long Street. \::::.C) ., . i'.': c' 'c ' ;:~'.: . , . Motion made by Don Meerians, seconded by George Buhmeyer, that this plan be appl.oved subject to the foregoing concerns being put on the plan. Motion ',passed 5 for, 3 against. (Rettig, Harvey and Kader opposed). '1 . , ~: -' .1,.' ~ . ~i c . .ArHst':'in-Residence Program - Selection of a Site lor a Free-flowing Piece of Art constructed of Steel, 35 ft. high and 2.5 ft. x 2.3 ft. base. Hj - .Ji" \' ':::r,. ., I~. . '. .. . ~'".'~ . . Proposed Site 1. Edgewater Drive - Committee voted IIno" - traffic problems. 2. Countryside location - Should be considered - perhaps by the new fueling site. 3. Fire Station #2., Clearwater Beach Mandalay - OK in the park by the Fire Station ,if not an attractive nuisance. Not OK because it would be too close to the one on the Toll Bridge. 4. City Hall - Tennis Court area - No. 5. Sand Key - No. 6. Other Suggested Sites: Crest Lake Park Coachman Park New Library sites Old Employee Park on Courtney Campbell Pky. eas't of WPC Spoil Island in Bay .." .c , ' :1<,: .'c}, . \.i ' ~. ,", .' ~. ~:' ..'.... k' ; .: I' ~ . t1"',", .,' '';., c' ............ I."; ,', . J i>,'" '-./ ',. .' " c . I ~ . ., ~. :C:.', . q. , ~:f: . - 5 - '" . ".. \w~'>;,.::.< , :~',C\: . jtL ~::t;. . ...t;.-" . ~ii:'cO 'n". ~ . ~l.', "n- ;:f{.~ ~ ,; ~ c ~}~d:' : . ~\. ~ ,. . ;'.1 ,~ , :b~;'," t::~ . ~ /. ~ . ' .~:,>,l. : ' ~ . \~:;': )~~~,1 ~ ; ;; " I J . jf.t.r:{': ,', t. ~~~(: ',.~":c. '" ." . " ,I. . n . "I" f': , . . 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