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RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
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City of Clearwater, Florida
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. MEMBERS PRESENT
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Elizabeth S. Haeseker, Chairman
David P. Healey, .Planning Director
John Rooks, Civil Engineer I
Roy Ayres, Building Director
Donald A. Heerians, Assistant Director of Traffic Engineering
John Peddy. Energy Officer
Mike Campbell, Land Resources Specialist
Ream Wilson. Director of Parks & Recreation
George Buhmeyer, Fire Marshal
. Paul Rettig, Utilities Director
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OTHERS PRESENT
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:.' . John Corbet,. Cheezem Development
',... . Marshall Deason, Cheezem Development
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,. Donna Brooks,' Cheezem Development
. ... Ted Cobb, Cheezem Development
.;:,:,. .. . Mike B.enson, Cheezem Development
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:;....... J. B.. Grammatico, Masell Acres
'~~:: :..' Tony' Ales, Mosell Acres .
;X}..... Frank W. Bosworth. Placid Harbor
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:'~.;":.". The' meeting was called. to order by Chairman Raeseker at 10:07 AM in the Assistant City
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. Minutes' of RDC Meeting - July 25. 1980
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~~,:.... . MOtion 'was made by Mr. Wilson, seconded by Mr. Peddy) to approve the minutes of July 25,
(\:. '.1980, as. amended. Motion carried unanimously. (Mike Campbell stated that on page 5
;;:-. ... his statement should read: A CIS should be required in order to get information on the
impact of vegetation removal.)
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,~':>:'" ITEM #1 (Cont'd~. from July 25, 1980) - Sea Towers at Sand Key - Building III,
<.Cheezem Land C01:''P. - Located on Gulf side of Sand Key - CIS ~ Request for a {"aiver
.. Prior to.meeting with the applicants, Mr. Healey reviewed the determination by the City
::: Attorney concerning the City's position regarding requirement for a CIS as it relates
, . ..to the cour~ stipulated agreement in the Cheezem Development Corp. case. It is Mr. Bustin's
:::', " view that there is q.~thing in the language of the stipulated agreement that precludes the
,.. .'Resource Development Committee from requiring a CIS be submitted. A recommendation for
....waiver of the CIS is also entirely'at the Committee's discretion. (Cheezem Corp. re-
f).::.' ..:~ques~ed a copy of the City Attorney I s opinion.)
~:,\';:~..::.. . Concerning the site .plan, '~onsiderable discussion ensued as to whether a building plan
W;<:.:. ...~as .eyer submitted for Building No.4 inasmuch as the settlement agreement binds the
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Minutes of the Resource Dev pment Committee - AugUBt 15. 1 .0
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City to a specific Building No.4 on Site No.3. It wos the consensus of the Committee
that all locational requirements of the original site plan should be reflected on the
current submission.
Applicants were introduced and Mr. Healey reviewed the City Attorney's opinion for the
applicant.
Community Impact Statement
John Rooks discussed written comments which are attached and were presented at the meeting
of July 25, 1980. He felt that the building should match the original plan and that a
statement is definitely needed.
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John Peddy stated that the proposed building will deny certain solar access to buildings
located on adjacent site and that the City has an obligation to inform the prospective
pu~chaser9 of the fact they will be in the shade during certain portions of che day.
Further, he requested a shadowcast drawing be made uing December 21 and June 21 and that
the 8 and 10 AM and 2 and 4 PM times be plotted on a graph.
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Don Meerians expressed ~oncern re gatehouse location and the island that extends beyond
the right-of.way.
Roy Avres requested the applicant state for the record why he believed a waiver was in
order. John Corbet cited letter requesting waiver to Dave Healey.
Mike Campbell stated that certain sections of the CIS are required; e. g., natural en-
vironment and the impact that the development will have on iti developer.s statement,
regarding how it will be mitigated.
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George Buhmeyer - No comments.
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Dave Healey suggested that, rather than require a complete CIS, perhaps a simple memo
.describing items of importance to the Energy Officer, pertinent engineering questions
. and. on-site environmental considerations, such as vegetation, water quality, etc. would
.sa~isfy ~oncerns and could be made a part of the public record.
.Motion was made by Mr. Healey, seconded by Mr. Ayres, that the CIS be waived for Sea
,Towers Building No.. 3 with. the exception of the items pertaining to architecture, as
expanded upon by Mr. Peddy, and the natural environment, including vegetation and water
quality, and that those items be submitted for review and approval by the appropriate
staff members, to be forwarded to the Commission with the site plan. Motion carried
unanimous ly .
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-Preliminary Site Plan
Dave Healey stated he had taken the original master plan, scaled Building No.4 and its
proposed location on Site No. 3 and discovered the following discrepancies: (1) S-ft.
difference in the separation distance between the building to the south; (2) 5-ft.
difference in building depth; (3) 5-ft. difference in the setback distance from the
seawall; and (4) la-ft. difference in setback from the front property line. Further,
he stated the original plan shows no access or gatehouse for this building. Setbacks
and outside dimensions need to conform as closely as possible and not exceed dimensions
of. Buildirlg No.4. Mr. Corbet stated the basic intent was to physically locate the
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building essentially where the original bUilding was planned, and the only difference
was changing them to be equidistant from the two adjoining buildings.
Messrs. Peddy and Wilson - No comments.
Paul Rettig expressed concern re placement of ~ater meters and dumpsters and requested
applicant to coordinate with the Sanitation Dept. Regarding on-site hydrants, City needs
easements to ensure acc~ss to them for maintenance. Further, Mr. Rettig stated that if
there is an alarm system tied into the Fire Department, a detector check will not be required.
RoV Avres requested that handicapped parking spaces be designated on the plan and that
the sidewalks also be indicated on the plan that goes forward to the City Commission.
Geor~e Buhmever stated the original plans show on-site hydrants but they were not
installed and stated they must be located as originally shown. Further, a letter was
written to Mr. Buhmeyer from Mr. Miller stating hydrants would be on the site.
Mr. Buhmeyer felt that the hydrant at the gatehouse might have to be relocated.,
Mike Campbell stated no comment relative to vegetation as there was no tree survey pro-
vided.
John Rooks discussed written comments which are attached and were presented at the
meeting of July 25, 1980. He stated storm water retention will he required consistent
with the present requirements.
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Don Meerians stated parking appears adequate and inquired if any problems had arisen con-
cerning the gatehouse already constructed at the building to the south. He stated a
portion of the median proposed around the gatehouse extends into the public right-af-way
which can cause a liability problem and he would like to reserve the right to make ad-
justments relative to the drive. Concerning parking spaces, he felt maneuverability
and site distance was a problem with some of the spaces. Mr. Corbet replied that
parking is seldom a problem but he would investigate possible changes to the access.
Motion was made by Mr. Healey, seconded by Mr. Rettig, to continue consideration of the
site plan subject to the following: (1) determination by the City of the dimensions
of Building No.4 as originally submitted and its relationship to site plan as submitted;
(2) tree survey whereby Forester can evaluate tree removal; (3) reconsideration of
the entry/exit .arrangement so as to detail acceleration and deceleration lanes, location
of median in public right-of-way and the propriety of the gatehouse being located in
the waterfront vista; (4) designation on site plan af preliminary location of on-site
retention area; (5) identification of sidewalk location and handicapped parking spacesj
and (6) identification of required on~site hydrants and appropriate .means of assuring
access for maintenance. Motion carried unanimously.
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ITEM #2 - Lots 2 & 3, Mosell Acres, Master Key Properties, Inc. -
Located on Drew St. west of Belcher Road - Lot Division
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Dsve Healey presented the background of subject property and the request to waive sub-
division platting requirements and to approve subdivision platted lots without re-
platting. In the course of Mr. Ales' applying for a variance of driveway and parking
requirements~ it was discovered that the property had been divided in viola.tion of the
Subdivision Ordinance. There is also a discrepancy between the Land Use Plan and zoning.
Land Use Plan amendment was approved by the City Commission from residential to commercial
classification but reclassification was denied by the Pinellas Planning Council and was
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therefore not enacted. Mr. G~ammatico stated that platting is a
involve going back to the original seller, realtor Dave Edmunds.
of Parcels A through F, stating that. each individual possesses a
major problem and would
He identified owners
deed.
Messrs. PeddYl Buhmeyer. Campbell, Wilson and Meerians - No comments.
John Rooks stated that. according to survey laws, once a lot is platted, it can be sub-
divided. If any zoning laws are violated, perhaps a CIS should be requested. He in-
quired if an easement could be dedicated to assure access to the property.
Paul Retti~ expressed concern about the difference between zoning and the Land Use Plan
and its implication regarding the land-locked parcel with respect to utilities and the
easements between parcels.
Mike Campbell expressed the opinion that an ordinance shouH be enforced whether it is
before or after the fact.
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Motion was made by Mr. Healey, seconded by Mr. Peddy, to recommend denial of request for
. waiver of subdivision platting requirements, with the provision that Parcel F be con-
sidered eligible for the application of a building permit prior to carrying out sub-
division process. Motion failed 2-7.
Motion was then made by Mr. Rooks, seconded by Mr. Rettig, that a CIS be required for
Parcel D at the time of any development, excluding platting of area.
Amendment to the motion was made by Mr. Healey, seconded by Mr. Buhmeyer, to recognize
that the Committee is recommending that the City Commission waive t~e requirements for
subdivision platting and approve redivision of lots as reflected on the applicant's
drawing. Upon vote being taken, amendment passed unanimously and the main motion carried
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ITEM #3 Placid Harbor Condominium, Lot 13 & Northerly 23.5 ft. of Lot 12, Unit 2,
Island Estates, Windwood II Development - Located on the east side of Island Way just
north of Dory PassaRe
Messrs. Buhmeyer. Rooks. Wilson and Meerians - No comments.
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John peddt suggested high intensity lighting be used in all outdoor and under-garage
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Mike Campbell noted water quality was not discussed. Further, Karen Wilson, Water
.Resources Specialist, would like to have a statement on this item submitted so that
her coaunents may, go forward to the City Commission.
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Roy Ayres noted typographical error on page 9, 2nd paragraph, regarding numbering of
items.
Paul RettiR inquired if units will be individually metered as shown and Mr. Bosworth
stated this is an 'error as there will be only one water meter.
Motion was made by Mr. Healey, seconded by Mr. Campbell, that the CIS be approved subject
to addendum which would identify corrections and additions requested. Motion carried
unanimously.
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Preliminary Site Plan'
Mr. Reale! gave background and stated the property 1s proposed to be rezoned to RM-20.
Developer has volunteered to adjust the density. He pointed out the following:
(1) parking ratio 1s 2 - 1 as opposed to 1 1/2 - 1 ratio and suggested elimination of
4 parking spaces; and (2) pool is crowded between the seswall and building in a less-than-
desirable arrangement; he questioned whether this parcel was being, or had been divided
from parcel to the south. Mr. Bosworth stated it is 7.67 ft. to nearest point (on south
side of parcel) and 7.8 ft. to building on opposite side. Land had not been subdivided,
leaving less than required.
John Rooks emphasized that anything built closer than 18 ft. to seawall must be designed
by an. engineer.
Paul Rettig inquired re location of dumpster and stated the applicant should coordinate
with .Sanitation Dept. concerning placement. Water meter should be located in the public
right-of-way and a I 1/2.inch water meter is recommended.
John Peddy asked if, pool was. to be heated and the reply was I'no." Mr. Peddy informed the
Resource Development Committee that if the pool could be shifted more to the Bouth, it
.. would aid in retaining more heat for the pool.
Roy Ayres shared Mr. Healey's comments concerning the pool location.
Geor~e Buhmeyer stated no refuse chute is shown and that absence of one creates problem
with material being left in hallways. Mr. Bosworth stated he will investigate the
situation.
Mike Campbell stated plant material placed in swale should meet landscaping code and
will need to be taller to make up for the depression. It should be measured from the
adjoining parking elevation. An area will need to be supplied to place the required
landscaping separating the parking area.
John Rooks inquired if the retention area can be shallowed so that it will not be so
noticeable. He stated the swale is a good design.
. Ream. Wi laan - No comments.
Don Meerians stated he assumed parking space under building will have a clear width of
9 ft. Suggested removing inside radii from access, egress drive respectively, em-
phasizing their one-way arrangement.
Motion was made by Mr. Campbell, seconded by Mr. Peddy, to approve the site plan as
submitted, with 4 parking spaces being eliminated, the changed pool location and recon-
figuration of. the drainage retention area. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Bosworth
stated he would forward the plan, a8 revised, for Commission consideration.
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Review of Downtown DeveloQment Ordinance
Copies of proposed Downtown Development Ordinance had been distributed to Committee
members prior to the meeting.
George Buhmeyer expressed concern with alleys in the event they would be vacated relative
to fire fighting access.
Mike Campbell inquired what effectthis would have on the landscape ordinance. He could
find no reference in ~ection dealing with off~street parking. Mr. Healey replied it would
have no effect. The otherwise applicable landscape requirements would apply. Mr. Campbell
then inquired as to the reason why blood plasma centers are prohibited in the proposed
ordinance and was informed the present .facilities are less than desirable and often in-
volve unwanted and unsightly materials being disposed of on the street. Mr. Campbell
objected to this provision.
John Rooks inquired if proposed ordinance increases the number 9f units and if there is
a limit. He expressed concern relative to utility systems in downtown not being adequate
to handle demand as there is a saturation point where the City can't provide adequate
waters sewer, storm water retention, etc. He was infovmed there is no density limit in
the core area; others were as noted for eastern corridor and bayfront areas. Max Battle
is preparing a procedure for consideration whereby there would be an impact fee in lieu
of drainage retention.
Ream Wilson stated parks are already dedicated and questioned whether there would be much
of an impact on parks. Discussion ensued relative to park and open space areas.
Don Meerians inquired if a business were destroyed or damaged, could owner rebuild without
providing parking and, in that event, should there not be a time limit on rebuilding?
Mr. Meerians stated Keith Crawford had expressed concern with the count of available
spaces being accurate. In light of Keith's earlier comments, Mr Healey stated this
portion had been rewritten to provide for a more flexible arrangement.
Paul RecUR stated that Mr.... Rooks ..had addressed his concerns relative to the capacity of
utility systems.
'John Peddy stated he would like to see a statement on energy use concerning outdoor
11gh ting .
Mik~ Campbell inquired if ordinance addresses dual land uses and was informed that it
does, including formula for computation of density.
RoV Ayres stated the redraft has addressed his earlier concerns. relative to uncertainties
of the permitting process.
Chairman Raeseker indicated comments would be forwarded to the City Manager.
Meeting adjourned at 1:20 PM.
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