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City of Clearwater, Florida
RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
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MEMBERS PRESENT:
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Elizabeth S. Haeseker. Clairman
Roy J. Ayres, Building Inspection Director
Cecil M. Henderson. Assistant Director of Public Works
Michael Kenton, Assistant Director of Public Works/Environmental
Ream Wilson. Parks and Recreation Djrector
Paul Rettig. Utilities Director
Don Meerians, Assistant Traffic Engineer
George Buhmeyer, Fire Marshal
John T. Peddy, Energy Officer
John Richter, Senior Planner
ABSENT: Michael Campbell, Land ResouJ:cesSpecialist
OTHERS PRESENT:
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Karen Wilson, Water Resources Specialist
Carl E. Gilmore, C. Fred Deuel and Associates
Ray Kutz, Caudell-Gaylor
Mike Gaylor, Caudell-Gaylor
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Haeseker at 10:20 a.m. in
the Operations Center Conference Room.
The minutes of the special meeting of April 4, 1980. were reviewed.
The Chairman moved to approve as amended. Motion was seconded and car-
ried unanimously.
Abstentions in voting were discussed. The Chairman asserted that aye,
nay and abstention votes all are important.
1. Clearwater Community Church, located on the west side of Landmark
Drive, 150 feet south of S.R. 580.
Prel~inary Site Plan:
Roy Ayres - sidewalk is fine. Not certain there is enough information to
evaluate parking. Asked if building would be an auditorium.
Carl Gilmore - Would be a Sunday services-type building.
Roy Ayrea - discussed parking requirements. 21 spaces with 4 for adminis-'
tration leaves 17 spaces. Total of 68 seats--based on 510 square feet of
meeting area. Mr. Gilmore said that they hope to expand the operation later
ancJ'add parking at that time.
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Hr. Ayres said the City requires thut parking be reviewed as part of per-
mitting process and that developer meet parking requirements and handi-
capped requirements.
John Richter - discussed parking. Computed that 80 spaces would be
required. If grass will be uscd for parking, it should be delineated on
the plans. Code requirements ro overflow on grass should be met. Land-
scape buffers needed on the west and Bouth property lines since they border
on residential property. Landscape plan to be submitted to and apprQved
by Mike Campbell. The $150.00 application fee is to be paid.
Don Meerians - asked why road is looped up. Mr. Gilmo.re responded that the
44' drainage utility easement on map is in use--to avoid drainage problems.
He also said that the road is shifted to the south to avoid using space
which might be in area of future development. Road location was discussed
at greater length.
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Karen Wilson asked if drainage running from graded portion of the parking lot
and the building will run into the retention pond. Mr. Gilmore answered
that it would not. Additionally, drainage runs toward front and there will
be some runoff from adjacent property. Grass parking will provide grass
filtration. Outfall and percolation rate were discussed. The percolation
rate, according to the Pinellas County Soil Survey, indicates an excess of
20" per hour.
Cecil Henderson
submitted written comments which are attached.
George Buhmeyer - fire hydrant will be required at e~ curve.
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extend a 6-inch water line. Meter could be set back. Mr. Gilmore indicated
that he will give the City an easement for fire hydrant.
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John Peddy - suggests exterior lighting be of the sodium type. Since there
would be little use of property at night, he suggests they consider an
ice-bank type system which reduces energy demand.
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MOTION - John Richter moved to approve the PSP for Clearwater Community
Church subject to the following conditions: delination of parking and Code
requirements re land~caping. be met; $150.00 application fee be paid prior
to City Commission consideration; parking and interior circulation be
reviewed with Traffic Engineering; the fire hydrant as requested by George
Buhmeyer be provided and water main easements be given. Ream Wilson seconded
the motion which carried unanimously. .
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2. George Hunt Property - Corner of Drew Street and Belcher Road.
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Preliminary Site Plan:
Chairman Haeseker announced that this is an agreement to annex and will be "
builtin the County and that property cannot be annexed at this time as it
is in an enclave.
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Roy Ayres stilted 011 inspections will be done by the County.
Chairman said thot when the developer gets utility service letter from the
City, they will be required to pay sewer tap feos.
John Richter - according to his calcu1ntionst parking requirements are
being met. Three off-street loading spaces must be provided.
Don Meerians - re access points on the out parcelj does not want these near
the intersection. Mike Gaylor said the access will go to adjacent bank
property.
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Mr. Neerians said the radius extending beyond the property line could be a
problem if the adjacent property owner builds. Mr. Kutz stated the it would
become a dedicated right-of-way. They are giving 50 feet of right-of-way to
Pine lIas County. In answer to a question from Mr. Meerianst Mr. Kutz said
it would become a City street.
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Paul Rettig - how many stories high. Mr. Gaylor - some will be 2 stories with
parking underneath. Single-story buildings will have adjacent parking.
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Cecil Henderson reported that(City Engineer Max Battle approves interior
parking~ Property is in County and being developed according to County stand-
ards. The developers are at the ROC meeting because they need utilities
service from the City. It is a compromise arrangement. They are putting inl
a 30-foot street even though County requirements are for only 24 feet.
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Mr. Kutz added that City has requested control of streets because of Library
and City wants to control access.
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Chairman explained situation--what property the City is acquiring and the
cross-easement parking agreement with the church. The exchange involves
Hunt and Church properties.
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John Richter asked why streets are on both sides. The Chairman stated it is
better to have City take care of property surrounding City property.
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Karen Wilson understands that pond's shape will be different than that dipicted
on the plan. Mr. Kutz confirmed Ms. Wilson's understanding. Ms. Wilson stated
the City has specific guidelines and design criteria for wet ponds from an
environmental quality standpoint. Stressed that Mr. Kutz and Mr. Gaylor meet
with Environmental Management before final specs are completed. Wet pond
would have water quality and maintenance problems a dry pond would not have.
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Mr. Kutz stated the pond is dipicted at its highest level and Mr. Gaylor added
that it is similar to the pond at Belcher Road and Gulf-to-Bay Boulevard. He
and Mr. Kutz agreed to meet with Karen Wilson. Mr. Kutz requested a copy of
regulations r~ design.criteria and Ms. Wilson informed him there is no written
policYt however, she will give them design criteria.
Cecil Henderson aubmit~ed written comments which are attached. Subject to
limited sewer moratorium which allows approval of no more than 4 units at one
time. 'May be able to arrange something with a sand filter system.
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Mr. Kutz understood that when the sewer line was extended across the property
to serve the church, an agreement was entered into that they would have capa-
city at such time property waa determined to come in. They granted an cose-
ment to put the sewer in. The easement has never been legally recorded. An
agreement was entered into that no retention would be required for corner of
Drew Street and Belcher Road. The Chairman requested a copy of the agreement.
Mr. Henderson would prefer that the developer get a copy of City street specs
and meet City requirements. Mr. Gaylor will comply with this request and
said County catch basins would be n little different than City's.
Paul Rettig re water aervice--if main building, the building would be on a
meter; if separate offices; separate meters. City will not provide garbage
pickup in the County. Natural gas is available.
George Buhrneyer located 4 fire hydrants and informed the developers where he
wants the fire hydrants to be located.
John Peddy had no comments.
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Ream Wilson asked about parkland dedication. The Chairman informed him that
the parkland dedication has been handled. She will show Mr. Wilson the agree-
ment the City is making with George Hunt.
Karen Wilson said Mr. Kutz has told her that the individual ownera will be main-
taining the lake--historically this means that the lake will not be maintained.
The Chairman pointed out that the Lot Mowing Ordinance would handle this. Ms.
Wilson emphasized that proper design is even more important if one person is
not responsible for maintenance.
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Mr. Henderson gave M:i,ke Campbell's input--at the end of the lake is a tree;
lake should be designed so tree is not affected. Mr. Gaylor reiterated that
the lake is dcpict~J at the high water level.
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Paul Rettig mentioned that there is a 25% surcharge on water and sewer when
property is located in Pinellas County.
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Mr. Richter stated that a mo~e desirable design would decrease the amount of
public right-of-way and have standard 60-foot streets and standard radius.
Mr. Meerians asked how a street could end at an out parcel that will be a bank
and the Chairman informed him that the County would handle.
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MOTION - Cecil Henderson moved to advise the City Manager that the ROC has
carefully reviewed the Hunt Property site plan for development of George Hunt's
project and has advised the developer of the ROC concerns and items that they
feel he should consider in the development of the project, and specifically,
the Committee requests that he work with the City to protect the water quality
environment, that he construct streets to City standards and that the streets
are to be dedicated to the City at some future time, provide any easements
necessary for the utility systems as required by the Utilities Department and
that City requirements for interior landscaping be met. Paul Rettig seconded
the motion. Motion carried with two opposing votes. The remainder of the
Committed voted in fav~r.
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The Chairman announced that comments re the Downtown
. Ordinance would be due by the the next ROC meeting.
to. write her with their comments on Lot Coverage.
Development Zoning
Also, watits membe'ts
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Dj,BcuBsion ensued on reviewing agreements to annex. The Committee. not
clear: on purpose. A suggestion was made that when agreements are being
processed, that administration receive input from ROC members prior to
completion of agreement on property of one acre or more.
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Chairman said this suggestion could be put into action based on the assump-
tion that the developer has Bome idea of what they will be doing. Pointed
out that certain things must be done according to City Code and can be in-
corporated into. agreement.
Meeting adjourned at 11:45 a.m.
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