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RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
City of Clcarwat er, Flori da
June 22, 1979
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MEMBERS PRESENT:
Elizabeth Haeseker, Chai rman
Paul Rettig, Utilities Direct or
Davi d Heal ey, Planning Direct or
Mike Kent on, Envi ronment al Flanne r
Mike. Campbell, Land Resources Specialist
Ream Wilson, Parks & Recreat ion Direct or
George Buhmeyer, Fire Marshal
Roy Ayres, Bui Idi ng Direct or "
Don Meerians, Assistant Traffic Engineer
Terry Jennings, Civil Engineer
MEMBERS' ABSENT:
Don Alexander, Citizen - Excused
Albert Rogers, Citben
OTHERS PRESENT:
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Ed Ma~ur, Represent ing U. S. Home Corporat ion and Ameri can
Condominium Corporation
Russ ZLmmer man, Rep:resent ing U. S. Home Corporat ion
, Ernest Smith AIA; . The Desi gn AdvDcat es / U. S. Home Corporat ion
Alan Bartlett, R.epresent Lng Rut enberg Homes
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The meet ing was called to order by Chai rman Haeseker at
10:10 a. m., in the Operations Cent er Coni crence Room, City
Hall Annex.
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1. Approval of June 8, 1979, Minut es. Mike Kent on moved to
approve" minut es of June 8, 1979, as amended. The mot ion was
seconded and carried unanimously.
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The Chai rman announced that Mr. Alexander v.wld not be present
as hi a wife had just returned from the hoapi tal.
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z. (Cont inued) Coachman Road Condomini unlS2 American
Condominium Corporation (OwnerUocated on Coachman Road
just w;eot of U.S. Highway 19 North. PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.
Del ayed as represent at Ive was not yet present.
3. Tract 16. Count ryei de. U. S. Home CO:l;"Porat Ion (Owner);
locat ed on the east s1 de of Count rysi de Boul evard. PRELIMINARY
SI'I'E PLAN:
George Buhmever asse rt ed that he at ill had a concern.
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Ed Mazur sai d he had looked at the let ter from the Fire Depart ment
and the wat er main cannot be 6" and stIll meet the requi rement.
However~ they will deal with thi B. Also. Tract B 16 and 67 are the
same in thi s respect. There woul d have to be an 811-1oop and an
8". wat er main through the proj ect. The fire hydrant has been
l"e1 oeat ed on the new s1 te pl an.
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Mr. Buhmeyer concluded that thi 8 a:rrangement is sat is! act ory
to him.
Terry Jennings read Engineering's concerns and requirements into
the record,(attached). U. S. Home will campI y.
Ream Wilson had nm.comment s.
Don Meeri ans suggest ed de-veloper have at least two vehi cl e st orage
at the access. as dri veway can be blocked as one car tri es to ent ex
and anot her attempt s to make a left-hand turn. Thi s v.o ul d be dl f-
ficult with the 401 widt h and he waul d like for dri veway to be at
least 50.. Mr. Meeri ana added that thi 8 prahl em caul d be adj uet ed
in some way and that the probl em woul d not hi nder app:roval of the
si te pI an. U. S. Home needs to adequa.t el y st ore two vehi cl es.
Mr. Mazur repl ied that they woul d do what they coul d.
Dave Healey had no conunent.
Mike Kent on request ed drawings of the cone ret e wall and U. S. Home
presented him with pictures of a similar wall. Mr. Ernest Smith
thi nks that when garages face the st reet a buffer of Borne ki nd is
very import ant. 'U. S.H"une,v.on:1': have berms against the wall.
Mr. Kenton said pictures could be misrepresentative. He would
like the wall to be broken up by berms and landscaping. Mr.
Heal ey poi nt ed out there is a wat er line where wall woul d be.
Paul Rettig asked if the developer was gei ng to put 5 feet of soi 1 on
top of the water line.
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Mr. Ernest Smlth an Bwercd that they woul d use landscapl ng whore the
wat er Ilpe Is; elsewhere they woul d use fenc1 ng. Mr. Ret tig sal d
the wat er l1ne is at most parallel to tho fence and request ed the
developer put the berm on the road si de.
Mr. Kent on sa! d the obj ect lve is to BC reen the build! ngs and it can
be done with a combi nat Ion of 01 ement B. He di d not want to allow
the pI an to 1 eave the meet ing as is.
Russ Zimmerman suggest cd that an approprl at e act ion waul d be to
have a requIrement that they get approval of berm and fencing det ail s.
Mr. Kenton suggested U.S. Home consider rezoning to BM..12 as there
1 s no reason for it to remai n at RM..24. Mr. Heal ey added that the
City waul d lni tiat e rezoni ng if the developer docsn't and informed Mr.
Smith that U.S. Home could put only 6, rather than 8, units in a row.
By law the propert y must be zoned per ita use. Mr. Healoy request cd
that Mr. Smith comment on building height s, as they were shown
di fie rent I y from the way he woul d comput e them. Bas ed on shown hel ght s,
the bui ldi ng separat ion di st ancee di d not meet City requ1 rement s.
Mr. Smith answered that the buildings were 1 and 2-story townhouse units;
and the maj 01'1 ty would have garages with flat roof s. U. S. Home waul d keep
a minimum of 20 feet between uni ts and would take an average of the
uni t height and the di st ance between the 2 buildi nga to meet code 1"equi re-
ment s.
Mr. Mazur not iced that the Committee at ill had 01 d pI ans and report ed
that new set s of pI ans had been taken to the Planning Depart ment on
June Zl~ 1979. Some units had been flipped, the modells location was
chang ed and the number of uni ts was unchang ed.
Mr. Rettig asked how proj ect woul d be met ered for wat e1". It would ,be
be~terif 'buildings were metered per unit. U.S. Home replied that
they would met er per uni t for wat er. Garbage will be per uni t al so.
Mr. Rettig added that the developer would need to put the water main
down the middl e and U. S. Home lndi cat ed that they woul d campI y.
ROt Avres had no comment s.
George Buhmeye:r st at cd, for the record, that the pi an had a 6-i nch wat er
I me--i t must be an" 8-i nch line.
Mike Campbell had no comment.
Mr. Heal ey q ueri ed as to whet her U. S. Home was coni ident that they
coul d come so close to the lake with Borne. part icul arl y the "GIl, uni ts.
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u. S. Home point ad out that the lake was an abst ract Ion on the site pI an.
Also, wood decks woul d reach out to the lake. Mr. Heal ey sa! d tho
c rowdl ng of \1ni to had blocked the vi ow aloog the lake and U. S. Home
answered that they woul d take thl s occu:rence Into conal derat Ion.
Chal rman informed U.S. Home of the Northeast Sewage Plant MoratorIum.
Mr. Mazur sal d that U. S. Home woul d use Dyna-Ilo and that the Dapa rt ment
of Envl ronment al Regul at Ion had approved the permits 6 mont he ago.
I Mike Kent on moved to approve the preliminary site pI an for Tract 16,
Count ryside, cont ingent on approval of the fend ng (6..foot designation
to be removed) and landscapi ng by the Planni ng Depart ment; on 8-inch
wat er mal n bel ng dep! ct ed (Fire Depart ment to approve); and on
del ivery of easement a, and, if possl hI e, revielons to the Count rye! de
Dri ve access. Mr. Rettig seconded the mot ion whl ch carri ed unani mousl y.
4. Tract 67" Count ryside, U. S. Home Corporat ion (Owner); locat cd on
the west side of Landmark Drive. PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.
Ream Wilson had no remarks.
Roy Ayms had no cOlI1ment s.
Terry Jennings - Engineering's comment s are attached. U. S. Home
will compl y.
George Bulunever sai d the wat er mal n shoul d be 8-inches and it was
shown on the pI an as a 6 -inch line. Quest ioned what U. S. Home woul d
do about the 6-inch wat er main under Landmark Drive. Mr. Mazur
asked if U. S. Home could 1eav:e the one pi ace of 6...inch 'wat er line
and Mr. Buhmeyer ane.wered that he thought it waul d be necessary to
do so. The remai ni ng line is to be 8-inches. Mr. Mazur indicat ed
he was in agreement. Mr. Buhmey~r said fire hydrants were acceptable.
Mike Campbell at at ed that on the sout hern tip of the tract the eueal ypt us
trees are to be removed. He al so sai d that several pi ne: trees appeared
to be in the nort h di tch that U. S. Home pI anned to fill in and U~ S . Home
said they would save the pi nes. In answer to a query from Mr. Campbell,
the ,developer said they would work any way they could to save trees.
Mike Kenton said he had the same concern re the wall as he did on
Tract 16.
. Paul Ret tig asked if there waul d be indi vi dual wat er met ers. U. S.. Home
answered that there would. Also, Mr. Rettig queried if the diameter
of the wat e r mai n c oonect ion on the no rt h end waul d be chang ed to
8 inches. Mr. Mazur answered that he believed that the 6-i nch gat e
val ve caul d handl e the wat ere Mr. Rettig concl uded that if the 6-i nch
val va worked out' it would be accept:abl e to hi m. ~,
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Mr. Mazur added that u. S. Home waul d have soparat c wat or
meters and separate garbage pickMup.,
Dave Heal ey had no comment s.
Don Mecri ans asked what the small" 3D..! oat radi us next to Tract 55,
was. He was in! armed that the rad! us was the garbage pi ck-up area.
Dave Healey moved that the preliminary site plan for Tract 67, COWlt ry-
s1 de, be approved cont ingent on Plannl ng Depart ment approval of the
fencing (6-foot designation to be removed) and landscaping; and delivery
or" the appropri at e easements. The mot ion was seconded by Mr.
~eerians and carried unanimously.
The Chai rman point ed out to U. S. Home that the sewer waul d go to the
Northeast Treatment Plant. Mr. Mazur asked if the sewage could be
trucked. The Committee did not know. Mr. Mazur said that trucking
t he sewage was accept abl e to the Depart ment of Envi ronment al Regul ation
and a letter from Max Bat tie, Direct or of Public Works_ expl ai ned that
when U.S. Home put the houses in there were no sewer hook-ups.
Chat rman asked U. S. Home if they were fully aware of the probl ems
with the Nort heast Sewage Plant and that the si tuat ion was not resolved.
Also" they waul d ha.ve to go to the Bui Iding Permit Revi ew Committee.
Mr.. Ayres said the buildings could be completed, but not occupied.
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5. Villas of Sunset Groves; Cameron-Brown Company ~Owner); locat ed
on the sout heast corner of Sunset Poi nt Road and Hercul es Avenue (To
be continued). COMM'UN1Ty IMPACT STATEMENT and PRELIMINARY
SITE PLAN. .
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Don Meeri ans report ed that he had di scovered a letter to Lee Dori an
from Mike Paroby re a mutual agreement between the City and Dari an
Housing Corporation_ that Dorian Housing Corporation would install
sidewal ks bef ore st art ing development of the next phase. The si dewal ks
were to be campI et ed on or bef ore any foundat ion inspect ion. He
suggest ed current develope r be informed. The Chai rman request ed a
copy of the letter.
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Mike Kent on moved to cont inue the communi ty impact at at ement and
the preliminary ai te pI an Ior Villas of Sunset Groves to the RDC meet ing
of July 13" 1979. Motion was seconded and carried unanimously.
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The Committee then returned to item 2.
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2. (Continued) Coa.chman Road. Condominiums, American Condominium
Corporation (Owner); locat ed on NE. C oachrran, Rd._ just west of U. s.
. H~hwav 19 North. .PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.
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,Ed Ma,zJ:!!, report ed that the lake eas'ement of a port ion of the lake
was bel ng changed to a rccrcnt Ion casement of the whole lake.
Chal rman sal d there was a probl em in that the City dl d not have all
. amendments to the community impact at at cment . Mr. Mazur replied
that only one had not been submLttcd. Mr. Kent on pol nt cd out that
the approval was cont lngent on subm.ittal of the amendments.
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Mike Campbell had no comment s.
Geor<<e Buhmeycr had no comment 8.
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Terrv JenninJ{8 gave Engineeri ngls comment 8 (attached). He di Bcussed the,
10<;:atlon of the FlorI do. Power right of way and that an casement apparent Iy
goes into it. Mr. Mazur said the lake goes into Florida Power's rIght
'of way. Mr. Jennings assumed, correctly. that the raquetball courts
are of di fie rent ownershi p. Since the sewer goes through 2 or 3 ot her
parcel s of land, easement s for sewer and wat er lines a.re needed. The
developer may put the proposed di tch on the east port ion of the propert y.
Mr. Mazur indl cat ed that they woul d be get ting eaBe~ nt s from Clear...
wat er Federal Savings and Loan.
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The Chai rman said DeWel."S would go to the Northeast Treatment Plant.
Mike Kent on at at ed that he had a st at ement on the CIS revi si on that
the develop er woul d compI y with the e roai on cont 1.'01 .
Roy Ayres had no remarks.
Ream',Wilson said the revised siteplan depicts a park of 2.27 acres
a8 was di s cus sed at the June 8, 1979. RDC Meet i ng. The Cityl s
. int e'rest was to gal n land pi us owne rshi p of the lake to the sout h
(Moccasin Lake) of the finger and a recreation easement over the
re.mal nder of. the lake. The City woul d al so like to acqui 1.'e money
to be used for Moccasi n Lake Park. If the City were to accept 2. 27
acres, the cash danat ion woul d be $4.132.00, which would be less cash
'than Mr. Wilson wanted.
Mr. Wilson observed that, past the 20 el evation line, it appeared that
the land was in the mapl e swamp. lMr. Mazur answered that he
believed that land was not in the mapl e swamp and he would delet e
any land that was.
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Mr. Wilson said i.f 18/l0Qths of an acre were eliminated. the dedication
woul d then be 2.085 ac res of land with a cash donat ion of $8,685. 00.
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Mr. Wl1son made a mot ion ro park dedi cat ion that City accept Z.085
acres of land with the ramal nder to he cash. Mike Campbell vot cd ,:
"nay" wIth the romalndc r of the Committee vot Ing 'aye. II Mot Ion carri cd.
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Mr. Wilson sal d the City Vwtluld have ownc rsMp of the casement half
of the lake, Bout h of the finger, spelled out anel a rccreat ion casement
on the entire lake. He; Norman Seher, City Right or Way Agent; and
Ed Mazur will worll: out.
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Mike Kent on assert ed that the developer dl d not show an casement
on the west s1 de of the lake and he had asked Mr. Mazur to have
site plan reflect the easer.nent.
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. Don Meeri ana want ed to desi gn adj ust mont s NE Coachman Road, with
cost of' the adj uet ment s being pai d by the developer. Ameri can
Condomini urn Corporation was agreeable.
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Paul Rettig sai. d' he : requi red. B,epa~at,ely' i:. met ered buildi ngs and then
asked what the garbage ax rang ement s woul d be. Mr. Mazur inf armed
hi mthat they waul d use dumpst ers for the garbage. Mr. Rettig
're,quest ed that the developer meet with the Sani tation Depart ment for
the locat ion of the dumpst er and he als a reminded the develope r that
theywoold have to get an easement fox the wat er main from the
'adj ,acent pxoperty owners. There is a 6-inch line to serve adj acent
property and if Ed Mazur could get easements from them, perh~ps
the developer, could tie-in the re.
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Mr. Ret"tig al so not cd that. the developer had a -inch mai ns on the 8i te
plan; all the water mains need not be a-inches as 6-inches would
be adequat e for some of. them. Utility easement s woul d be necessary.
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Mike Kenton moved to approve the . amended 8i te plan for Coachman
. Road Condomini ums. Don Meeri ans seconded the mot ion whi ch carr! ed
unanimousl y.
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Meet ing was adj ourned at 11:20 a. m.
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