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RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
City o! Clearwater, Florida
December Z2, 1978
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Members Present:
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Betty'Haeseker, Assis'tant to the City Ma.nager
'Syd Snair, Zoning Enforcement Officer, Building Department
R'eam Wilson, Parks &: Recreation Director
George Buhmeyer, Fire Marshal, Fire Department
Mike Campbell, ,Land Resources Specialist, Planning Department
Don Meerians, Assistant Traffic Engineer
,Paul Rettig" UtiJities Director
David Healey, Planning Director
. 'Cecil Handa rSOJ1, As sistant Public Works Director
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Memb'ers' Absent:
" Mike, Kenton, . EnVironmental Planner
" Donald Alexander,' Citizen' ,
, Albert Rogors, Citizen
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Others Present:
, G.eorge C. Haddox :.,
'Sandy"Lloveras
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The meeting was called to order at 10:00 A. M. in the Mayor's
ConIerencl~ Room, City Hall, by Chairman Betty Haeseker.
Copies of the ininutes of the Resource De velopment Conunittee
meetings of December 8 and December 17 were distributed at this time..
The minutes will be submitted for approval at the ,meeting of January 12, 1979.
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Prelin:inary Site Plan Review - Proposed Apartment Building Located Between
Gulf View Boulevard and Coronado Drive.
The question was raised by the Committee as to whether the required
~',land for open-space use is available. Mr. Haddox felt he was in excess of the
, ,'8,0,80 square feet required.
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Zonin~ Enforcement Officer: No conunents.
Parks &c Recreation Director: No comments.
Fire Ma.rshall: No comments.
Land Resources Specialist: No comments.
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Assistant Traffic En$tineer: Would prefer to see the 1 ZO-foot drive
from. one pa.rking lot to the other widened. Mr. Haddox noted that the drive
was more than adequate"for one-way traffic and it had been approved by
Keith Crawford, Traffic Engineer. However, he agreed to expand it to
24 feet. '
Utilities Director: Expressed concern with fixed dumpster location.
Mr. Haddox will contact Sanitation Superintendent John Selover {or his advice
as to the location.
Plannin~ Director: Requested further clarification on open-space
land. After clarification was given by Mr. Haddox, no cormnents.
Ream. Wilson moved for approval of the preliminary site plan. It
was seconded and carried ~animously.
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'Review of the C. t. S. and Prellminary Site Plan - The Harbour Condominium
Complex Located on Sand Kev East of Gulf Boulevard, Just North of City
, Limits of Belleair Beach.
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, ' Community Impact Statement:
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Zoning Enforcement Officer: Passed without conunent. Planning
Director will cover in his conunents.
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Parks &r Recreation Director: No comments.
Fire Ma.rsh~: No cotnlnenta.
, Land Resources Specialist: No comments.
Assistant Traffic EnR;ineer: Private street would have easement;
informed representatives tha.t the City would not provide a stop sign on
private property. Mr~ Lloveras recognized this fact.
Utilities Director: No cornments~
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Assistant Public Works Director Cecil Henderson joined the meeting
at this point.
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Assistant Public Works Director: Stated concerns regarding current
and proposed ownership or private etreet and utility easements; also the
possibility of the City eventually being required 'to maintain them should
proposed land sales be completed. He could not support the C. I. S. for
that reason. Mr. Lloveras will bring the committee a solution to this
problem, or 6S an alternative, legal docwnents obviating the need for concern.
Mr. Henderson expressed further concern with the sanitary sewer.
The City does not agree that the present arrangement is a good one. He
suggested it could be improved by going direcUy into the existing sanitary
sewer line. The developer is willing to comply with that solution.
Mr. Henderson moved that the C.I. S. be continued. The motion
was seconded and carried unanimously.
Site Plan:
Zoning Enforcement Officer: Mentioned a problem with set backs
which the Planning Director will address.
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Parks &: Recreation Director: No comments.
Fire Marshal: Reported there are no accesses for fire prevention.
There is no way the Fire Department can set a. piece of equipment in the
. development and make effective rescues as the equipment cannot be
: 'positioned close enough. There are no fire lanes on the lot. He requested
the developer get with the firefighting forces to'make the necessary changes
, in the site plan. It is unacceptable as submitted.
, ~and Resources Specialist: There are some landscaping problemsl
specifically along State Road 699 a.nd along Harbourage Court. He suggested
the developer a.nd John Richter of the Planning Department iron out the
problems.
Assistant Public' Works Directqr: Expressed concern about ingress
and egress in Harbourage Court. The plan appears to have met all other
enginee~ng requirements~ .
.Assistant Traffic Engineer: Agreed with Mr. Henderson that it would
be better if drives were located across from each other. He stated there
were no real problems, however. He requested a copy of the plan for parldng
underneath the building. The developer indicated a copy of this plan had been
forwal'ded to the City but apparently was never received. Another copy will
be provided.
Utilities Director: Expressed concern over the
is in the easement, the, developer cannot build over it.
it must be the proper distance from the building.
8" water main; if it
He also indicated
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The Utilities Director indicated concern with the garbage pickup
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location and asked the developer to contact John Selover for advice.
PlanninR: Director: Stated that the developer is short oC the
required set ba.cks on each of the lot lines. The plan shows 30 feet, but
should be 33 feet. The Planning Department has allowed the developer
to treat the deflign as two narrow parcels to assist in set back requirements.
Even that intersects the structural part of the wall. The developer stated
that the wing wall begins at 8 feet and does not violate the set back. According
to the 'Zoning Enforcement Officer, wing walls are acceptable if they are not
c~nstructed closer than six feet from ground level.
Mr. Healey expressed more concern about the set back from the
street which has not been met in the northernmost building. He stated
that he felt he could support treatment as two narrow, separate parcels
as stated earlier providing the street meets certain guideUnes for
public streets.
Mr. Healey questioned an area, admittedly outside his scope of
expertise, concerning whether the swirmning pool met the Coastal Construe..
tion Code. He asked that it be cleared through the Marine Advisory Board.
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Mr. Healey advised that part of the sidewalk is on the property.
Mr. Henderson advised a sidewalk easement would be sufficient correction
as far as the engineers 'are concerned.
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The deyeloper' requested postponement of the item.
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Mr. Henderson moved the item be postponed until the next meeting.
The motion wa.s seconded a.nd carried unanimously.
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The Utilities Director mentioned to the developer that gas is
available in this area and arra.ngements should be made for its use. He
advised that the Utilities Department doesn't normally aet a gas meter
just for a awi.m.Ini.ng pool since it would only be used on an average of
two months of the year; This was mentioned with respect to a previous
statement by the developer in which he indica.ted he would make his own
arrangemen~s ~or utilities.
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With respect to the same subject, the Fire Marshal advised the
developer not to place LP gas lines underneath the buildings if it was
bis intention to use this r..'leans of proViding heat.
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Mr. Lloveras and Mr. Wfrlte left the meeting at this time.
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Mr. Healey asked that the Building Department provide an estimate
'of the costs for reviewing Community lInpact Statements as was requested '
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about four 'months ago.
, Mr. Healey advised that there is,a need to set polley with rospect
to private streets. This'item wiUbe on the next agenda lor the meeting
,of January, 12, '1979, for discussion.
, The' meeti~g adjourned at 11 :00 A. M.
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