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12/08/1978 (2) ;'1.', ' ,.1' '~\,: <: " ... . :' rl , /. ;':' : .. ;\> - ., ~: . .. Minutes RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE 1/ ( t ~. . , City of Clearwater, Florida December 8, 1978 ....,.../ " j ... r \ { ~: " . Members Present: .' . Michael J.Paroby, Assistant City Manager David P. Healey, Director, Planning Department ~ Acting Chairman ., Michael W. Kenton, Environmental Planner. Planning Department '.Syd Snair, Zoning Enforcement Officer, Building Department Don Merrians, Assistant Director, Traffi~ Engineering Department ReamW~lson, Director, Parks & Recreation Department Paul Rettig, Director, Utilities Department Cecil Henderson, Assistant Director, Public Works Department George L. Buhmeyer, Fire Marshal, Fire Department Michael Campbell, Land Resources Specialist, Planning Department ',. " . c. .1 .' 'Members Absent: .:t., ., , ....., " ',' " 'r"'..".. .. ~~.1 " , ,',' ,... Elizabeth Haeseker, Administrative Assistant, City Manager, Chairperson Donald~. Alexander, Citizen Albert P. Rogers, Citizen 't".t' I: ~ ' ", .,.' ~ \." . j~.~ ~ ' \',"., , " j", <.. " ""'.'.,' Others Present: Max G. Battle, Director,' Public Works Department Grace Loyd, Zoning Analyst, Planning Department John Rooks, Engineering. Public Works Department 'Mr. H. Groth, Chairman,. Planning & Zoning Board " Mr.. Kerwin, Countryside, U.S. Home .Mr.Bosworth, Countryside, U.S. Home Mr; Bob Thorton, Countryside, U.S. Home , Mr.' Neil Ackenhead, Architect, Countryside, U.S. Home . " Mr. Don McFarlin, Attorney, Clearwater Beach Apartments '. Mr. . George Haddox, Architect, Clearwater Beach Apartments " ", ,\": i., : I.... ,." .' 11,1.'., .'.' ':~" '. .. , .. .~ " . ". , ,. r.~~.,.;~ '. .:' :',1" ' .'. P, " {(~::.,...., . . ,I,' ~:'~~. : ~'I '. . . ~ , . ~:. '.,' , .t,.I<. . . .~:. " .' In the absence of the Chairperson. the meeting was called to order by the Planning Director at 10:10 a.m.. in the Mayor's ,Co~ference Room, City Hall. Minutes from previous meeting were not presented. ,;".' .-' ~l!:.:' ~~>~.;.?"".' ~{<;'..'~ 'i',.. ':; " " ",:1. - 1 - . .',t~c ., / I :'. 1'" . I '" "J' ':.' ' .'. ::". ,:' ~::',"Ii:' . ; .... , . . ~ 1) . . . "!,,,"~/)f(::f;)'ici'i:j;,';?t;r~::} ;(, "':'.' " ,.,." , ;', '.. :.." '''''. j. ,:::...J.:..,. "...,',,:!! ,..(':.';' ". "\'., :"':'('fi,::,';/,:::ii.',<:?\" ' '.""" " . . ..... ~-""--' ". '; > . 'J~: :;'.';'::;;:t," '::1. , l '~ \ "." '. f , I,'" .f '. ,:,\1 . ".' , , ij . "H , . ~: ,:~. ..' l \' ~ ' ,;;....:.. { ..:,..." ~ . _.' ; .' 'J,. !. ,'. "'< . ~ -',\1 ' " . :1,' , . " ,.... ~ ",. ': ',: ~ , I .~ . "" l !'.' ':~:',..~~"J" .'"J ,.. ~ I J ~ '. ,. ': f....~ .~ . . ';)'~\j'>, . ".' , ~ . ~ i; '" .' . " ,.' ~" '. ~,,:' ( '~'._~'J': \. :"1' i. . . ~ t..~" 'n, .::~ I. '. I ,';;-' '.\", . . ,.';: ",.~.'.;::;,,:;~/;;"; '. :i.'.::.; ~ '. ,i.'/;.:::," :<: ,:"," .' ., . , . '. <,:" 'J .,. \.. .\ .,. , I !.... .f, , .; /. .1,.. .:. ," \ \l: . :'1...: ... "f, , ,. I :"~ . '!.;. ::i i' .,11 '. l!'~ . I. ;.. :~"l,,~':-i' '/:,~ . ..'{ ., 't' " :'}" " " '," ':, . . . / ;'/'.:'.' I. ",'. '.' · .:~':::<' ~::j,::;:: .j.' '::. ". , "~~.I- /". ;'.'.:' ,';. ',:....:, .", . '.' ,. -, '.' .1 r \ . , " ....... '1 .' ,. ..,,;,.'. ....;.:1.::,.1....:..'.'..,)>.;:>....1: ..,..' '.:::..:,'.;i<~,~::::.'::.:.:.:/., ." .,' .. J " . I I . . ..,. ...... ..',., ..........,,::f.:,"~~;.::}.:.: ..... '.. < .:~ I . I"~ ., ,i, /', '-t ~':" ,:'/. ", , ","r. ,i.. '" ,'. '" I. ) ..,' t: . ~ . ."-' The following items were discussed: " At the ROC meeting of November 11, 1978, representatives of U.S. Home indicated their intention to amend the original request for a waiver of the CIS, which included all of Tract 21 (25.38 Acres), to cover only Phase I (14.397 Acres) of the project. At that time the request was continued to give the developer time to amend the rezoning application. The Request For Waiver is based upon the application for rezoning (amended to cover Phase I only) from RM-24 to RM-12. Mr. Boswell and Mr. Kerwin, U.S. Home representatives, presented a Preliminary Site Plan indicating the proposed Phase 1 and Phase II Division. They stated the site plan as presented was in the very early stages of planning and was at this time conceptual only. Mr. Wilson questioned the status of the road adjacent to the north property line, which affords entry to the City Park and to the development. Mr. Henderson indicated the right-of-way for the above street would have to be dedicated to the City. Discussion ensued regarding the developers and/or City's responsibility for construction of this roadway. Utilities, Traffic, Building and Fire Departments had no comment until further information available. Mr. Healey expressed concern that the dividing line between Phase I and Phase II would become an artificial barrier in the Site Plan and thus preclude optimum site plan treatment of the total tract. . . I ,..." .. q ','" Motion was made by Mr. Henderson, seconded. by Mr. Kenton, to recommend the City ,Manager approve the request for a waiver of the CIS on Phase I. Motion carried unanimously. - located east of xecut1ve Go Course continued. I.': " Bob Thornton of u.s. Home stated in the revised Site Plan they had tried to address all the problems noted at an earlier meeting. Mr. Meerians said that the Traffic Department had worked . with the developer and had only one further problem i.e., the radius on the north access road was insufficient. ",4", , - 2 '.\ .' :t' . _jl',,~.::c.'.<~c,'""':,:':';i c " .....~I. i, . 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',< ',':,\J .:: : ' ,c. . ~ , . . ~.' ,.,.,.'\ ,. .: r. . {.. " . , c,'j {'....c'c, . , , .' r ' '. '. , t... I,. ~ ~I ~ . J ,J ~ ';-" " , Mr. Henderson and Marshal Buhmeyer discussed the size of the water mains. An 8" loop with no cross ties is required. In the future all sites of three stories or over RM-20 zoning will require 8" water mains. Mr. Battle told the Committee his depart- ment was preparing a manual regarding sizes of water mains required. It was noted by Mr. Henderson that the roof drains should be funneled onto the grass swales instead of onto the paved area as indicated on the plan. Mr. Rettig stated the 21t PVC pipe with a set of three water meters would be acceptable providing the City has easements up to the meters. Mr. Kenton suggested the developer shift buildings 20. 21 and 22 to the south in order to save more trees. Mr. Campbell agreed to work with u.s. Home representatives regarding shifting of the three buildings to save as many trees as possible and thereby prevent the development of problems 'at the tree permit removal stage. Mr. Syd Snair suggested moving the storage areas from the side of the carports to the front to prevent view interference for drivers using the carports. A clarification of setbacks required by the Zoning Code from private streets was also discussed. Mr. Healey stated he had no problem with the setbacks as shown on a private driveway but questioned when a private driveway. due tq its length or configuation, becomes in effect a private collector road. Mr. Henderson agreed this was a valid concern that should be resolved but felt it should not be permitted to delay this site plan. Motion was made by Mr. Kenton, seconded by Mr. Henderson to approve the Preliminary Site Plen for Tract 36, U.S. Home, subject to (1) moving the storage areas to the front of the carports; (2) moving the central complex (Building 20, 21 and 22) to the south for purposes of tree conservation. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Healey said when the conditions had been met the Site Plan would go forward to the City Manager's Office for presentation to the City Commission. Northwood Apartments' - Portion of Tract "n" Northwood Estates Rutenber~ Corporation - located north of Eastland Boulevard . between Landmark Drive ana McMulfen~Bootli Road - Review or C.I.S. and Preliminary Site Plan. The developer requested continuance for more time to work out environmental problems. The motion to continue was made, seconded and approved. ',. ~,.. ". .~ " 3 ;, i. ~. . .." > . \ ,. ~ - .' .." " ':. . . ~ ',' .:. "," . ," '" " ,:. .':'~,..,., " :."-~-'" '.'.' 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The property is presently zoned RM-28. Mr. Henderson stated the sewage would flow to the Marshall Street Plant. The drainage and retention areas, must be designed by a registered engineer and should be designed with the criteria regarding a 25 year storm retention not 10 year as indicated. The C.l.S. was acceptable to Traffic Engineering but the following problems were noted on the Site Plan: 1. A 3-foot clearance in conjunction with a 19-foot parking stall. 2. Parking stalls on south end of parking area require a protective island. 3. Radius on Gulf View entrance should be increased to 12 feet. 4. Parking stall under building with sight-interference should be eliminated. ,: 5. Back-out stalls c~uld create problem. Mr. Haddox assured Mr. Meerians they were eliminating the parking stalls under the roof and had.l.eliminated the overlapping of the 3-foot clearance in a revised plan. Mr. Rettig indicated the dumpster location as shown was not acceptable and the final location would have to be approved by the Sanitation Department. It was also noted a by-pass meter would be required. The Fire Marshal has no problems with the C.I.S. but one additional fire hydrant would be required. Mr. Wilson, Mr. Snair and Mr. Campbell had no comments. Mr. Kenton stated it appeared the requirements of the 2S-year storm water retention could be handled in the swale as shown and, if this was correct, he had no problems. Mr. Healey questioned the need for seventeen extra parking spaces and the lack of required open space. Mr. McFarland stated according to his interpretation of the City Zoning Code the deck and swimming pool area could be counted as open space. He also said the extra seventeen parking spaces might be I'needed for future public dining room. " :'.1,. .' - 4 - t~;: : . ' ." I. ~.. . ': \ '.1 . '," I. 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" , The Committee suggested the question of what constituted "Usable Open Space" be referred to the City Attorney. Motion was made by Mr. Kenton, seconded by Mr. Rettig to recommend approval of the C.I.S. The review of the Preliminary Site Plan was continued pending the solution of problems mentioned above and a determination by the City Attorney regarding the open space requirement. Jennifer Office Complex - located on the east side of U.S. 19 north between Sunset Point Road and S.R. 580. Mr. Paroby referred to an ad hoc meeting held on D~cember 6, 1978, and presented a letter from Mr. Goldner, the developer, stating his understanding of the recommendations reached at that meeting. Mr. Paroby distributed a copy of a letter to Mr. Goldner drafted as a response and requested the Committee's recommendation. Mike Kenton made.the motion to approve the recommendation as stated in the letter with the addition .of a paragraph regarding' the annex~tiQn requirement of 10 percent parkland dedication or , money' in lieu thereof.. The meeting was adjouned at 12:10 p.m. t. >, , .\ ,'. ,.' '. J ~ .' ,-!....,....' .' f,fi'Y ,,\," 'i. I'. :t;.::.. . I. -" ". ., '" ., 1','I"C .." l .i:: ,\ '. ~;':', ' il/ :: ;l~~: ;","' t!:;~.':' :~,:: :..' . ':;";",:1' .:.t. If:~':; ~,~ .":.'. '. " . r ~0r::';:, "~":':'" ',.J, .,',.: - 5 - . J 1_. , . , " .:.> .'. <, ':' l..~ , '..:.ij '. . l,'" , ~ '..~'.~ I" ., ':' ~. ,',' . .', I,' , I ., ':"',:,:: " , ' ,,' : . . \:';"~~"\;'Jf';',~> :{'):~~!"~;~))"i:i)\';,: ..; .,x";:, ..... " .<: :':i.", .." .,',)' , ~ . ~ "1'1.. ' ,t,' I, ~ c .. "'", ~ " . ." ,: ~. ':l.'.. ~ ,~ ;:=:.~ . "~' ,.' , /i,.. <, j, ~ .! ~. ',' . \.. 1,"'.'< " ;, '\',. . ~ '\,.. . ~ I . '1. <.:\....;, . . ~I ~ I.',. . ':)/ . . , ">1 ., ,I. , <...1.,.'.;" I ,'.' 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