12/03/1963
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',rHE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
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Minutes of the McetinR~ Tue~day, Decemb~r 3, 1963.
Tho rn(!r~ting was nalled to order at 3: 00 P.. M.. by the Vice-
Chairman, M~. Reade. .PreG~nt ~ere Members Mylander. Harries,
Williams, Galloway and Gates, Mr.. Rettig of the Engineering Dept., and
Mr.. Wolle.. '!'he Chait"'man was absent because of illness.
The minutes of th~;) mee:ting of Novembel~ 12, 1963, were approved
as submitted in written summation to each member. .
CHRISTI-IAS PARTY ARRANGEMENTS - It was decidr:!d that the Board's
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annual Christmas pal:"'ty would be held Tuesday, December 17, 1963,
and determination wa3 made of guests to be.invited~ Mr. Galloway
agreed to find out if he could arrange for this luncheon at the Car-
louel Club and advise Mr. Reade.
REPORT PROSPECTIVE MEMBER - Mr. Reade reported on a communica-
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tion from Chairman 1<r'use advising that Mr. H. H. Carlisle, Sr.., was
under consideration by the Commission. It ;.ras learned tI~at Hr;' Kruse
had been authorized to contact Mr.. Carlisle, t>1ho had expressed his
(--) willingness' to serve. Members were favorable to thi.s prospective
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nominee.
SARASOTA FPZA CONFERENCE ATTENDANCE 'W Hr'. \%lle reported that
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he planned to attend the sessions to be held Thursday.; Friday, and
Saturday (Dee.. 5th i:hl'ough 7th). He advined .that program details were
available in t:he Plcmning Office and offe!'ed assis'tance in making
reservations for any member's who might b~ able to attend.
ZONING ORDI!lANCE .\HENDHENT STUDIES - Vi<:e-Ch':JiY'man Reade made in-
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quiry as to deedlint:; 011 ordinance am(mdme.nts that require formal
BCclI"d action. 11t'~ \'loLl~ e1~pressed the opinion that with the City
elections being held in Ff~bl"'uary ~ 1.t Has In~obable that the next zoning
public hearing '4ould .Cl1yt b(~ set before the middle of February or in
Ma'l:'ch. He reported t~1crt no zoning change l"'equests had been received
I~~""; as yet. Mr~ Reade e1:a:ced that it would nppear.- then that the Board
will not be required to act formally on these amendments under study
. u.nti 1 after' the fi.rst C)f lJarllJary.
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SERVICE STATION LOCATION - Mr. Wolle prosented as two questions
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(~ to be decided:
1. \fuether such control be in the Zoning Ordinance?
2. And, whethf:'!l" a restriction would b,l:~ distance between
stations?
MI". Galloway eXpr6fH:it~d the opinion that this Jmoposal is going .to be
contl"oversial and 'that the Town House miltte)"l should be given priori"ty.
Mr. Galloway reVieWlf!d the Planner'.s preJ~iminC1r)r draft of proposal
which limited service station sites i.n accordance to 750 ft. distance
from existing sta'ti ems and 500 ft. di.stance from public buildings. or
pUblic areas of assembly; such sites to be ilpproved by the City Com...
mission. The pI~oposed legis lation would establish defijd -tion, mini-
mum lot size, and, t-lhen abutting a residential zone, fence re-
strictions..
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Hr. Galloway commented thai: he and Hr. 11ylander had ag'Peed that
exception should be made f()!' stations at intersections. Mr. Mylander
'added that the question of definition of a junction had arisen in Com-
mi ttee discussion, also that th'e Commi.ttec' R thinking was that exist-
ing stations l~hould not be prohibited fl"cm Y'ebuilding or modernizing.
Members generally discussed the proposal and various suggestions were
offened for changes or additions_ Mr. Gates questioned what the de-
finition of an int8r8ect~on is going to be. He felt that perhaps ex-
ception should only be mild,~ for stations at maj or intersections. Hr.
Williams made refe:"'mce to gorne communi i-i~~s (he thought Coral Gables
was one) which have I'I~3t1.'i.::tio'ns in number b,3.sed on popult!tion figur'es.
Mr. Reade sugges.ted con8idc?1"ation might bE~ ;;.1.\len to restrictions in
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regard to population ilnd some restrictioli3 as to location or distance
apart.. !,he X.!u.~~..3l~:.~_~~~q u~s:~~~~~_!._th~:_,J:~~~":!:!1~~~.1~.~...s..~~_
of the Coral Gables ordinance for Board reference. Upon inquiry by
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Mr. Roade, the Plannct' :i nd3.cated he had oth€.' r' SOllrCf.~ material avai la-
ble. Mr. Wolle dh;pl.;W~~d an area map wh5.ch d(~lil'lr~Qt4:1d exis ting sar-
~ice station loc~tions. After some furtllor inconclusive discussion,
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PARl<'''AY BUSII1f:SS (-::on'i:inued from 11/26/1\3) ., 1'ha 'Plannel" informed
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the Board that th(~ :i.nte.nt of this propmHHi ~;oninp. classification was
to ~ie it into development of US Hwy. 19q Its Rpplication, he stated,
should be coordinated Wi~l n p~oposed County P~rkway Commercial zoning.
Mernbe ~S a .s.E!l",~_ !S:"..El}~l~pgD!:._~S.2!l::.! q~ ~l.!!i2!:._~f ~_~;,!~L~_.E.1.::S'.E~2.1_'!!1J:11.~ .
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MYRTLE AVE. .- The P12l1ll1er advised thtti: he had di v.i.ded the Myrtle
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.o.ve" . study int.o .sf:gr:len'ts ,HI follows:
(a) Lakeview to Chestnut
(b) Chestnui: to Dl'et"
(e) Drew ~o Palmetto
(d) NOt'th of Palliletto
He stated that r.H!::fOl'~~ .j:h~ next Board meeting he would like to have mem-
bers individually be V1"1!."Y familiar with Lmd tUjf1S from Lakevie,,, to
Chestnut as a fiT'~,;1; s"':ucy l. '~his he cilllE.d Hi'~n ...'l!.'ea "chat you can save").
Mt~. Reade requcs t8d th i'~1: Jr,(Hr:bel"s fami lii:lr':j.ZI'~ th(;!;Jt~=>~]. ves vIi th existing
uses in all ~(!gment8 ,:;md l"'~~commended thl.t ~m (;f"fclr"c :.,C made to con-
elude this mot-tel" .:[t tlH:.' n~~x:t meeting. ~,rl'. C,itr:~~~ :l.nqui'('ed as to the
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pOSSl. 1. l.tyo~ n3.\'lnr-; COP:L'~~i 0, S rl.p rr;t:',~) G~ .,~~.:,.,: I':' .ve., as
prep.ired
by the Planner ~ 1-(~fJr'cdlJ(:2d ;!.nd mailed to /{1nljlt~(~"~:1. Nv. Holle explained
that copi~~a of this ][:-:1[> T~':1:.('h takl;! much t:' In\~(('l .,'lllK'3 ~H-n:"e not llcces-
sary if the' Qj~:it~~:.n.:l} <';1~1'.;. ~tvailable in 1jk c..~'i.;j.~,: to study prior 'to
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field inspection) :Hld also \\.vai lable fc~' '.1!W D.:,' ,~':_~EJ.:23lP... in the field.
This seemed agreeable to the Board!
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t.OCATION SOUTHWI::ST <~~)H.Nl~R l~Etn'lOOD ^VE" t l>H.1:\~ ~;/r.) ... Hr. Reade, Chairman
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~ of the St\bco1l1.iTd,tb)~ 0',1 S\~bdivisiolla. I'epo':'::ed thl\t t'ne Commi tte(',1 had
vigited the sit~ i.me\ ilft€:::~ discussion ht1.d Hl~ldr; not;~tion of the follow-
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1. No rl{)Orr. f()l" {.>cH'k.tng (Ke'nwood J'igltt-.of-wny is only 40 ft.)
2.' uiffi eul t n i tuation in garbag\~ enllnct.\cm
.3. Setbacks questionable
Mr. Reade fUl"'thet" reo61."'t,sd that the Subdiv:i:::\ion C01tlnlittee recommendp.cJ
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Mr. Rettig expJ.ained offstreat parkinE! HCCsGS ,~nd arrangement
agreed to by 'tlH!: Ci 1:y BngiJl(~er .and the C1 ty Hanagcr" ~h"'. Wolle re-
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poX'ted 'thu t they plci.11 toO hnve undergl"'ound ga1."l>i!l.p,(;~ ttecep'tacle.s in fl"'ont.
,However>, to inr.nu:;e futuro? future adeq\.l.:rt~ porbage pi.~knp he had dis-
cusse'd \"ith the City EngilHH1I' the need for. f.i. S f1:.' utili.ty easement
in which a side'vlalk tVould be constructed along tiLl~' "m~;t and south. sides
of the lot., }1'l.". Battle rJgl1cedthat thh: rlcuJ.d hilrequired before the
final plat was rdcnvdad alld completion of' the 632 subdivision contract.
It was. again not~'!d tha i: flJ:'opettty fronted If 0 ft. p.i ght-of-way and that
individual llni.ts o<)lJ1d be on two floor~3 tJ:;~th appl"r):d.ma'tely 1000 sq.
ft. ,of floor' spac~. Aft:el'; i3 lengthy dil'1Cll.18i,OH~ HI", Reade asked for
a moti on. Whfn"c upon .i,:~.,~..)!,j} JJ~__rn.~.~ ~1 ~1..:!;),,{;.1:..~i;ll,!L~1,nl1..;lLyJfi.i~nL~
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TOWN HOUSE PROP~SALG -
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Vice Chni t'iYl:li\ \\N\dc l'\f.!'C),uentGd of tho
PtimnCl." in rormat:i on .l~) i~r.~ ~I;;hilt he in Pl"';','pl.,~:i op be donl'!~ nbout limitations
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o,~ upccificF.\tionl:l or, 'h,wn Hr)\ISt;:;! S;'i.tfW. Th~ Planm,n:'t projected by
o?aque rnachine the Ie l:lO.r'7':,nf~ tlt3mcd p1"r'Ih:rU;ll:::, (0 f r'lhich copies at'c
on record with ,the offic~ ngunda file):
"Procedural. Rf)'lu:i.J:'t;Hl1(:nt~1 foI' TOWll 1l('\Ul:H~ Developments tl
"Town Houne Stl"\lCtU!"f:~ (dcve1opmcn'i:B) a.l~ Planned Unit Developments"
'I'he Planner di,scUSI~r.'d prlo\' i sions of thenn Pl"'oposals. in soma detai,l;
Ivi also explaine(l thi.rt i.t Hat:; anti.cipttt(~d that a'.' proposed zoning.
amendment itlQuld inr.!lllde ,:L{idi tionel 1:"6qU:1.J:'(~m~mts as werc: previously
discussed and sent fC)'!'Hattd to the City :1.cmagel" concerning the request
for Town HO\lse.. use of thr!: Cal''tr ptloperty,
Vice Chairman Reade re-
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