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07/25/1961 ~ , ;~ ZONING AJ:0 PLANU ING BOAltD Minutes of the ~eeting, Tuesday, July 25, 1961. The ,meeting was called. to order ah 3 :00 Po I.1~ by the Chair-mEm, i4r. Kruse. Present were l.{embe.l"s Rende, Ge.tQs, Kennedy and Galloway', l'W, Hat tie; of' the il1ngineering DepaJ,"'tment, l~. James It... Ste\'lart J' C1l;,y J.4'anager, and loJl.r.. \/0110.- The minutes of the .July 18, 1961, meeting were approved as read(l M,DBILE H01:Pt,PARK USE .. 1~11" (BUSINZ3S1 ZONE - I.YNltACRSS. - Q~~eral Location: 9!1. north, side ,of Gp.;\[-to...J3ay Blv~~nsc, qi'JLS, , i!J.2 - Dis cussion or. i-fr.. Lynd' s proposals was continued from the July 18 mee'c1ng. ill.'ro \lolla reported that he had talked "lith !.Jr" Lynd again and obtained th~ information that it was his iutent at some time to ask for annexation and that he had prepared his plan to, sho\'1 'total improvement of the pa l"k (cj, ty and county area) to be on sanitary sewer.. LoW. Holle clarified JAru Lyndt s request as being at this time only to expand his present trailer park use to in- clude six spaces in his business frontage and sewer facilities for the six spaces.. l'W" Lynd \':as quoted as stating that he knew that if he ''1anted se\(er service for trailers in the rear of his proper- ty that it '~'/ould. have to be annexed to the City. .clesson given, for not reque sting annexation oi' the Oounty portion at this time was the expense it \llOuld'involve.. i.1r" lleade reported th;t t the Subdivision, COIl1Jnila.ee inspncted the propert~' on Saturday morning; that all the existing t.r~'lilor8 are 011 septic tank; and that the Committee could see no ob,jection to allowing h:i.m to pt1t trail{:)rs in the bu..9ines3 zone ~ '0.!:~r Ga~. made a m._otioEu~o' r~~!'~[1~, e'p'pr-oval~ of lib:'. .-kyud ~.121."!illP!l,!3q.J1ob,:~1!2 Home Park uE!~~ .of his bus ~nes~ fron~~~_?'Lccordi1?-$Jo P~'lp' N.'2.~ , ,;...;,.) h'lhicil J.}!~icates tl1E:r~. ...Iill 9~ n,o~ ,trDil:er spE:-ce c~~ o~F t.~((n 170 ,ft "" from ~~enter line ot Gug-to-B,s,y Bl~.) ~~_Ji~~ mot..ion was "-') ~ _.~ ~_cond~d by i~~,,_ Reade _and .."La's ~as~~,d~~im2..'d~:qx" Tho Bourd, hOl-'''' " , '~ Z &. P lJiinut.es July;?:; 1 1 <)b.L l'llgB ,12 ever) ,\'las of 'the opinion that 1.t "tould bo in t.he bout intoreot of the City to armex tho exi3t tog trailor park ax;ea proson 1;1y loca.ted in the Count~r, so that the on t;j.re trailer pa:d~ would bo \'Ii thin the city limits" 5LONSTA~TIN3 J::AilMS f]O..t lE1LCIA~_. :pARK - (J : 20 p" 1.1~) !/lrR Joseph Constantine was present by invitation to discU8S details of intent in regard t'o annexation and devalopOlent of proposed 'coJllmercial park .plan'rev~e~~d by the Board on July 11 and, July 18. Chairmrol Kruse explained that after consi.derntion oi' the plan at the last mea ting , t~he Board "dshed t.o have i>ir.. Constantine and, the City l'~anager meet ,.Ii th it before plaking any decision as to ,recommendations. He ad- vised that the Board had discussed the p'ossibility that the entire area, might be annexed' at the,present time rather than just the one pOl'tion.. He pointed out that the proposal "las for more or less of'a controlled area (insofar as design is concerned) and suggested it \llould be helpful i.f Mr. Constantine l\'Ould inform the Board as to \'/hat the o\'mers have 'in mine. a.'r\ to priorj.ties or. anticipated , , i future development ~ ",j' Mro Constantine presented additional information concerning " plans for the above pal'k. It \'/aa disclosed tha,t: 1.. The plan submitted 5.s a tGl1tB,tive one. 'rhe si:ze, of blocks may be 5ubjHct to change in order to meet 1'0- :,....J qu:trements of pI C\Bpect~i V'S future tenant. s or buyr~r's, ~nd area mriy be redesignedu ,,', 2 Co '!ht: int')l'1t 1s to annt':x Duly' the pro ppsed portion al~ this time. 'fhe o\'mers do not, consider it econoolically :l\~asi-. blo to hold tlw 50 a eros :In one o'{,nership ..3.nd feel tha't tho cost of developing it~ all '\>lOuld bE' prohibitive. 1.'h0 It ~; &. P L.i.inutl,,~~ J 'l I' 'l\4 " l. n. y 2:> ~ .... b. Pa,ge 113 '.J~ .;:~ ~. ,.." " ",:, '-j . ,,, ~ . , , , ..._"l " speed of' development. WllY bo fast, or it. could be n long tLne proposition. 'fhoy urc not oppoood to bringing it all into the city, and will ult:l.mately; but. are opposed ,to annexation of the entire tract at this time because of the burden of increased taxation~ .:.. 0 '!'he 'pr'operty is centrally located and several research- ers have picked this general locat ion as desirable [01. potential commercial 3:1. tee. 4" He feels that the ratio of' parking to square footage in tHe plan is not adequate for full development, but the possibility has been considered that someo! t.he, space that won't be developed could be used for offstreet park- ing and that adjoining properties may be available for offstreet parki.ng use ~ ,,, An option for purchase 01' a 125\ x 200t parcel has just been given to a group ~no are attemptil~ to form a bank~ In response to ~~u Reade's inqUiry as to whether he would ex- pect the City to accept dedication of streets ...dth the 1.601 right- of-way, lilt" Constantine replied that he would rather not dedicate that much 1;'0 the City, that. he 'ltlOuld rather dedicate 60 ftu' He stated he, ,had not given'much though t to kee p:lng stree ts in the park as private.. He added: lilt might be smart to do that., particul;arly ii' \':e don t t sell off lots It " ,"'~ ". \: , " ~, . . .'/,:. I", ~:X ?::.; ~;. !: ~', " ,<,I, I:'" :,' ::~ j,: \ '. :~. ;/:.;' " ' " . ~ .0+. ')':.. .' . , " . ". ", ", . ~ . E . , '" 1\> .. :' ~: ~c I,.:.:; 1: .. :.~...~: .\ r "\ :. .:~~ ~ ~.':,:,,: .~:')~i -!<,' " . ;r:f 1-1r.. Head€! advised tha to the Board had expro s3ed considorabll3 reluctance to recommend dadicatiQn of.." 1601 street if the City rf~ ,.".. , ,~< . ~: .. .' ; . ~ , , , :~;t;, ~.\:.. f' . .n, \'Iould have to maintain it. He added: "\ie ~'IOLlld be providing /'." ~ ""\ ..~ parking lot.stlD l.Iru Kruse: IJHe have had some rather" bad situations develoo -..-- -q ... .1'.. ~~.~:(: 'f' 1 .~\~:,~ ~~ .- " "~ ". . . where part ai' property is in the City and part ill tho County.. , " t. ." ' '. ,~. '" ': ":,.,. ':,:': . ,;, . '. : , '.i " '... .,,: It ~, , ';':' ; : . I, : -:: . :: :",. :.", ~" :."~: ~ .:.', ':.' . ': '..'~~. " :',...:':.': .~. ~, . ," ,j ,.' 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ConstantinA men tioned understanding \'Ii th bank group holding option that they 'I'dll hold 'propert,y as one parcel and not sell off' lots1 wi th agree... ment that lots will be used for parking, and if not needed for that, ,'dll be repurc~ased by seller" He assured the Board of the o....mars' cooperation in making this a high-type development that would be a credit to Clearwater, and of their desire .to do everythin,,~ possible to buildup the value of the property~ He advised that they will pave the stre3t to serve the a1ll1exed property but that it \'1111 be a private streeto There was a discussion of the right-of-way for Belcher Road~ Chairman Kruse called attention to recommendation in the 14R-l High- way Plan for 100 fto right-oi'-''''i'ay for Belcher.. i.Ir. Gates mentioned the anticipated extension of BelcheI' Road to the GleaI'\'later In- dustrial Parko The Board expressed agreement that the right...of-\'lay ought to be 100 ftn L~'v Cons~antine stated that the ~xisting op~ tion only gl8,ve considerat ion to 3. 33 t J"ight-oi'-WlY dedication for Belcher Road but off'aI';d t~o .::all to the' buy'er.' 5 attention not to build too close tc pra\I'ent. fut\1X'e. l'ight-of'-lIaY acquisition" l,lr.. Kruse: uIn the CitJY's interest~, and as far as this Boa.rd ~ - is concerned, is t.here any 'flay at the [H'6tlGnlj time lihat this tract could be developed acccrding to n pl.:Hl thCt,t coul.d be set down and accepted by th~~ l;it~y amI all af it annexed?ft uVle realize we will have no cont,I'ol over zoning if it re- mains in the Gounty.n ': ::~.':'.".. ,'. ." .;I\.\,l,:......:.'.:.,/~;. .'../ " :.~" .:.' ,': \ }'. .,,':.. ~,:..,..:::.,1!.1.~::..:1...1... :.:, ;-".:~' .'.~. :',:;,':':".:"~".;:::. \ .:..~~.......:::::..:~.~..:.:.,.r.~..\~~..~:.:' :.:. ',.:.. I : '.>:~'~::' ...+...,..:.:...:.....,'. ..,::..:.:,\I.,;:....~.: '::...........:.:~,: ",:'" l. t'Jj P iti.nu~eu ,July ;.~ y 196J. Page 115 .'-"" " l !.fr" Con[jta}Jt:iA~J.. lrAs long' as '\'10 have o\lmership of it I we could request annexation at any tj.me.. I cOl1ld give you Cl gontleman. s agreoment that we 'N'ould annex before ~'le sell/) II ~.ir.. Voll!3~: nPlanning ~'fise t I would, pre.fer a commercial subdi- vision as h'e would know t.he \-thole tract (even plu.tted in block .form) 90 that there "li11 be sOlne public right-of'~.\'lay and some pr1vat;e right-of-way. II : ,',r,\ , , I .' '.......r 'I t~h"T..",.1\.r4~t: II\/e are asked to zone a piece of property H Busi- ness" north of Gulf-to-BaYq... the City in annexing undeveloped property has an overall plan to consider., If In ol~der to clal"iry' ant:tcipated uses, l'lr. Constantine and the City lJtanager furnished the Board :'-n confidence details o.f a pending o~ter to a' prospective buyer on another portion of the property 0 , t,lro Kennedy suggested that a ne\-l plan be submit ted showing only the area of the present annexation requesto The City Planner inquired i.f existing options contained ref- erence. to an east-\'les~ right-or-way through the propert~~.. 1.1r.. , " " Constantine replied that the 160 .ft... st.l"e F,;) Ii us shnwn on the com- mercj.aJ. park plan concerns this provision.- Applicant vms informed tha.t the Boardt s recommendation would be in the hands of the Commission 1~or ,their next regula.r meeting", i-1rG Constantine was thanl\ed. for h is at tendanc e and le f't the :.'.. mee ting at ll': 10 P (0 1.1.. Afte r so me fur tho r di sellS S icm ~ !:lr. Read,c ~. mQv ed" ~l'@ t the ?oaEs!. '\ ' .recom:n;.:md to the Gouuniss~.2!L ~(proval of t89..qest f.Q.t_Lnp.:.~EJ.?P of a portion of a commercial park for Cons tantlne Ii'arms ~ located north , " " "'~ , . .J , '''erP . of the city limit line at the northwest corner o.f Belcher Road and Gulf-to-Bay Blvd; that it be zoned for "Business" and desig~. _.i>---'1---oO!L r ,~ .... _ ]7 141'11 r____ :1 . .qpced to be included in Fire !)ist~ict !{~; .al~ ~~t thr~~~~ r..oco~end that a 5S~. ..f~..:..EJ11 t-of-\o'.'at, l~G dedi ~t(~d fox:.J~~:~~. ;c! '~ .~ . :, ' . ~......~~ " >~ /' Z & P ~inutaa July 25, 1961 Page '~f6 half of, Boloher' l\O~.? ( frolll ~Gul_f=~?_-:FAl)!,~. .i3J.vd.. T to t.~~le n9.rth, bouml~..l. ,C?f the !lro~rt..Yl ~ and that a co.~itml!!!.~. b~eT .~~de q~:-,the elPPll-s.,un t ~o Rrov:ide R!l. east..wes,t rigl!t-of-Way from J3...f!lche,:l~-1J.Q1!.d. throA~h, .t,he. M~~e ar,~~._.~9 be ~nr~,e~eq.!. th i6 to be not la 53 than 60 f't. a nd not~ greater than 80 .ft.. wide, so as to permit public access to parcols that may be sold or developed directly or indiJ'ectly by the appli~ cant b 1i~s~ qIot.ion was seconded Jrr l.~r" Kemled:L,~n.st waf.' p~6~~d \ll!a!l.i.- m. QR.;;;h,y .. ' Tho City' !.1anagor excused himself from the meeting at 4:)0 P () M. because of another appoint.nentG CHA~R.l~~ t S ~~.ill - Pr~J2ar~iqn~ror. ~oning,lkfeFendurn Ghair- mrol Kruse reported th~tt as he underdtood it, the referend~m on the zoning bill~ would probably be scheduled in September.. ,Plans were discussed for a campa:i.gn of publicity prior to the referen- dum data.. p;LJ\t.n.~~t;3, r:r3l'1S . J.:lr~ Holle read letter dated ,July 13, 1961y from dr.. Ed\iard R. Lar' 'no l ,nollas Count'. ~ngine?r, concerning, his revie"~ of' the matter of the extension ,evievr Hoad as d. through street east to U.. S~ 19a dr.. HolJ i?,epox'ted he had visited l.ll'.. ,La1npp in l"o'1r'.:lrd to, a County rezoning u;plicution i'or Trace B) Smith's Bay Vie\'1,nnd discussed \d.th him. the pO::'lsibili1~y of' a right-oi',~way tor the extension of Bay Shore Blvd. along 'fampa Bay' to connect v:ith the proposed Lakeviel'l extension. (iieference is made to Zoning and Planning Mi.nutes of June 6/61.) 1'1l' 0 Lampp "vIas informed during this . visit tha1j thase stree t axtensions had been discuss ed 'vi th ,L'Jr" Clirford~ the previous County gn,giucwr. Cha irman Kruse sug[;est,ed tha t in view of the interest expl'esned by t.[r., Lampp, he be tnvited to meet with the Boord, at. some future dat,e, '. ,~":' .';.:..:., \'.:~>':;..'; :..,...., ::', ..,'.'\~ :....: .>~'... "..'1.::. '::"" :.,.::....:.:~~:.:.':,.I..,....:..:.' ~~.....~,:> .....~~ "': ;......- ...:.~.. ;.';.'. ...~,.. :.'.".:..,;. ":~~.:","';I ;..::..:.:'.':::.' :.11; :,'.....::.~;:.:'::,:;:::.. :..;:t,::: ,'.:*'.:.'.,:',:':". '~~.:".' ",,<,... ',.:;,:....:.;-.,...,' ',~::" ,: ~..' t': ;l " I, :' ~ ' J' I',' i ":,' ,~ >,'.. -J L 'f' ~.<: ' ...1 }, ,:. l " .J " , ~ . . d. .1. " ' " ',' .'). , .......,. I," . ~~ L ,"' Z i.c P l.linutos July 25!J 1961 P ago 1/7 ~~~ Oli1 "HOUSING_9..Q.Qli - The City Planner explained that thG st#undards set~ by the. code are retroactive (that is, apply to aD. existin2; d"lellinga, as 'vell as' now and conversion const.ructlon) nnd tha.t t;hese standards cover: health and safety, maintenance, and occupancy., He d:J.scu~sed some definitions as giv<3na i'lro Gallm-rc:ty inquired as to pO\ierS of the Health Department re$arding sanitary facili ties and vias informed by l.lr.. \lolla 'f;hat tha Health Department liould have power to condemn in SQ.ile instances. lJ1ro Gallo\"IaY was also" informed that this Housing Ordinance would be separate from the Compr.tahensive Plan, that it l'Iould be supplementa.ry and. would not be included :tI1 a public hearing on the Coroprehensi va PIano . ' The coda was then ~eviewed from Pages 1 through Section 8 ending on Page 9~ The Board agreed upon various dele~ions, addi~ion5, anu ~evis1ons (to be recorded in theCity Planner's master copy)~ C~airman Kl~Be expres~ed doubt whether you can legally requil~ that a house be supplied with electricity (Sec.. 3 A.> Page 4) and J'~. rlettig ~uestioned requirement under Sec~ 2 F, Page 4. X~.. Galloway sug.~ested that J..Ir" 1-1ylander might be requested to rule on legality of these re quiremonts ~ Agenda Items 4 B, C" and "f.. \-tare !l ot covered due to lack of timao The meeting was adjourned at 5:00 Po M~ R.espectfully submi tted;' .~.~ ~U . Art ur g- ruse;~ifC'Gt~~c'Y Chairman 1 I