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10/31/1957 - Joint Meeting .f' " :' . ;., \, ~. : . ". <. " ~,' , ' :,:'0 ~ . I ' I;.' ~ ., !11~utes ',of .mectinr-; 'fh\U'sd.f!.!. .oct.ober .JJ;.~ 1957. :i;.n PlunninK.-lJ..2E:.rd (H:fice Joint meeting of the Dity Commission and Planning cloard.. Those present were ~.~ayor Homer, Commissioners '.iatkins and Hoberta. City !Jlanager 'fallent, Oity Attorney !{rentzman ~ Clt.y Engineer Lickton, Paul Rettig of the Engineering Department, Planning 30ard menlbers Kruse~ Reade, Levison, Harries, Driver, Galloway, City Planner ',lolle, Joe Devlin of the Clearwater Sun, Chuck Albury of the St.. Petersburg TimeD, and Howard Hartley of ~:"r AN to The meeting opened at 2: 00 P ..1.10 and i.!I'u ileade oriented the Conunission members on the inquiry and discussion 01.' off-street parking leading to the preparation of the' suggested ordinance amendmentd After eJctensi va dis CUSSiOIl JJ1r. Tallent summed up the matter with the following three points: 10. Of.f-street parking recp.irements cannot be ret.roactive.. T""I ~I 20 For property owners with proposed building plans, there'would have to be an escape clause \d th an lteffective\T deadline date 0. 3& Congestod areas are becoming more congested and provisions for off-street parking should be made today instead of tomorrow. The matter of decreasing the a~ount of building space per lot, by requiring. off-street parkingt vtas di.scussed; it Nas sugge3ted that redesign would probabl~T be the anS\'ler to .this d !!lr.. Krentzman read from the City Charter that th e City could only hold one referendum per fiscal year" He st.u.ted that it would be possible to hold the 1958-59 rof"erenduill earl)r in th(:!' fiscal year :Lf it \'laB desirable ~ Mayor Homer .<Juggested that copie3 of. the suggest.ad ordinance amendment j re qui.ring offw.streij,t park:l,ng) be given to 1~hc d:if.ferent c :i.vie organizations . .~) for study and then hold D.. public forum and see lLm'l the public feels about the suggested orcU.na.nce amendment being included in 'Gh~ dGccrnbor re.feremhllTL 'I ,', ,'. . ,/:,):';';::'f:::',:.::,:/:;:'::;'/:' '< /:,:,: .:>'i":';/.. ../ "...,. . ., .. . ;:. :. .' .. .... .. . ,'. ... .. ..' . ... ~ . . ,':;"':3:;::}"~"';'~>'}':'i'::""~"':':"'::"'",'~,,'::>::,,:~'::~,:~~:-':';l::,~:.';~,",":' .. . .... . . .. .. . ':;'::,' .,.,,:~';.;;'I',:',,~',: ."'",:,,,.'j,::,(; :~.{:L ':;',',",1,:.':, ,:,' ,'. ,."..',:';.: ',.:",,:~ :'..",'~~',,'.: :," :_,:~ ::,.:,;,.'.,."".,,;', ,..,:,':_,,: ,"':,~ "'. '::",' .:',: ',~_, ':,' ,',':' ....: : ,,'~,~.' ,,',.:,"",:,'..:',';':.': ',:': ~:,,:.:,"':'." ,'~' "" ':.' ..,:;.;' ~';;~T,:.?/?;;:;./~).:~:.: i::;:;;.'F;~~':,:;'/".~:':.;.'.:.;:;:< : " .:.:.....' : " . .. ".':. .. . .. --- 1,\ "~, .:", '" ,". ',', ,'" ;; ~:, -,. ... :', .y.::' . .. '.,.,: < ix: ... ..,.,' . '.. '. .' ..' ..;:";:::.:'i:r<}!:/:.;.. ::'.:' > ::..' 'I r' .;. .) J~.I,,' -,. . : ,. . ,.,' /..'.:.,',.':;' . '.. , , . ~. ~ '~~.' ,,:,"~, . . '.'. .... ';;......, ',. ,': ,. ,~:,I.'..::::"':'''::'i''' ' ,",.",: , '. '. " ",'. .'. ",. ; \ ,r- :.:~ '. ~~: ~ ~.' . ~ ., ", i. , , ", I', . " ' ~ . ~. c . ~', ~:~' ,::.0, t' , " .' , 'r~' ' '':;."', " , '......, :". r ~' " , l,i,' , ~: ., . . . '.' ',' .' "i"-~ " ; , '....", " , . ; :\"~', ,. October 31, 1957 Pago 2 It l'IGS agreed th.-:l t 'this meeting t"lould be held in t,he U:lty Hall Aud~.toriumt November 12th'at8:00 1>.1.1. l-1r.. ~Jolle agreed t,Q preparo a letter of tral1mnit.tal together ''lith a map and description of the aI's'as to be exempt.. l\1fr.. Krentzman read a memo he had written, to the i-layor and Gi1.iY Commissioners giving his opinion as to \~hethcr appeals from the J3uilding Inspector as to hardships under the Zoning, 1..1.~'1 can be finally considered by the Zoning Board as presently constituted~ After discussion, Commission members present, agreed to dra\dng up an amendment. creating a Board of Adjustment and Appeal. 'rhus the Planning Board would become the Planning and Zoning Goard and the Zoning Board would become strictly an Appeal Doard.. However the final decision on appeal cases would remain with the City Commission~ Next, Mr. \'Jo11e presented ,to the lJommission the prelimina.ry "Plan for PlanningU \dth a lettier of explanation. There was 110 formal action t~ten but general approval was indicated~ 'fhere was uo .further business and th e : '.oet/ing ,adjourned at 5: no P ..i.I.. R~spectfully submitted ..... C) II} r,," '/C). CL c..K: ,., ~ V< 0 '..'C.€,-_ (~ck I u \:'o11e ~ Secretary {City Planner) ~l; ) "j ,', 'i ,<'" ~ .~..:~,l~~~:: I. "I"~ ' '.;' . " , , : I, ,~, ' , , ,', , ",'" .,'>;, '.' '. ,~,,:,,: I' .' ',-:', 'I ;....; . ..' ".,..... , , '..."'..., ,~.~ '. . ~ : .,' -.'. '.' '.' " ~,,' :' I . , ~", ". c :.. :', '~ . I . ; '.~.::/:,