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Purnuant t;o a oElci::d""n rGflC.:hod at n lOeet:i.nr:.: of represent.nttves of '
Upper Pinoll[\s County HUlli.ci.pali ties, Pinelln G Gount~r and the State Hend
Depnrtment held i.n the Cloarwater Planninr: BOGrd Ofricn, July 11) 1957,
a -third meet:i.m~ "1,'3.8 held August 8) 1957 at t.he offlce of 'the Cleal"1tTa.ter
Planning Board 'at \oIhich the follo,,"ring \'1ere i.n a'ttcndance:
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Lo 0.. Hoster
Clear\.:ater
County Engineer
State Road Dept
p~ 0" Box 591
Frederick Lo Bell
and Associates, Engin0e~a
Frederick Lc Bell
and Associates, Engineers
Asst.o Engineer of Traffic
Planning, State Road Depta
Planning Board, Chairman
Planning Board
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're I.;. Bates
Bartow
Frederick Lo Bell
Tallahassee
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Wayne To King
'rallahassee
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Ed\'tard Mueller
Tallahassee
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Arthur Kruse '
Ralph Reade
Charles Galloway,
Bo J.. Driver
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Clearwater
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Planl'd.ng' BO:trd
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Planning Board
Planning Board
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Har{,ld Adair
Palm Harbor
H" Ee> Rucker
Delleair
Conmdssioner
HoD... Pm'fell
Largo
C of C Hd" Comm"
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Duned:i.n
Dunedin Civic Ass'n
George B~ Samuel
Dunedin
Planning and Zoning
Hal r'!cPherson
John Bates
Old:..:;rlEl r
Conmliss:toner'
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Chuck Al bl.1r)r
Indian Hocks
DunBtlin
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No af.fil1.tl'tLon
Clearwater
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'l'hG meet:b\~~ opened at 2: 15 P 01-1... with County :l;:''1ei.rscGr fI()ot.oJ1
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presidi.ng"
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rfhe minutes of the July 11, 1957 meeting '\'rC!1"e reacl and ap,rovcd, as
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r'~r" Bell ~ave his rrop.:ress ~e:)or.to lIe reportiod tha.'t he h;:IS collected
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much data" He has a.ccumula tad data concernir',,: telephone connectiolls 1
bui.lding pernlit.s~ NateI' uses, and other data 'to indi.c.'3.te quant:i.t.y, direction,
tyne of grol\rtl1 ill each place ~ }lTI'l> Boll pOi1'1terl out tha t it Vias a tremendous
problem 'to try 'GO determine ",'hat will ha.ppen to the Count:.}' i.n the ne;;;x
tWGnty years~ Roads will be designed and built to last for twenty years
, and therefore i.t is neC\:~sBary to forec"lst as accurately as possible where
and to ~mat extent 'county development would take placea NrQ Bell stated
that it could grO\\T to 1/'?. million population in the next tell 3'eal'So
Mrfl Bell also as}.:ed for the 'help of th e municipali.ties r"epresented &
He "mulct like to ha va any conf'j.dentinl infor'mut.:i.on ,on any prospective
industry that: 171iRht come 1.nto this flrea eit,hel' in the inquiry' or the
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planned stagec For each employee that an industry attr[l,cts t.o a
communi ty, five more peo~lc tl rG added"
It lias decided that. the next. meeting of tllis group will be
Sep.t:iember 1?~ 1957 i.n the Clearwater P1Fmn:i,ng Board Offiee at 2:00 P"Mo
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~'~r\l Hester left the mectinr; at t hi,s ti me [;l,nd i<h"J T J I" Bates t.ook
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hj.ghvmys (> He said t.hat he f::Jl t t.he.t; W\,H! nf~ed ~'\, \.:. le~l st, 0\10 11\0)'G North fHld
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August. 8) 1957
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main purposes 01' thj_s survey was to det;e1"m:tne \<Jhat tyne :md ",there t.hese
h1.p,;h""ays should be bu:Llt.. Hr II B011 expli;'llned also that. t,he re::oer.rch
or tfg'atherin~ data" sta!'I"eof thin sUJ.:'vay \.,a8 a]moDt completeo Ho told
of the immerse \rolunlC of cl:1trl tha t, ha s been collected n r:ow 'Gha dnta
must be analyzed a.nd' tEl bula ted on Iill! machines ~
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He thanked the communities for' cooperatinr; vrith them and sl1Pr>l~ring
them "lith available 111formationo Mi'. :Mueller and Mr.. Bates asked that
the communities represented supply the State Road Board itlith information
on local" plal1s for ",idening rights-or-way, arterial streets that are '
pla.nned and other local prOf';rf:\Tr.S and projects suc:h as Clearwater's 11m 1
and DUlledj.n ~ s Oaussuay" In.formation is wanted on all factors tha t "lill
influence traffic yolume and dj.rection Q rrhe State Road Board \'1111 consider
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'all sllch elements in makin~ its decisions"
Mr., Wood~,,'ard of Dunedin ,asked the que~l't.i0l1, flShOllldn't the
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representatives f'rom Dunedinj Cleal'\'latar, etc" get together to discuss
the I'out.e and possibility of a North-3outh hj.r:.1n.'[Ijr'?U !'ilr" Bell stated that
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th:.;:'t there was more data t.o be collocted on this subject and he did not
. bel1.eve F1 meeting of this type should be held yet 0
pir" Bat es st nted t~ha t t.he State HOC:Jd De~)a:(.tment will ma,k:c decisj_ons
on roud routes to servc~ the greatest. number of people sfter cons:LclerinE
all the datao A discussion T/las held regt.\'t'ding t.t1\:: alrec.tly Qst.nblinhed
truc.k routes or t.he possibilities of such l'ont 0::;"
Mr I) Rucker said' tJ'Fl t, Bellea:i.r does no t~ want. :r."o,c.ds 1)1JJ.lt, 'I~hx'ctlgh It
that ,..,i11 attract heavy traffic 0 HI;) s t,nt(~cl t,}v~t; (; hept? i~ no prospeet of
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expanstor 'nor' a plilcG for :,,~uch eXprUlS:LOl1 ~'1l1:1 'clw i; lH.:dJ.Q:l:! r tloJ.~~~ no'~ \r/ant
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Augunt 81 1957
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Mr. K:t.ng of the li1rede:L"'lck Lo Bell andAss()c1.nt~eG eave a, resume of
",hat has.,boGn accompl1.shed thus 'faro ' He (-~:r..plained he hnd ob1irlined :the
" number of \1atel' meter connect,ions, telephone and li'lor1.da PotIer connectlons,
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population gro\'rths, valuations t and build1.nF.?; p ermi ts over a period of years a
',-He stj.ll need s ,tho information of th is type from Larr.;o, Be11ea:lr J and
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Mrll Powell raised the '1uesti.on of theadvj.sabilit~r or att.empting to
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plan and ~ke connnittments for t.'neaty years and the possible eff'cet a
depression would have on such a ,prop,ram and on the people liTho 'W:;'uld havo
to pay for it"
Mrco Mueller and Nro Bell explained in reply that 'the program would
be planned so as to be consunlmated by stages as neededa
The Bell report 'will be f'actual.. It ,dll be based on accumula'ted
, data and will be ''1eighed by local plal1s, and it 'Hill present. cunclusions
and ma.ke recommendn t.ions 0)
As there w'as no further busi11e.SS t.he meeting \\tas adjoU'C'ned at 3:45 p 11]110
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August u~ 1957
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Mr. K;t.ngo.f the Fl"oderi ck 1" Boll and Assoc:lates gave a' rosume of
"The -t hn s beon' al'Jcomplirlhodt h118 far Q He expla.:lTled he hod ohtui ned th e '
number of ''1a'l.~Gr mel~er' connections, telephone und I"lor'lda P01;er connect:tona.
populat.ion grow't,hs" valuatj.ons', and bt'd.ldi,ng permits over. a period of yearso
He st.:tl1 need$ 1~he informat.ion of this t;rpo from Lareo ~ J3a1..1eai.r, arid
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Mro Powell raj.sed the lluestiol1 of the advisahilit~r or atitempting to
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'plfll1 and lTake committmentci for t~flEj'nty years and,the pos13ible effect a
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depression ''lould have on such a. prop,ram and on the people who would have
. -to pay i'or '~t.
Mro> Mueller and Mr,lJ Bell explained in reply that the program would
, be p+anned so as to be copsummatedby .stages as neededl>
The Bell report ,'rill be fac'tual'... It ,~'"il1 be based ml accumulated
data and \lli11 be \'Teighed by local plans,. and it ,,,,ill present conclusions'
arid make recommendations~
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AS there ,was no i'u!'th(jr business the meeting WE.! S ad,j otH'ned at.3: 45 P oMe
Respectfu.lly submitted,
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Rolph W~ B~ Readef Secretary
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!1inutes of J.Ieeyti,n8,. 'l'hy,rS9Sl-Y, ~.!!..a:ust ,8,. 125~/, iu,,:!the. Plmrnitlb 9,oJlrd_OfficoM
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'rhe members of the Planning Board present, "~Gre Kruse) Driver, Norton,
Reade and Galloway~
The minutes of the August 1, 1957 meeting \'!sre approved"
Chairman Kruse welcomed Mr~ Ross Rorton back after a long illness.
We are glad that Mro, Norton is with us QRain and bettero
Chairman Kruse told the Board that a letter was on its way to
Mro Wolle offerin~ him ~he position of City Plannero This letter was sent
by the City Managero
Chairman Kruse explained the City C9mmission's action on the trailer
park application of Hilleboe and UpdykeD
Ohairman Kruse advi.aed the Board that he \:til1 be a\'TaY until perhaps
October 1. He advis ed the Bonrd also tha t he would li.ke to have the
meetings continued while he is a''lay due to the' number of items "that need
to be di.scussedCl
As there \'las no further business, the meeting adjourned at 4: 15 P ol-lo
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'rhe members of the Pla!1ning Board present were l~ruse, Driver, Norton,
Reade and Galloway~
Th~ minutes of t.he August 1, 1957 meeting \':ere approved n
Chairman Kruse welcomed r.iro Ross Norton back after tl long illnes50
"!e are &f,lad tha t ~1ro, ~~orton is with us a~ain and bet'tero
Chairman Kruse told the Board that a letter was on its way to
Mro Wolle offering him the position of City Plannero This letter was 8en~
by the City Managero
Chairman Kruse explamned the City Commission's action on the trailer
park a9plication of Hilleboe and Updykeo
, Chairman Kruse advised the Board that he v1ill be a'VlaY until perhaps
October 10 He advis ed the BORro also tha t he \'1Ould like to have the
meetings continued while he is away due to the number of items thR t need
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As there was no fUrther business, the meeting adjourned at 4:15 P~Mo
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