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'/~.i+ ' b :0,:~~':;~'\ . ~~::':;:d/;-:r~:\H~.;t1~ ,. :r.~~.(r);..~'f ~';.: l:-r~~.:,~;.i\~:;~~ t.~~;~~~t..{ Fri~:~~'l ".\>,'~ ,"~' ~!:'; ~.J'Y, tf";~Ji ~l,i;{-l,?,-;~: ::. ~.f "-.:.r..:;.~~~,'",.-l~:Y; ,;~~l'1 .!':..~r.i!.~,~,i.r ,.., ~, ;it~.:'~,; ,1l'~..!......'.~I;-~ ~t.""'''r.\~~ l' ' ~,J~\,t(~yf'.f..iH'...t:'-.-I.U 'r--L1";')( '...,J~: . ."'."': ~I".I" i.l(.;..~...,t."t'~,.. , ~~,,~: CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL WORK SESSION :~:~~~,~~f[~{11tt~~~~ 1,~ 'I~~:;~~\~r~c: ~' ~::;:;~"';:~r2,'1-:nr\~t~-~\, !l::t0".~':.\:\'~~ June 12, 1990 ,:'~;,y:i-.,~),.~:.:~~\~)'t....;~ ~ln.1kfrt~I::'..?:. ,'. :.~~",.:.t r~ 'o,\i.:IJ-''1'1'f? 4A~.J~~ ~1r;?i:~~t7;t&~ : '~.~';\::~~~i~~~/~::f~f:;J~~;~~~"; ;t;.~,)i~~,{,., ',', 'f^i"") ""h.;.~~,f2:i., ~r;J:!:\"~'~ ';':';":':I~~~~~~/ 1)t~I~~~f:1{':I:: lJi'iir{if.:,~:., The City Corrmission of the City of Clearwater met at City Hall, Tuesday, June;;':;;\':~\t.:\)~:r.~:g:!&?~:.'&~ ~4'&.~~~~: 12, 1990, at 10:05 A.M., with the following members present::::,:';':',:f"ft\:V5~~~tytit-j fIo:<",",';{,lr".., : "":".,'>~r ", ";l/lFfk~ ..':,<).:=~j~~~'c~ :);. ~',~'~".:, ~i.rt~'1:~~~:..~".J},~.:J} Y:i!~~;1h~~::';1;' Rita Garvey Mayor /Connni ss i oner:,~\~vb::~~:j'V~~rf~(;;I~ ~~~:t;i(l Richard Fitzgerald Vice-Mayor/Conunissioner /\i~;:~~>:~\~~~;~~,i.N1 .t"f'f'^';' Lee Regu 1 sk i Conuni ss i oner '"'''(''''''rJ'':''<;\'~~'~~'i,:~''' 'd,' ~~~ 1 ~:~f ~~~:m.ker ~~:1 ~~ 1 ~~:~ ':;ti1~t~;tf~:~ . \.t..... .~. .r..~'-\.~" :'t.~~'f~ .~.'~..}~~~~~~C~'~~I~~~ ;,f ~;?~l : cL~.I,i,\~,."1Jj~..\\~r;.,H..;.i-i@..l "'< ~< :'~ :"".~jt;'i"'Y '}io!'" :.;.' 1';:' ~i:~;':"::~\;~ ~'.;~'~A'::~';{J/L~ ,'"'-,'1 ,', ;\';<t~~~r;":-,1I,::";-J~~;"'," .., 1""/"'" ""'("11""~~~' ~'. ;(<S":~~ ;'{~~:~~~.I.~/~~.;l~~ .~ ,,' ": ".A;! c~~;''';h;'';'Jr; ~:~\.::::...:'J; ~~ A;i:(. ;!~~\1~.;...6;J~'; ,,'r'~,'''''''''.V ,0 ".~ '1."...~1; :.,l,~.?~. ~;,;rt;;~.y~~:.~ r{1f:f:i~, ......'1 :i<~~t!1~~~!~d' "~~~{!r... ::~~~l!~~~;;:;; ~: .....,,~)..'~,~11,~t~~;~:~~~1t"'.~ : ..:.:{,:~:~,~ 'jT.~:~:" \(I,\~1', o\-~'\ '/;l."<;:.:'It, ..,~: ,(.J~~"44r~~\.:'\" ir.~~.1~%~ ~.. co' 'l"'~T'''<f' ~ff~ ,.,I:!~"ijo-", ~~~~~k~",:;~" '" ~5~ {:~i~:.{'~J.~l; ~'~:"i \f,'~i?;.RV ~ 1~.:.~(",-..J,1~lt~~ 'i."~"}~"io)';r,'P-5 . \ :~~:"~~\ t:> ~ ~, .....'f.jrit ~)~m:\j)r f ~~~~.}1~'~~iJ ~!,:!:,:Ic~\,;"..;'t t thi, :~~('l'lc.~t : .'l)r:,...;'j~.t!.l!;, Also present were: Ron H. Rabun Michael Wright M. A. Galbraith, Jr. Cynthia E. Goudeau City Manager Assistant City Manager City Attorney City Clerk The Mayor called the meeting to order and the following item was discuss: Proposed Ordinance No. 5004-90 reaardina Flood Reaulations. o This ordinance is being proposed in response to the Federal Emergency Management Agencies (FEMA) concerns regarding the City of Clearwater's flood regulations. The City Manager stated that the City Commission is seeking public input regarding the FEMA Regulation and how the City's Ordinance mesh with those. He stated this has been a long process. There are four (4) sets of regulations regarding building and flood sensitive areas: FEMA Regulations, State law, Pinellas County law, and City code. These agencies sometimes conflict and we have to change our ordinances in order to address all the regulations. FEMA had expressed dissatisfaction with the City's flood regulation ordinance and also in the enforcement of same. Michael Wright, Assistant City Manager and M. A. Galbraith, Jr., City Attorney, went to Atlanta to meet with FEMA staff to determine what the City needed to do in order to be in compliance with their regulations. The C'lty Manager stated Ordinance 5004-90 is a result of that meeting. The second reading for this ordinance will be scheduled for the City Commission Meeting of June 21, 1990. He stated the regulations in the ordinance are to protect construction and enhance safety of individuals in flood areas and to keep intact the Federal Flood Insurance Program. Michael Wright, Assistant City Manager, stated FEMA officials visited the City of Clearwater in March 1990, and reviewed records and field inspected buildings in flood prone areas. A letter was sent to the City of Clearwater listing deficiencies found. He stated he felt the City was able to satisfy many of FEMA1s concerns. @" -" F Special Work Session 1 6/12/00 . _ ~ .Ii' '.;r ; .' ~.." '. 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" , J'" , l 'I' .. ,\-;.~,. )"1\~' (.1 ~. . .." '.. l.~ " il'.r~"'" .:>\~. ~'<~'-.'~~rf"'~""\1~"';.l :;~>'~~:{:,~~?\~:if~~;~'),~:,~i?Y\~ ~:;':): ';.,:\,L >:::;,~'::'; :'. <' "':.'~ ','.;'..-, -: ',\ ' , . ',., ,,','. " \ . ' 0, " ',',', ." ",\ ! :"'<<.: ..'",-',: ~,: ~,>~, ;~.-,:<~{)~i~~:~141i~ ---:'\l~~ .~'~~tl' ,', ,~. ,\.1 _~,. 1J' .... .... "...J '~',' .-./\,~,,!~~ \1;" : '~~ ' ' , . . .....J'. d .' He stated particular concern regarding the City's ordinance was the calculation of substantial improvement. FEMA regulations provide that you cannot add more than 50% of the value of a house over a certain time and in certain circumstances. State law limits that value to over the life of the structure on barrier islands. This would cover Clearwater Beach and Sand Key but not ';~:hJ.:~,.~)J",t!""-t,..~<\.... '- ~('~ I 1 d E H t d th d d' t' th i' t d d >..,'.> ."~~'-'r,~".l..'"",~"",~ ~I:j?;';~1",I(.>:';.j':;';",,'~,;'~:)'<', S an states. e sta e e propose or lnance con alns e m mmum s an ar s " '.,.';:,..'.::..',':'l,:'),..i'~': .~'T"I,.t"""..h~~....p..TO(~\..,.J.,'. h M '11 t ' ,..., 'I"~co.,,t.~.f.'<' ~J;f~~f,~:f~1~~~ff~.~'~~~'~:f'i.:(~~ t at FE A Wl accep. ' . .;. ;':;_}:~~:~':.;'v.:~'~~~.::t;\~::1: >I",.,.,,;'it.-t I;!.' ,~k ."". " " ".','-" ,.,' '... "d", ~Y~:~'~'{l.i:)\i'l~.:~~~~.:"<:>~!:,""':.':::. ~ .',-,: f,~ :.:~,:<)i/~[.J~r,~::;~~> ."j;i~i'~\;'1~'::'~~;'(~:',l:-;: !~': A concern was expressed that the Ci ty IS ori gina 1 ordi nance was in response ;',; .~,,':~<'/',r';,": \'";,~, fit~l~y~\~1M{:t~ ~!fm~ ~ r:o CJ:le;~:eis;~~; :~:Uf~~A F~:u l~~di o~~n~er~' a/\h~~S c~~~~;a~~~m i ~ i~ "';\:'0~);M}i~!~ The City Manager indicated during the meeting with FEMA in 1988 there was !: .~. ,H, ,v,~~ " ,'.'h' discussion regarding substantial improvements. The City felt it had gotten I '" " ",,' ',,,,',,,' ,..,,< guidance from FEMA that such things as wallpaper, paint, etc did not have to be counted in the value of the improvement. During the meeting at Atlanta, it was found that this is not the case. It was indicated that all costs associated with a permit would be counted towards the 50% cap. Discussion ensued regarding not including such things as wallpaper and paint in the cost reported on a permit thereby eliminating these being counted towards the 50% cap. It was also stated that if the repair or improvement addresses a life/safety issue it does not count towards the 50% cap. Discussion returned to how to calculate the 50% cap and whether or not it would be based on market value or appraised value. The ability to use a permit splitting process in order to reduce the cost shown on a permit was discussed. In response to questions in regard to the relationship between FEMA and the State, it was indicated that FEMA is the enforcement arm and they enforce State laws regarding flood plain regulations. Concerns were expressed that we thought we were responding to FEMA concerns previously. Frustration was expressed regarding the inability to have clearly defined FEMA regulations. This ordinance is no different from the ordinance passed in 19B7. Last year the commission had tried to alleviate some of the enforcement regarding wallpaper, etc. in calculating the value of the improvement. It was stated it is a question of interpretation and administration. It was stated that there is another part to this problem in that if the City of Clearwater had a disaster and wanted to qualify for relief, we would need FEMA approval. In order to qualify, we must be part of the Flood Insurance r:~,;.'/b~~'f.b"I~,,,,.r(r~., H, Program. It was stated at ri sk are all peoples' investments, and infrastructure ,.' ,", .',' .,' .""""., .,', i~lMf~~{jrWJf(:~iilt~}!;: etc. Federal Aid would not be avai 1ab1e if there was no commitment to the F100d~:',~~~}:,:<:(~'t.:;~,:.(t:fX;,} ~"4~1." r.~t:'f!..t~'1'(.l,.. , Insurance Program. , , "I, .'",. 0>, ,.. "."".,J l~~. ~~~-~'~:;~~~).F::~~~~(~~~i~~f~ .' ,::' : ;~~~.t~:"'>~'~.~':,:.~\~};/: I~ l....:1..<-:.t1.~. f~14-'.;t~ .,..C.J~tt. ~ >'1'/: .. d <, ~"'-:'~' .t.; ,..t. ......J~ '0.11..' '. /; ~:W~r-;1:::-),~~;S,i}t.~&~'!':';;.::; The quest i on was ra 1 se regard ing what process FEMA wou 1d fo 11 ow in order .. ; :', i~::X ;';,: ,i:'~'/:'iP;~::'\'i }i:(~;';J.~;~;~iJ~:'s~~'ti{~;. @"",.toremovetheCityofC1earwater'sF1oodInsurance. It was stated this process;"~'~\;~::}I~:,~;(g;6l~5i~~::i .,tA,.~.. ";"""~'~"'I'" ' '. ',,1 "" '-''''J.'''' .... '';:'f.:I~ ~'~"j,"'..j;''''''''';o(''' " I.. d '..~ ."B'.f~ "' 1~;\~r>"t t;i'!;;:.:L'U/'~' . ',~~~f'::' L(' /" S . 1 1.1 k S '2 6/1 / ' . 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